Official Justice League Movie - Page 43

*NinjaPug* · 11-17-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

No corporate bias here.

Nope, none at all.

I'll be seeing this tomorrow with a buddy. Still managing to avoid spoilers for the most part.

One of my older coworkers asked me out of the blue if I knew anything about the controversy with the Amazon costumes. He's not a huge comic fan or anything, so I guess discussions about this movie are leaking into people's mainstream Facebook and Twitter feeds.

What corporate bias?

*TigerClaw* · 11-17-2017, 01:10 PM

I'm gonna see it tomorrow around 11:45am EST, will be seeing it in 3D.

*myconius* · 11-17-2017, 01:15 PM

just saw it today, was actually very enjoyable.
definitely something i'd watch in the theatre again.

the pace was a LOT better than BvS.

the mid credits extra scene was really fun, and the post credits scene has me really psyched for the next one!
just hope they follow though with that idea they were hinting at!

sorry to be vague, but i'm really trying not spill any spoilers.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-17-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

just saw it today, was actually very enjoyable.
definitely something i'd watch in the theatre again.

the pace was a LOT better than BvS.

the mid credits extra scene was really fun, and the post credits scene has me really psyched for the next one!
just hope they follow though with that idea they were hinting at!

sorry to be vague, but i'm really trying not spill any spoilers.

Good to hear.

What would you say about the trailers in relation to the finished product? I've heard scenese were cut from the film that appeared in trailers, but would you say they've left enough surprises in the film?

BvS received a lot of negative feedback for spilling all the beans in the movie trailers.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-17-2017, 01:29 PM

It's kind of sad that the only time there is ever heated debates about Rottentomatoes... is when the latest DC movie drops.

WW notwithstanding.

*Spike Spiegel* · 11-17-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

What corporate bias?

These DC movies always seem to get low reviews from critics while the audience scores them considerably higher on Rotten Tomatoes.

Justice League Is a Disappointment (Rotten Tomatoes)

It Sure Feels Like Rotten Tomatoes Is Covering For 'Justice League' (Forbes)

Rotten Tomatoes finally reveals Justice League score. It's bad. (EW)

Justice League reviews rundown: Critics slam 'embarrassing' sequel (EW)

Widespread hateboners for DC while the worst Marvel movie gets something like "it's an enjoyable, lighthearted superhero romp with funny characters."

*NinjaPug* · 11-17-2017, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

These DC movies always seem to get low reviews from critics while the audience scores them considerably higher on Rotten Tomatoes.

Justice League Is a Disappointment (Rotten Tomatoes)

It Sure Feels Like Rotten Tomatoes Is Covering For 'Justice League' (Forbes)

Rotten Tomatoes finally reveals Justice League score. It's bad. (EW)

Justice League reviews rundown: Critics slam 'embarrassing' sequel (EW)

Widespread hateboners for DC while the worst Marvel movie gets something like "it's an enjoyable, lighthearted superhero romp with funny characters."

So where's the corporate bias? You pointed out that critics don't like some of the DC movies.

*Spike Spiegel* · 11-17-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

So where's the corporate bias? You pointed out that critics don't like some of the DC movies.

Perhaps I didn't use proper phrasing.

Most of these critics are writing at the behest of corporate entities like Forbes, IGN, Kotaku, etc., aren't they? It's not just a collection of people posting on LiveJournal or WordPress. And doesn't the Rotten Tomatoes score represent an aggregate of those ratings, similar to how Metacritic works for video games?

Please enlighten me if you think something I've said is wrong.

*NinjaPug* · 11-17-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Perhaps I didn't use proper phrasing.

Most of these critics are writing at the behest of corporate entities like Forbes, IGN, Kotaku, etc., aren't they? It's not just a collection of people posting on LiveJournal or WordPress.

Please enlighten me.

So you believe that these outlets like IGN are making their film critics give DC movies poor reviews to hurt their RT scores?

I just don't understand the argument that critics are out to get the DC movies. Why didn't WW get bad reviews? Why didn't the Nolan trilogy get bad reviews?

People blaming RT is even more ludicrous especially when WB is a partial owner of RT.

*myconius* · 11-17-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Good to hear.

What would you say about the trailers in relation to the finished product? I've heard scenese were cut from the film that appeared in trailers, but would you say they've left enough surprises in the film?

BvS received a lot of negative feedback for spilling all the beans in the movie trailers.

the trailers did give aways scenes that would have been nice surprises, but there were still a LOT of awesome scenes that i wasn't expecting.

plus i did notice a few scenes from trailers that were not in the movie.
i was waiting for them to happen, but they never came.

the one thing i will say is the opening was FRIKKEN AWESOME!!!!!!

Spoiler:

*sdp* · 11-17-2017, 03:20 PM

Reviewers do seem to have an anti-DC bias and pro-marvel one, no I don't think they're paid or they do it consciously but read the reviews, there always much more lenient on the flaws of Marvel and harsher with DC..

RT is an aggregate of scores, a divisive movie will be rotten 50% even if that just means that 50 percent of critics thought the movie was great.

The hipster geek culture and geek culture sites treats RT as a godly entity that dictates what they watch and/or skip

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-17-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Reviewers do seem to have an anti-DC bias and pro-marvel one, no I don't think they're paid or they do it consciously but read the reviews, there always much more lenient on the flaws of Marvel and harsher with DC..

Ya know, it sounds so conspiracy-ridden, but I'm starting to believe there may be some, possiby, unintentional truth to this. I truly love both Marvel and DC movies, that being said.

Either that, or I just have wildy different taste than most critics- Also highly likely.

I'll take Batman v Superman over Dr. Strange any day.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-17-2017, 03:45 PM

Much as I kind of dislike both companies cinematic offerings (except for three or four on Marvel's end, and Wonder Woman for the DCEU), DC at least put together more interesting failures than Marvel's routine and stale "successes"

*myconius* · 11-17-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I'll take Batman v Superman over Dr. Strange any day.

Dr. Strange has been on Netflix for a while now and i still have zero desire to watch it.

that'd be time i could have been watching Trailer Park Boys or Indianapolis Jones.

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

So you believe that these outlets like IGN are making their film critics give DC movies poor reviews to hurt their RT scores?

I just don't understand the argument that critics are out to get the DC movies. Why didn't WW get bad reviews? Why didn't the Nolan trilogy get bad reviews?

People blaming RT is even more ludicrous especially when WB is a partial owner of RT.

maybe they are just following the band wagon, because it seems to be popular among the hip-catz to slam DC movies.

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Much as I kind of dislike both companies cinematic offerings (except for three or four on Marvel's end, and Wonder Woman for the DCEU), DC at least put together more interesting failures than Marvel's routine and stale "successes"

it's really funny, but my favorite Marvel movies were actually not done by Marvel Studios. (Sam Raimi's Spider-man and Spider-man 2, Deadpool)

*TigerClaw* · 11-17-2017, 04:31 PM

Justice League made more money then Wonder Woman on Thursday, Wonder Woman was 11 million, and Justice Leage made 13 million.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justi...w-100m-a155453

*Bry* · 11-17-2017, 04:37 PM

How right you are. Critics have never given DC movies positive reviews.

*CyberCubed* · 11-17-2017, 04:53 PM

Superman Returns a 76% makes all reviews invalid.

*AT-Man* · 11-17-2017, 05:00 PM

Watchmen 64%? Never trusting that site again.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 11-17-2017, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Ya know, it sounds so conspiracy-ridden, but I'm starting to believe there may be some, possiby, unintentional truth to this. I truly love both Marvel and DC movies, that being said.

Either that, or I just have wildy different taste than most critics- Also highly likely.

I'll take Batman v Superman over Dr. Strange any day.

i finally saw a little bit of dr.strange after skipping it intheaters for just not looking that interesting.

i stopped around the 45 minute mark. rich arrogant assohole gets more arrogant after accident and i'm supposed to feel sorry for this looser? he got worse somehow!

maybe it gets better.. but this is one marvel movie i didn't have much interest in from the start.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-17-2017, 05:06 PM

I'm not saying I buy into it, but it wouldn't be very difficult for Marvel (or whoever) to pay some reviewers whose reviews they knew would end up being calculated on the Tomatometer to help tank a movie's rating.

On the flip side, plenty of PLANTS on the various DC movies' FB pages. Suicide Squad FB: "ZOMG, this is the best movie ever made! The story is better than any superhero movie that has ever or will ever be made!!!" Pop on over to their profile, oh look... 0 friends and they joined FB yesterday.

A very green new age we find ourselves in.

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myconius Abby Normal Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: the grave marked "Unknown" right beside Arch Stanton. Posts: 2,857	just saw it today, was actually very enjoyable. definitely something i'd watch in the theatre again. the pace was a LOT better than BvS. the mid credits extra scene was really fun, and the post credits scene has me really psyched for the next one! just hope they follow though with that idea they were hinting at! sorry to be vague, but i'm really trying not spill any spoilers. __________________

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	I'm not saying I buy into it, but it wouldn't be very difficult for Marvel (or whoever) to pay some reviewers whose reviews they knew would end up being calculated on the Tomatometer to help tank a movie's rating. On the flip side, plenty of PLANTS on the various DC movies' FB pages. Suicide Squad FB: "ZOMG, this is the best movie ever made! The story is better than any superhero movie that has ever or will ever be made!!!" Pop on over to their profile, oh look... 0 friends and they joined FB yesterday. A very green new age we find ourselves in. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]