Brie Larson the frontrunner for Captain Marvel

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

People are weird. Like all the people on Facebook or whatever making it a point to post, "I have never watched an episode of Walking Dead!" Or "I have never seen Game of Thrones!"

Who cares?

I have never seen either show either, but I've never even once thought of posting it as my FB status.

it's not like GoT doesn't seem interesting to me. I just never had the motivation to pick it up. And actually, I avoid mentioning in public I've never seen it, because some people will just be like "WTF WHY DON'T YOU WATCH GOT?! IT'S AWEEEEEESOME!" and make me feel like I need to justify myself or something.

I don't care about checking out Walking Dead at all, though, but then again I don't go around announcing it to the world either.

[Leo656]

To be fair, GoT and Walking Dead both seem kind of interesting, but I'm way too late to the party to jump into either one at this point, and as usual, the fans kind of turned me off a long time ago anyways.

They definitely don't seem bad, but they're not on my radar. I'd never waste my time going on FB and pestering people about it, though.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Leo656

To be fair, GoT and Walking Dead both seem kind of interesting, but I'm way too late to the party to jump into either one at this point, and as usual, the fans kind of turned me off a long time ago anyways.

They definitely don't seem bad, but they're not on my radar. I'd never waste my time going on FB and pestering people about it, though.

TWD seems to be about zombies, which isn't something I care much about. I dunno what's with everyone loving zombies lately. Anyway, TWD seems to also get a lot of criticism from fans, while GOT gets way less and is generally considered to be one of the all-time greatest shows ever. Plus, it's based on very highly regarded fantasy novels. So I might get on to the Song of ice & Fire books someday and check out the tv show. I don't care if I missed the boat. You can always watch or play stuff years after it comes out. it's not going anywhere.

I'm not up to date with TV and movies nowadays. Plus, a lot of tv shows have synopsis that don't seem very appealing to me. I might be being unfair, but if a show synopsis or premise doesn't interest me I'm just not gonna bother with it really. Especially since America Tv shows tend to milk the cow until it goes dry. I was once accused of being "close minded" for this, but I don't feel like siting through a bunch of 40-50 minutes episodes of a certain tv shows whose premise doesn't appeal to me at all just to see if it's good or not. I seriously don't. But sadly, some people out there seem to just check EVERYTHING out. You gotta prioritise.

I'd have no qualms on investing in a Netflix account, but in European countries Netflix doesn't have even half the content that it does in USA. To compare: US Netflix has 1157 tv shows and 4593 movies in it. Netflix Portugal has... 215 tv shows and 537 movies only.

[Leo656]

I'unno what's up with Zombies lately, either. It's funny, about 20 years ago George Carlin did a bit in his stand-up set where he was trying to disprove the existence of things like ghosts, spirits, angels, etc., by pointing out that you never see these things anymore, despite the fact that, according to scripture, they used to show up all the time. And to make the broader point he started talking about other fictional, supernatural characters, and at one point dramatically asked, "Where the F*CK are all the ZOMBIES?!" So now whenever a new piece of zombie fiction comes out, I quote him and laugh.

I actually have seen a little bit of Game of Thrones, because my wife is obsessed with it. I see a lot of people on FB talking about it, as well. From my perspective, the main audience seems to be horny housewives who are too "highbrow" to watch porn. I'm sure that's not the entire audience but it definitely seems to be the majority.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'unno what's up with Zombies lately, either. It's funny, about 20 years ago George Carlin did a bit in his stand-up set where he was trying to disprove the existence of things like ghosts, spirits, angels, etc., by pointing out that you never see these things anymore, despite the fact that, according to scripture, they used to show up all the time. And to make the broader point he started talking about other fictional, supernatural characters, and at one point dramatically asked, "Where the F*CK are all the ZOMBIES?!" So now whenever a new piece of zombie fiction comes out, I quote him and laugh.

I actually have seen a little bit of Game of Thrones, because my wife is obsessed with it. I see a lot of people on FB talking about it, as well. From my perspective, the main audience seems to be horny housewives who are too "highbrow" to watch porn. I'm sure that's not the entire audience but it definitely seems to be the majority.

Well it's like that meme of miracles being very common ages ago, but since the camera was invented... miracles became practically inexistent. But then photoshop was invented and the number of miracles skyrocketed again.

Really, housewives? I know GOT has sex and nudity, but I mostly associate its fanbase with people under 35 years old. Men in particular. I do know some girls who watch it but they're generally the type of girls who grew up watching Harry Potter, TLotR, etc.Although GOT does seem to be a bit more popular with your average non-fantasy fan than stuff like TLotR is.

I kinda view GOT as being sorta like an R-rated version of TLotR. I could be wrong, but that's my first impression of it

[Leo656]

I'm sure there's a very mixed audience but I can't speak to that. Going by FB and the people I hear talking about it at the gym, it SEEMS to mostly be watched by women, and the sex/rape scenes seem to be a huge draw. When I scroll Comments sections on articles about it, most of the people commenting are women, also (or claim to be).

I'm sure it's like the Spice Girls; there's probably a huge male audience for it but they're not the ones going around making noise about it for semi-obvious reasons. "Spartacus" was the big thing before GoT, and it was more or less the same thing: Cosplay Porn For Housewives.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's still kinda funny.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm sure there's a very mixed audience but I can't speak to that. Going by FB and the people I hear talking about it at the gym, it SEEMS to mostly be watched by women, and the sex/rape scenes seem to be a huge draw. When I scroll Comments sections on articles about it, most of the people commenting are women, also (or claim to be).

I'm sure it's like the Spice Girls; there's probably a huge male audience for it but they're not the ones going around making noise about it for semi-obvious reasons. "Spartacus" was the big thing before GoT, and it was more or less the same thing: Cosplay Porn For Housewives.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's still kinda funny.

Well that's strange. I've never seen GOT as being a thing that's mostly liked by or aimed at women and that men are hesitant to admit they like. I guess there's some "hot guys" for them on the show, but so are some hot women, I assume? You make it almost sound like it's Sex and the City or Sailor Moon

I knew it had sex scenes, but rape ones? I think that'd bother me, honestly.

[Leo656]

I think the one chick was walking around naked for most of the first season or so, but I don't remember. Again, my wife watches it, I mostly just read and glance up occasionally. Not a big TV guy anymore.

Oh, yeah, it's an extremely rapey show, but then as I understand it the books are even worse. Much of what articles I've read have been discussing about whether this or that in the show or books is "appropriate" or presented well enough given the subject matter. Like one chick gets raped by her brother next to the corpse of their dead son, there were like a million articles about that.

It's apparently all about warring political factions, rape/incest, ice zombies, and a chick giving birth to some dragons. And then she banged her nephew and they're gonna unite the houses and save the world from the ice zombies, or something. I truly don't know much beyond that.

It all seems very silly to me, but again, this is just based on the very limited amount of it that I've been exposed to. I won't knock anyone for liking it - if nothing else it looks Very Expensive and the cast is attractive - but I think it would exhaust me. When it was new she had me watch the first two episodes and that was about all I had patience for. Which again, isn't really about the show itself; I can't really watch TV anymore, it's too passive. I only ever have it on as background noise while I'm reading or something.

Again, I'm sure someone else could tell you more, but those are the broad strokes as I understand them. And I honestly can't remember personally witnessing any guys talk about it in real life, just women. I know men watch it but I can only call what I see, y'know? I just always chuckle because most women are extremely quick to demonize porn, and the people who watch it, but they're alright with this stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I knew it had sex scenes, but rape ones? I think that'd bother me, honestly.

I can't think of any real rape scenes in GOT... There's that one early on with Momoa and Emilia Clarke... but Clarke's character ends up liking it and decides to up her sex game.

There was a scene a season or two ago with Cersei and you-know-who that people said was a rape scene, but TPTB said it wasn't.

[Leo656]

Maybe I'm confused, then. Perhaps what I'm thinking of is that the books were more rapey than the show and the show simply fudged things a bit to get past the censors or something.

Like just last week I read an article about things that were changed from the books to the show, and apparently after Day One in the books Mamoa's character just raped her nightly until he later got killed off. So I'm not shocked that they changed all of that.

I often wonder what the hell fantasy writers have against women. I know what *I* have against them, but I'm not out here writing stories for profit about rape and incest and making TV shows about them.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

You get permission to roll your eyes at me when you've seen half of what I seen, Junior.

My disdain for the so-called "fairer sex" is no secret and never has been. I assume you somehow missed it.

Individually, one or two are okay. Collectively, they're terrible.

Good to know that I don't need to elevate my opinion of you any longer in a foreseeable future, "Mr. Macho".
LOL.

[Leo656]

If you or I were ever on the same side, I'd know I was doing something wrong, chief.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I can't think of any real rape scenes in GOT... There's that one early on with Momoa and Emilia Clarke... but Clarke's character ends up liking it and decides to up her sex game.

So... it's like hentai, then?

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I do find it funny however that the movie is literally coming out next week and there still aren't any official reviews out yet.

Maybe they don't want to post spoilers.

Anyway, I don't really pay much attention to Brie. I know she tried to defend A Wrinkle in Time by saying it only got bad reviews because it "wasn't made for 40 year old white male critics". While that doesn't exactly make her charming, it isn't that far off from something any other actor would say.

To be fair, Wrinkle was getting some unnecessary criticism.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I can't think of any real rape scenes in GOT... There's that one early on with Momoa and Emilia Clarke... but Clarke's character ends up liking it and decides to up her sex game.

There was that Sansa and Ramsey thing, too. That seemed to be the one that mostly rubbed people the wrong way.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

There was that Sansa and Ramsey thing, too. That seemed to be the one that mostly rubbed people the wrong way.

Oh yeah, true.

Well sh**, only one actual rape in 8 seasons of a show where/when that'd be going on left and right? That's not bad. Plus he

Spoiler:

got eaten by dogs.

[Xav]

This is hilarious are they really that scared of this movie getting bad press?

Rotten Tomatoes Removes 'Captain Marvel' Anticipation Score in Response to Trolls

[Leo656]

This is all just theater. It's absolutely going to do better than Wonder Woman. It has everything that movie had insofar as being an "important" movie, PLUS a "Marvel" sticker on it.

I don't think it'll be bad, but even if it was, it really wouldn't matter. There's an automatic guaranteed return on these things. Even the "Ant-Man" movies made a good chunk of change, despite "Ant-Man" being right there in the title.

I don't plan to see it, but anyone expecting it to fail, or even be bad, is being silly. Marvel films generally aren't for me but it's not like they're incompetently made. They're entirely Populist Crowd-Pleasers designed in a focus group to achieve maximum impact across all demographics, and they succeed in that, every time out.

Like "Black Panther", I expect that they've gone the extra mile to insulate the project from any and all criticism, but that even without that it will do fine.

[neatoman]

Rotten Tomatoes just updated the entire site to remove the "not interested button". Before this happened the interest in the movie dropped to 27%, it did slow down but only because it reached so many votes that new ones didn't even make a difference in terms of percent.

[Vegita-San]

that is just beyond pathetically sad on RT's part.