Brie Larson the frontrunner for Captain Marvel - Page 27

*Prowler* · 03-08-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Nobody's making fun of Britney!

Haha came in to say this.

Whatever happened to the guy from that video, anyway?

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 05:08 PM

He is now a She, and last I heard was still a loony-tune.

*Galactus* · 03-08-2019, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The early reviews indicate otherwise. Looks like DC have a big hit on it's way

https://www.nme.com/news/film/damn-n...are-in-2459029

I know it's being very well received by these early screenings but then so was Captain Marvel.

I actually want Shazam to do well but I'm not seeing the same amount of interest from the general public. Yeah that's because Captain Marvel is part of a popular cinematic universe that has became a huge machine of it's own and Shazam is...not but that's where we are.

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I do agree that Captain Marvel should go on to make a lot of money in spite of the mixed reviews. People don't skip Marvel movies, and they only pay attention to critics when they agree with them, otherwise "they're all idiots". But in that regard, yes, it's similar to BvS in that people will go see it regardless of reviews, and they'll probably still buy the disc as well.

As I've said before, I just find it very strange that this is the first MCU movie that a lot of people actually noticed wasn't very good, because they've done plenty that weren't very good. It's kind of unfortunate, because any genuine criticism is being shouted down amidst the "woman-hating trolls" defense, when in truth, it just sounds like they whiffed.

It would be very nice if people could set politics aside when discussing these things. BUT, to be fair, Disney/Marvel set themselves up for it by openly positioning this film as a political statement in the first place. Wonder Woman COULD have been political, or man-bashing, but it wasn't. It was an extremely even-handed film that wasn't preachy nor condescending, and people liked it. This stuff really shouldn't be so difficult. But as we've seen with "The Last Jedi" and now this movie, if you stick your neck out, someone may take a swipe and you may need to suffer the consequences.

I still expect it to do fine, though. It would just be nice if people were allowed to discuss it without all the political finger-pointing and assumption of ulterior motives.

It's not really similar to Batman v Superman. That movie starred a number of cultural icons who many people have waited their entire lives to not only see together on film but do the exact things the movie had them doing. People were always going to turn out for that no matter how bad the reviews were or how bad the movie itself looked.

By contrast both Carol Danvers and Marvel's own Captain Marvel brand has had a small but cult following among the niche audience of comic book readers. Even with Marvel's recent knack for taking lesser known characters and making them modern icons there's a reason why the people against this movie on ideological grounds took the tactic of saying this would be Marvel's first commercial failure and bring down the whole MCU.

I pointed out on another thread that a while ago that no matter how much money the movie made detractors would spin the narrative it wasn't enough but now the kind of money it looks likely to make is going to make that hard to argue they've hit on using reviews which is bull****. This is getting a lot of objectively good reviews. The fact that it's not getting 100% glowing praise for being some flawless masterpiece and people using that to attack it is disingenuous.

If it seems strange to you that reviewers are pointing out out flaws in a Marvel movie they otherwise think is good I don't think you've been paying attention. That's basically how all Marvel movies review go down, the particularly high ceiling only started in Phase 3.

The idea that flaws in MCU movies don't get pointed out is born out this conspiracy thinking that either reviewers are all paid Disney shills or all have a social justice agenda to push Marvel as they are seen being pro-diversity even though the movies haven't been that good in that regard up until recently. Captain Marvel has been a lightning rod for this since it was announced before any casting or marketing had happened. Not that any of this matters to the regular public as far as I can see tonight reactions have been very positive.

*snake* · 03-08-2019, 10:46 PM

Well, I just saw it. It's okay.

It's very unpolished, and doesn't really "feel" like an MCU movie. The film feels like a random draft of the script, except it's a fully realized production. There's so much that they could've done with the story, and I'm just like- "This is what they went with?". S.H.I.E.L.D never had contact with extraterrestrials, or even knew of them before? Okay? Why does this have to take place on Earth? Why is the Kree-Skrull war explained so poorly to the point where neither side feels sympathetic or unsympathetic? It's a very meh story overall, but I guess it gets the job done- introduce Captain Marvel. Sadly, it fails at giving her character, or making her remotely likeable. This is the biggest problem with the film- Captain Marvel herself.

Carol Danvers as a character is supposed to be a bitch. That's fine, she's like that in the comics too. I never feel like I'm watching Carol Danvers, though. I feel like I'm watching a bored Brie Larson completely fail to land jokes. Jesus Christ, she's awful. Make her a bitch, that's at least a f*cking character. You never get anything from her in this. It's like she's autistic or something in some of these scenes. The f*cking child actors who played Carol in the flashback scenes have more conviction and ambition then Brie. Her charisma vacuum sucks in everyone around her, with Samuel L. Jackson just barely managing to avoid the black hole that is Brie Larson's resting bored face.

It's okay though. It's not a crazy feminist movie like the internet expected- it's just boring. Bottom-tier Marvel movie. I liked it? It's not an abomination like Suicide Squad, but it's not that great either. See it, maybe? I liked it.

*Papenbrook* · 03-08-2019, 11:19 PM

Did they really play "Just A Girl" during the fight scene?

How was it?

*Allio* · 03-08-2019, 11:44 PM

Fight scene had no tensiion. As soon as Marvel got her powers she went into god mode and the entire third act slogged.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-08-2019, 11:44 PM

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

*sdp* · 03-08-2019, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

*oldmanwinters* · 03-08-2019, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

Lesser pay for equal work?

*Galactus* · 03-09-2019, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

Her current powers in the comics are similar to the X-Men's Bishop. She can absorb various forms of energy to utilize her strength, flight and energy blasts etc. How strong her powers are depends on how much energy she has stored up. She's had trouble absorbing magic energy.

However the movie might give her a slightly different powers based on some slight spoilers I've read...

Spoiler:

*Xav* · 03-09-2019, 12:43 AM

YouTube fought Brie Larson trolls by changing its search algorithms

*Papenbrook* · 03-09-2019, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Allio

Fight scene had no tensiion. As soon as Marvel got her powers she went into god mode and the entire third act slogged.

... umm, alrighty then ...

*ZariusTwo* · 03-09-2019, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

his is getting a lot of objectively good reviews.

The reviews are objectively mixed. The only high percentages are coming from comic book sites and fanboys that like pretty much everything Marvel churns out, it's brand loyalty, not objectivity.

*Storm Eagle* · 03-09-2019, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I guess they must have watched Wonder Woman.

And Alita.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-09-2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Lesser pay for equal work?

Posts like these make me wish there was the Like button. Not enough to comment on, but enough to say "Yes!"

*Ninjinister* · 03-09-2019, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The reviews are objectively mixed. The only high percentages are coming from comic book sites and fanboys that like pretty much everything Marvel churns out, it's brand loyalty, not objectivity.

Says the guy who wouldn't know objectivity if it had a physical form which was currently biting his ass.

*snake* · 03-09-2019, 06:02 AM

I think I physically cringed when Come as You Are started playing for no reason.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-09-2019, 07:08 AM

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Says the guy who wouldn't know objectivity if it had a physical form which was currently biting his ass.

Micheal and I settled out of court.

And it's 2019, not 2003, grow up, take your internet tough guy/playground insults and shove them, all you're doing is proving my point

~~Leo656~~ · 03-09-2019, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Lesser pay for equal work?

That was wonderful.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-09-2019, 12:40 PM

We are about to see it, so I'll be back in a bit to talk about my thoughts. Super stoked for this, since she us where my user name came from, and my fave Marvel heroine!

03-08-2019, 10:46 PM	#524
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Well, I just saw it. It's okay. It's very unpolished, and doesn't really "feel" like an MCU movie. The film feels like a random draft of the script, except it's a fully realized production. There's so much that they could've done with the story, and I'm just like- "This is what they went with?". S.H.I.E.L.D never had contact with extraterrestrials, or even knew of them before? Okay? Why does this have to take place on Earth? Why is the Kree-Skrull war explained so poorly to the point where neither side feels sympathetic or unsympathetic? It's a very meh story overall, but I guess it gets the job done- introduce Captain Marvel. Sadly, it fails at giving her character, or making her remotely likeable. This is the biggest problem with the film- Captain Marvel herself. Carol Danvers as a character is supposed to be a bitch. That's fine, she's like that in the comics too. I never feel like I'm watching Carol Danvers, though. I feel like I'm watching a bored Brie Larson completely fail to land jokes. Jesus Christ, she's awful. Make her a bitch, that's at least a fcking character. You never get anything* from her in this. It's like she's autistic or something in some of these scenes. The fcking child actors who played Carol in the flashback scenes have more conviction and ambition then Brie. Her charisma vacuum sucks in everyone around her, with Samuel L. Jackson just barely managing to avoid the black hole that is Brie Larson's resting bored face. It's okay though. It's not a crazy feminist movie like the internet expected- it's just boring. Bottom-tier Marvel movie. I liked it? It's not an abomination like Suicide Squad, but it's not that great either. See it, maybe? I liked it. Last edited by snake; 03-08-2019 at 10:56 PM.*

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Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	Fight scene had no tensiion. As soon as Marvel got her powers she went into god mode and the entire third act slogged. __________________

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MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	We are about to see it, so I'll be back in a bit to talk about my thoughts. Super stoked for this, since she us where my user name came from, and my fave Marvel heroine! __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

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~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	He is now a She, and last I heard was still a loony-tune.

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Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	YouTube fought Brie Larson trolls by changing its search algorithms

03-09-2019, 06:02 AM	#537
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	I think I physically cringed when Come as You Are started playing for no reason.