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Old 02-21-2018, 01:23 PM   #1
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What do we think a Change Not Made For The Sake Of Change looks like?
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:32 PM   #2
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One more thing about Becky and the polka dots.

See, the thing about Becky is, she only likes the polka dots because most people don't. She even wears stripes and clashing colors with them, because Becky wants to stand out. She likes to be difficult, and go against the grain. she hates conformity.

For Becky, she knows polka dots are not popular, and they rub people the wrong way, and it's exactly for that reason that she wants polka dots on everything.


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When is change not for the sake of change? You've set a trap. We could argue the root of the meaning of change,
or we could agree that it's a common saying that sits alongside "if it a'int broke" etc etc.
Bad design stems from people needing to fingerprint things they work on, and we KNOW that.
We know the changes made here were specifically made to differentiate this series from the last, and set it apart on the toy shelf from 30 feet away.
The silhouettes are drastically different. It has a sloppy look and feel, and incorporates pieces of Bay turtles that wee universally disparaged.

This new series has been built by a group of Beckys.

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Old 02-21-2018, 01:35 PM   #3
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One more thing about Becky and the polka dots.

See, the thing about Becky is, she only likes the polka dots because most people don't. She even wears stripes and clashing colors with them, because Becky wants to stand out. She likes to be difficult, and go against the grain. she hates conformity.

For Becky, she knows polka dots are not popular, and they rub people the wrong way, and it's exactly for that reason that she wants polka dots on everything.
I take it back, Becky sounds awesome.
I mean, she went out of her way to share what she believes is special to her with you.

And at the end of the day, it's just clothes.

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When is change not for the sake of change? you've set a trap? Bad design stems from people needing to fingerprint things they work on, and we KNOW that.
We know the changes made here were specifically made to differentiate this series from the last, and set it apart on the toy shelf from 30 feet away.
The silhouettes are drastically different. It has a sloppy look and feel, and incorporates pieces of Bay turtles that wee universally disparaged.

This new series has been built by a group of Beckys.
I didn't set a trap.
I asked a question because I was genuinely curious about the answer.

What I find interesting is that you couldn't just diagree with Becky, you had to come back and make sure that not only were her choices bad, because they differed with yours...but that she was also a horrible person.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:43 PM   #4
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Becky sounds annoying. I'm all for being an individual and sharing with the world what makes you tick and makes you unique, but she's trying too hard. Like this damn series. (Or sounds so far.)


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Becky sounds annoying. I'm all for being an individual and sharing with the world what makes you tick and makes you unique, but she's trying too hard. Like this damn series.
Yes. exactly.

Why would Raph be the leader? No real reason, other than it's a quick way refernce this series, as a talking point.

"Hey, did you see what they did to the latest TMNT? Raph is the leader now!"
"Say what Jim? No way daddy-o? Wait wasn't Donatello the leader with the Blue bandana?"

"No dude, that was...nevermind let me show you."

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Every change was driven to provoke a response, like a troll.
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Yes. exactly.

Why would Raph be the leader? No real reason, other than it's a quick way refernce this series, as a talking point.

"Hey, did you see what they did to the latest TMNT? Raph is the leader now!"
"Say what Jim? No way daddy-o? Wait wasn't Donatello the leader with the Blue bandana?"

"No dude, that was...nevermind let me show you."

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Every change was driven to provoke a response, like a troll.
Is there an incarnation where Raph hasn't chafed under Leo's authority?
Where he wanted to be leader?

Maybe...the original toon?
Any others?
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:54 PM   #7
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Maybe...the original toon?
Raphael did outright challenge his leadership once in Turtle Trek.
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Is there an incarnation where Raph hasn't chafed under Leo's authority?
Where he wanted to be leader?

Maybe...the original toon?
Any others?
Right, or maybe, it's closer to the time that Megan Fox opined to Jimmy Kimmel that Raph was the Leader?

Like I said, it is clearly driven by toy-etic thinking, nothing more, and that's fine, but if that's what you're doing, then the look and feel are VERY important, and so far, it's been a huge misfire.
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Character development.
That's not exactly a thing this franchise has ever had an overabundance of, so I hardly expect that to start now.

And I say that with love.
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