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*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 03-19-2020, 09:36 AM

Star Trek is still doing a million times better than Star Wars.

Those poor bastards.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-19-2020, 10:12 AM

It's easy to say that, but in reading about it I'm not so sure. Seems about even. At least from Over Here.

"Yay, Luke's back! FINALLY! Oh, wait, this sucks."
"Yay, Picard's back! FINALLY! Oh, wait, this sucks."

Just being a fan of ANY popular franchise from "back in the day" has been tough, these last 10 years. The moral of the story has consistently been, "We know you liked this stuff once upon a time. Well, we're f*cking it up now. You'll like what we give you or kindly f*ck off, jack." Which seems like an... interesting marketing strategy to ME, but since we've seen it SO many times the last few years, I guess there's something we just don't understand.

TMNT... Star Wars... Star Trek... Thundercats... She-Ra... Ghostbusters... they've ALL had their swing at the "Let's take this awesome thing and ruin it, that'll make us rich!" thing. And the public response is usually pretty negative, and they don't always make a lot of money, either. BUT, that's been the consistent approach to "reviving" any popular brand; just make it completely unrecognizable at all and hope the people watching it for the very first time will like it. Except these new kids have much shorter attention spans and fall out of love a lot faster than we all used to, so again, I question the strategy.

But again, I'm not some billionaire corporation that thinks it's smarter than the people paying me for my products, so what the ever-loving f*ck do I know? Maybe "Take your medicine, fanboy" really IS the right way to go? If not, why doesn't anyone try and pull the nose up on this kinda sh*t? Pretty soon there won't be any popular franchises left to ruin.

*CyberCubed* · 03-19-2020, 10:24 AM

For Star Trek the first seasons are known for being the weakest of every series, this is especially true for Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise, but then the shows rebound and get much better as they go on. Picard having a weak first season doesn’t surprise me, but the show is already planned through Season 3 so I expect a similar upswing next season.

There were growing pains and the writers will hopefully learn from the flaws. I also expect Picard Season 2 to feature a lot more past characters returning and we already know quite a few are confirmed so the nostalgia cameo feast should be good.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-19-2020, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Star Trek is still doing a million times better than Star Wars.

It's true. Regardless of what's going on now, Star Trek could just make any one of a number of quality TV shows tomorrow and be right back on top. Conversely, Star Wars could announce a new trilogy tomorrow -- or anything, really -- and no one's going to care anymore.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

For Star Trek the first seasons are known for being the weakest of every series, this is especially true for Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise,

Though I do appreciate the experimental nature of a lot of season 1s. They tend to take a lot of risks that later seasons don't.

03-19-2020, 09:36 AM	#21
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Star Trek is still doing a million times better than Star Wars. Those poor bastards. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

03-19-2020, 10:12 AM	#22
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's easy to say that, but in reading about it I'm not so sure. Seems about even. At least from Over Here. "Yay, Luke's back! FINALLY! Oh, wait, this sucks." "Yay, Picard's back! FINALLY! Oh, wait, this sucks." Just being a fan of ANY popular franchise from "back in the day" has been tough, these last 10 years. The moral of the story has consistently been, "We know you liked this stuff once upon a time. Well, we're fcking it up now. You'll like what we give you or kindly fck off, jack." Which seems like an... interesting marketing strategy to ME, but since we've seen it SO many times the last few years, I guess there's something we just don't understand. TMNT... Star Wars... Star Trek... Thundercats... She-Ra... Ghostbusters... they've ALL had their swing at the "Let's take this awesome thing and ruin it, that'll make us rich!" thing. And the public response is usually pretty negative, and they don't always make a lot of money, either. BUT, that's been the consistent approach to "reviving" any popular brand; just make it completely unrecognizable at all and hope the people watching it for the very first time will like it. Except these new kids have much shorter attention spans and fall out of love a lot faster than we all used to, so again, I question the strategy. But again, I'm not some billionaire corporation that thinks it's smarter than the people paying me for my products, so what the ever-loving fck do I know? Maybe "Take your medicine, fanboy" really IS the right way to go? If not, why doesn't anyone try and pull the nose up on this kinda sht? Pretty soon there won't be any popular franchises left to ruin.

03-19-2020, 10:24 AM	#23
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,888	For Star Trek the first seasons are known for being the weakest of every series, this is especially true for Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise, but then the shows rebound and get much better as they go on. Picard having a weak first season doesn’t surprise me, but the show is already planned through Season 3 so I expect a similar upswing next season. There were growing pains and the writers will hopefully learn from the flaws. I also expect Picard Season 2 to feature a lot more past characters returning and we already know quite a few are confirmed so the nostalgia cameo feast should be good.