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Originally Posted by CyberCubed
I think the thing is Bruce Wayne is an educated billionaire with an air of sophistication around him. When he's wearing the Batman costume he should portray himself above the petty criminals he's fighting. If Batman goes around dropping "F-bombs" and cursing, he's no better than the criminals he's beating up. Batman isn't a thug, he's a portrayal of justice.
That's why I asked if Batman ever cursed regularly in the mainstream comics, because I don't think he really has? Maybe said "Bastard" a few times I guess. Batman should not use foul language because then he's just as bad as the villains.
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Certainly during the creative renaissance of Denny O'Neil there was very James Bond vibe to the character that lasted a long time. Even after Miller's The Dark Knight Returns became a huge deal it took some time to work in thuggish Batman into DC's main books and even then he rarely became as bad as that in the proper continuity.
I wouldn't go as far to say swearing makes him as bad as the villains it's a small thing to complain about. If it was just that I'd shrug my shoulders and accept that in the context of this universe Bats is a bit looser with his vocabulary hell I could even give a pass on him killing if this was golden age inspired Batman but it isn't. These are just signs that Snyder is just doing shock value for the sake of it whether it fits the characters or not.
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Originally Posted by sdp
Snyder isn't the best with story or characters, he's good at making cool moments and memorable action scenes. I don't expect Snyder's Justice League to be the best JL movie I can imagine but I expect it to be a fun movie to watch, with cool moments, lots to talk about, lots to disagree with, anything but a boring movie.
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That's why Warner Bros hired him. His eye for action and after Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy they thought dark n' gritty was the way to go for all their heroes. I don't think they anticipated that they'd get Snyder trying to turn the Superman story into an examination of objectivist philosophy or that he would go overboard with the shock value.
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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade
Batman isn’t really a symbol of justice. He’s a vigilante and taking matters into his own hands. He can break into places without a warrant, kidnap people and send them to the police, and beat people up to a pulp.
If he wanted to do justice the proper way he would’ve ended up as a police, judge or lawyer - the proper legal system way and that’s boring.
Batman can do what he pleases and the police tolerated him because he can help in ways they couldn’t.
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That depends. For most of his history Batman has worked with James Gordon and Gotham PD ans usually plays with nice with them. Throughout most of the silver age he was officially deputised. I think Batman Begins as a movie gave convincing reasons why Bruce didn't go down the route of being a police officer or a judge or a lawyer and that took inspiration from The Man Who Falls which showed what happens when he does go the legitimate route.
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Batman killed in all the movies except Batman & Robin. Cursing is not even a problem.
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The movies have long fudged the whole no killing thing. Certainly Bats has inflicted injuries on henchmen that it's hard to imagine them surviving. However I tend to think we're supposed to think that Batman doesn't kill and these poor schlubs inexplicably survived. Heck the Nolan movies outright say he doesn't kill.