Star Wars: The Mandalorian

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The mere fact that they never even made a CG cartoon with Luke/Han/Leia says enough in itself. They could easily adapt the comics made during the original trilogy or directly after episode 6 into a new cartoon for Luke/Han/Leia but for some reason they never do it.

I'm not sure why exactly. Everyone wants to see new adventures of Luke and everyone outside of comics but they never give them any cartoons/shows ever for some reason. You just have to read comics/books to see that but not everyone wants to read so most tend to forget it exists.

The answer to this is obvious, Cubed but if I give it, it's just going to sound like I'm trying to go back and forth with you. Give it some thought, consider when Star Wars in animation really began in earnest and how the 80's animation before it was looking for property offshoots. I mean... it's obvious as to why, brother.

The short of it is that there is a fandom that wants to see Luke as a bad ass Jedi in his prime, outside of the whiny boy and the doddering old guy who does nothing in the new flicks. There wasn't any reason in the previous plan to give the O3 any more time in animation given the way Star Wars as an IP has unfolded.

If Ruin Johnson didn't come on board and we had a bad ass Luke, Leia and Han movie recently, then you'd bet there'd be something in animation.

[CyberCubed]

None of that has to do with a series set during the OT trilogy era or directly after it. There's canon Star Wars comics since 2015 that feature Luke/Han/Leia in new stories and we'll never see those animated.

TLJ is 30 years in the future, it has nothing to do with the characters having stories in their prime. Likewise Luke's role on the island was already set up by Lucas and JJ, it has nothing to do with Rian.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

None of that has to do with a series set during the OT trilogy era or directly after it.

Well that's exactly what it has to do with! That's exactly the point I was trying to lead you through without saying it. A franchise has to be currently lit to get ancillary material most of the time. For an OG animated series of some kind the iron would have to have been hot for it now with the 3rd trilogy, but they didn't capitalize on the original cast, bud! That's the point.

And the Clone Wars was capitalizing on what was known to younger fans then - the prequel trilogy. And that's when Star Wars became a mover again in animation - with the Clone Wars. And with the recency of the prequel trilogy of course they were going to go with the clone wars. Audiences have recency bias and Hollywood capitalizes on it.

And so to set an animated series either during the original trilogy or immediately after it using the O3, then the O3 would've needed star exposure from the new films, which they didn't get. They weren't even on screen together. That's how Hollywood works.

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i'm sure we'll see cartoons with the OT cast sooner rather than later, they obviously don't care about wacky stories with the cast if the canon Marvel comics have been any indication.

When will Disney dump SWs Detours comedy show? The show has a full season of finished episodes that Disney acquired from Lucas ready to release, can't do more damage than the sequel trilogy. Could even be good. That's the real question.

[Zulithe]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.

I suspect someday we'll get a story about Luke's life during his jedi temple period and we'll learn Mara Jade was a part of Luke's life, and fled with Luke's son from the temple as it was being destroyed. Maybe Luke thought she was dead all this time, or felt he had to distance himself from them the same as he was with everyone else. Anything can happen, Star Wars loves to pull this sort of thing This is why they very intentionally are vague on so many things, so they can fill it in as needed later.

Skywalkers are only as done as Disney wants (or makes) them to be. Rey aside.

[frank_one]

Talking about Mara Jade, who I just met in the game Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith, I wonder if we will ever see the reintroduction of Kyle Katarn in the canon.

[Andrew NDB]

Like Gina Carano, now the same SJWs are going after Rosario Dawson for "transphobic" stuff, trying to cancel her:

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/ro...it-1234601227/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Like Gina Carano, now the same SJWs are going after Rosario Dawson for "transphobic" stuff, trying to cancel her:

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/ro...it-1234601227/

Seems really, really bizarre to see people go after Dawson over what sounds like complete BS.

[Leo656]

Rosaria Dawson is an incredibly attractive woman who knows she's an incredibly attractive woman. She keeps herself fit and likes when people notice. She understands that many people who look at her are going to think about her in a sexual context, and is okay with that, and doesn't lean away from roles which sexualize her. She specifically did not wear a bra on purpose for a scene in "Clerks II" where she had to dance; this was not something she was asked to do, but something she chose to do, and explained it by saying, essentially, "That one's for the boys."

Basically, she's everything the Leftist Feminist Brigade hates. Her very existence reminds them of everything they aren't, and they feel bad about themselves when they see an attractive and intelligent woman who isn't afraid of being sexy. They're jealous, because they're overweight and unshaven and unfortunate-of-face or whatever else or any combination of those things, and so they see someone like her and cannot stand that she even exists. How dare she be attractive! How dare she be successful! Worst of all, how dare she be sexy! Doesn't she understand that women like her who embrace their attractiveness and sexuality make it HARDER for the couch potatoes with hairy armpits to hang onto their self-esteem? They know that if given the choice, any guy would always take someone like Her over someone like Them, and they find that "unfair".

Therefore, she is The Enemy. And to "level the playing field", the "We have EVERY right to be fat and slovenly!" brigade has to find SOME thing to attack her for. They need her off the board. She wrecks the curve. I mean, in theory they COULD just fix themselves, because self-improvement is a virtue, but they don't see it that way. "We shouldn't HAVE to, dammit! People should just accept us the way we are, even if we're fat, or have mustaches, or runaway body hair that makes us smell like hamburger meat when it's hot out! We shouldn't have to be 'conventionally attractive', people should just accept that we're slobs and deal with that!" Yeah, well... they don't. Deal with THAT.

I mean, you have to notice when the Feminazis go after someone, it's never someone who looks like Them. It's always someone hot. That's not by accident. It's just their way of lashing out at anyone who makes them feel "inferior". "You're better than me, and that hurts my feelings, because you're in a place I'll never be. And rather than get off my ass and try to improve myself, I'd just as soon see YOU not exist." And if there is no reason, they'll invent one.

A girl I knew well went to UMass. Through her and her friends, I learned a LOT about "feminism". And there is NOTHING a "modern, liberated feminist" hates more than a hot chick who's successful. They can't stand them, and will do absolutely anything to get rid of them. If they had their way, Wonder Woman would be 300lbs with hairy pits. Any woman who takes care of herself and keeps fit may as well be committing a hate crime, the way they see it. There's no reasoning with those types of people. They're lunatics.

This may come off as rather harsh, but only because it's 100% true. I've seen and heard way too much about how those people think, up close and personal. They have an agenda, and it involves wiping the Earth of good-looking people so they can sit around and stink without anyone judging them. By Any Means Necessary.

It's gross.

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Originally Posted by Zulithe

I suspect someday we'll get a story about Luke's life during his jedi temple period and we'll learn Mara Jade was a part of Luke's life, and fled with Luke's son from the temple as it was being destroyed. Maybe Luke thought she was dead all this time, or felt he had to distance himself from them the same as he was with everyone else.

This is brilliant, man. I hope this happens.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Seems really, really bizarre to see people go after Dawson over what sounds like complete BS.

You aren't just now noticing how bizarre this is? Quite a bit of it has been BS for years now......

And even when it isn't BS, it isn't general society's right or place to play judge jury and executioner. We do that with the ebb and flow of our dollars, not by sabotaging livelihoods. This has been bizarre for years, brother.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Rosaria Dawson is an incredibly attractive woman who knows she's an incredibly attractive woman. She keeps herself fit and likes when people notice. She understands that many people who look at her are going to think about her in a sexual context, and is okay with that, and doesn't lean away from roles which sexualize her. She specifically did not wear a bra on purpose for a scene in "Clerks II" where she had to dance; this was not something she was asked to do, but something she chose to do, and explained it by saying, essentially, "That one's for the boys."

Much of this might be true, but she's also a "thinking actress". She creates characters and she plays them incredibly well. Her Ashoka Tano was amazing in one single TV episode she established a definitive role, especially based on what was previously an animated character. I'd vote that she RDJ'd it with Iron Man, or Harrison Ford' it with Indiana Jones. Honest to God, I thought she was amazing.

[Leo656]

Haven't seen it, but I can buy it. She's definitely a good actress, I've been a fan of hers for a while and not just because she's hot. That definitely helps, but that's not all of it.

As to why The Left would suddenly try and attack her, though... that's what it comes down to. "She's hot, she wrecks the curve, thus she must be eliminated by any means necessary." People said it was weird that she'd be a target, I was merely explaining where it comes from, that's all.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Leo656

and not just because she's hot.

Sin City.... yeesh! Great flick too....

[Andrew NDB]

She was also the only good part in "Alexander."

You know which part...

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

She was also the only good part in "Alexander."

You know which part...

I haven't seen it!

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Oh geeze, just by coincidence I ran into this on YouTube. Look at that... looks terrific as Luke!

[Leo656]

She was pretty good in "Death Proof", but good Lord, I am not into feet and Tarantino really needs to talk to someone about that stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

She was pretty good in "Death Proof", but good Lord, I am not into feet and Tarantino really needs to talk to someone about that stuff.

Well on by that point, and given the nature of "Death Proof" as a Grindhouse thing, Tarantino was aware of people pointing that out and just sort of said "f*** it* and owned it. Probably the most "in your face" Tarantino foot thing was Salma Hayek's performance in "From Dusk Till Dawn."

I really dig Rosario, though. She has a certain disarming sensuality about her in just about every performance... yet can flip around and be a kind of scary rage monster, too. Also, a lot of actors and actresses, you can enjoy their performances but for many (and the "behind the scenes"/interview type stuff too) you just know that if you were ever in a room with them, you would be beneath them. I feel like the Rosario Dawson who shows up to shoot for Oliver Stone or Tarantino is probably the same Rosario Dawson who would, like, have a pizza with her buddies.

Does anyone have any guesses as to who they'll cast as Grand Admiral Thrawn? Surely it'll be a Name, as they'll be having Gus from Breaking Bad taking orders from him. Once upon a time as a kid I figured that an icy cool (as in, not jokey Bond swagger mode) Roger Moore would have been picture perfect. But that was some time ago.

[Leo656]

I hope Kurt Russell got his shots after. That's all I'm sayin'.

[Andrew NDB]

I honestly had no idea she was in that 90s "KIDS" movie.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Does anyone have any guesses as to who they'll cast as Grand Admiral Thrawn?

Given they went with Katie Sackoff for Bo-Katan, they could quite easily have a look at Lars Mikkelson for Thrawn... face might not be angular enough though.