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Old 05-15-2022, 01:14 PM   #121
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I always thought being a normie is liking show for certain qualities, not just for logotype alone.
I'm being hyperbolic, of course. But brand loyalty is a thing.

They are stirred more by the imagery of something (or the idea of it) rather than digging further into something, and understand why they enjoy it. Thus seeing Chip and Dale on their screen is enough. It doesn't matter that the voices are different or that this movie's plot lacks everything that made the original enjoyable.

Chip and Dale = Childhood Show = "I clapped because I recognize it!" = (Shallow) Happiness/Satisfaction
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Old 05-15-2022, 01:46 PM   #122
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Kinda like the amount of people here (unless they were all plants) that were clamoring for the BayTurtles when anyone that was ever an actual fan knew that **** was gonna be dead on arrival.
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Old 05-15-2022, 01:47 PM   #123
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Oh, definitely.

I mean, I've seen normies say they're excited for it on other platforms online, but these seem to be the types that would probably clap like seals just staring at the Rescue Rangers symbol on screen for two hours.



It seems like a detestable movie. It has all the worst aspects of modern day movies: nonsensical writing, horrible 'fanservice', annoying 'comedy', detestable d-bag characters, empty virtue signaling (apparently based on the leaks), and so on. If this thing gets certified fresh or whatever online, I'm just done with humanity, because all hope that people can recognize quality over garbage will be immediately destroyed for me.
It's basically just rehashing the whole "old characters in the modern/real world" trope seen in Rocky and Bullwinkle, Tom and Jerry (both movies!!), Christopher Robin, and I know others as well. Some worked, some didn't. I mean, I'll still watch this; but my expectations aren't high.
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Old 05-15-2022, 02:06 PM   #124
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It's basically just rehashing the whole "old characters in the modern/real world" trope seen in Rocky and Bullwinkle, Tom and Jerry (both movies!!), Christopher Robin, and I know others as well. Some worked, some didn't. I mean, I'll still watch this; but my expectations aren't high.
But those characters are the characters though (some are slightly different or modern takes but still the characters), with this one they're making it like Chip and Dale aren't real, but actors only pretending to be the guys we used to watch on TV.
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Old 05-15-2022, 05:07 PM   #125
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But those characters are the characters though (some are slightly different or modern takes but still the characters), with this one they're making it like Chip and Dale aren't real, but actors only pretending to be the guys we used to watch on TV.
Exactly.

And I'd argue that this makes it much worse than the other 'CGI animals annoying the human protag' movies.
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Old 05-15-2022, 11:50 PM   #126
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Let me tell you a tale, Coola.

More than a decade ago, I went into my dad's room, and saw him watching Resident Evil 3. He looked bored, maybe a little confused too. I told him "Hey, you know, this is the third movie in that series. Maybe you'll understand better if you saw the other two." He shrugged, and said he didn't give a crap about any story. He just wanted to see the explosions and zombies get killed. I'm not even exaggerating. He really did say that all that mattered was the explosions and kills.

I think that encounter gave me a huge insight on how normies view movies. They don't care about continuity, story, characters, etc. All that matters is that their basest needs are met.
Yeah, this is my in-laws, pretty much. They watch just about anything and everything, if it's part of a series and out of order they just roll with it, even though I can always hear them muttering about things they don't understand. "Wait, which Batman is this, now? Wait, I thought he fought the Joker already in the other movie? Wait, this is a whole other SERIES? Why do they do that, why don't they just keep the same story and just change the actor? Why do I gotta pretend I didn't watch something I just watched?" And so on.

But regardless of confusion, they think everything is "great", unless it's boring. Like, they love the Transformers movies because lots of stuff blows up, even though the story is absolute nonsense. They can watch them in any order because the plot literally does not matter at all.

Batman v Superman, on the other hand, had my wife's Dad cursing at the screen during the opening credits, because they took too long. And he's a guy who gets up to piss and meander frequently, which you really can't do with that movie because you really have to pay attention, so every time he sat back down he'd be confused and we'd have to rewind it. If something blew up, he sat still, but otherwise, he was antsy. And afterwards, he had nothing to say about it. He liked "Man of Steel" but he'd completely forgotten about it by the time he watched BvS. So right from the jump he was confused as to how Christian Bale somehow turned into Ben Affleck between movies.

But yeah, I think most "casual viewers" are like your Dad, and my in-laws. They're not even really paying attention, they're just killing time and trying not to be bored. Me, I like an immersive experience over all else. But most people seem wired differently.
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As for this movie, with every commercial it looks like one of the worst things I've ever seen. For some reason, my wife agrees yet wants to watch it anyway. I managed to put off Tom & Jerry long enough for her to forget about it, so I'm hoping she'll forget about this one, too.

We'd need an extended sequence of Gadget in a bikini for me to even THINK about watching this movie, and even then, I'd still probably just Google that one clip and skip the rest.
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For me brand loyalty is a loyalty to certain ideas in the brand, not just name alone.
But something tells me, a lot of people disagree with it.
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:12 AM   #128
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But yeah, I think most "casual viewers" are like your Dad, and my in-laws. They're not even really paying attention, they're just killing time and trying not to be bored. Me, I like an immersive experience over all else. But most people seem wired differently.
Mhm. Yep. They treat media like a means to kill time, and to relive memories in the case of trash like this new movie. They don't care about the details. Hell, they don't seem to really think about the media they consume afterwards either, they just go off about their day. I also prefer an immersive experience, and stuff like likable characters, good story, etc.
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Old 05-16-2022, 09:54 AM   #129
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For me brand loyalty is a loyalty to certain ideas in the brand, not just name alone.
But something tells me, a lot of people disagree with it.
Nowadays it's like, why be loyal to a brand that's not loyal to you anymore? It seems most of the franchises nowadays just don't want you. They want to cater exclusively to the woke weirdos crowd and you are no longer welcome. But um...keep giving us your money though
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Old 05-16-2022, 09:58 AM   #130
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Nowadays it's like, why be loyal to a brand that's not loyal to you anymore? It seems most of the franchises nowadays just don't want you. They want to cater exclusively to the woke weirdos crowd and you are no longer welcome. But um...keep giving us your money though
Yeah, basically. They want the woke weirdos, and also the normies who don't care either way because they'll consume anything as long as there's 'buzz' and nostalgia around it.
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Yeah, basically. They want the woke weirdos, and also the normies who don't care either way because they'll consume anything as long as there's 'buzz' and nostalgia around it.
They're the only ones stupid enough to say 'this is not for you' then blame you anyways when it bombs. See the recent Charlie Angels movie bomb.
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Old 05-16-2022, 12:43 PM   #132
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We'd need an extended sequence of Gadget in a bikini for me to even THINK about watching this movie, and even then, I'd still probably just Google that one clip and skip the rest.


Apparently, "Foxglove" has her fanbase online. That is one episode I don't even remember as it didn't make the first DVD releases. Maybe I'll finally check it out on BluRay.

I was a bit confused why they brought Foxglove back for the Boom! comics (really good for an 8-issue run), but I'll be curious if they throw the internet fandom a bone in this movie.
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Guess this clip confirms the "chipmunk voices" are part of their act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZuH4iwJR6s

Sounds like Tress Macneille is back as Gadget, at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W18AD6Eq14s
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Guess this clip confirms the "chipmunk voices" are part of their act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZuH4iwJR6s

Sounds like Tress Macneille is back as Gadget, at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W18AD6Eq14s
The more I see of this movie, the more my blood boils. Holy crap.

Also, it sounds like MacNeille, but damn... Gadget sounds like she's 70 years old.
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Also, it sounds like MacNeille, but damn... Gadget sounds like she's 70 years old.
Well... yeah. Because... real life?
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Well... yeah. Because... real life?
But Gadget shouldn't sound like that?

Why does she get her original voice, but the other Rescue Rangers don't?
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Lately on social media, I have been seeing new clips have been showing that Monterey Jack has been kidnapped and it‘s up to Chip and Dale to solve this case of why he went missing. So, they are making the strongest member of the team the damsel in the distress, which is quite a change.

This review also says that Tress MacNeille is indeed reprising her role as Gadget. So, I guess that’s one good thing to look forward to if I decide to watch it. However, it doesn’t seem like her part is going to be that big.

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Lately on social media, I have been seeing new clips have been showing that Monterey Jack has been kidnapped and it‘s up to Chip and Dale to solve this case of why he went missing. So, they are making the strongest member of the team the damsel in the distress, which is quite a change.
Eh, it happened to him back in the day:
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There seem to be positive reviews.

Even though I loved the Rescue Rangers when I was a kid' this doesn't appeal to me but I'm still going to give it chance, I have Disney Plus anyway.
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In an addition to the "Who is this for?" discussion I give you the unedited lyrics for the song that plays in all the promos:
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Best Friend / Saweetie
That my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Got her own money, she 'on't need no nig'
On the dance floor, she had two-three drinks
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in
That's my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Drive her own car, she 'on't need no Lyft
In the strip club, know my girl gon' tip
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in

Beep-beep, is that my bestie in a Tessie?
Fresh blow out, skin on tan, ooh, she ready
Bitch, you look goodt, with a T at the end
I'ma hype her every time, that my mother****in' friend
She been down since the jellies and the Volvos
Got me steppin' out that Jeep, got Manolo's
When we pull up to the scene, they be filled with jealousy
If a bitch get finicky, she gon' bring that energy (pop-pop-pop)
I hit her phone with the tea, like, "Bitch, guess what?"
All the rich ass boys wanna **** on us
All this ass sittin' up, you can look, don't touch
In our bag, bust some bands every time we link up

That my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Got her own money, she 'on't need no nig'
On the dance floor, she had two, three drinks
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in
That's my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Drive her own car, she 'on't need no Lyft
In the strip club, know my girl gon' tip
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in

That my best friend, if you need a freak
I ain't dumb, but mother****er, she my Tweedledee
If she ride for me (ride), she 'on't need a key
If you sideways, she'll straighten you if need to be
And she so bad that I just can't take that bitch nowhere
She off her fifth shot, said, "Mmm-mmm, don't go there"
Bitch, break her back, she protect and attack
Get that strap like them buckle, foot on neck, give no air
Whole world wanna be us
And my main bitch, she my day-one
On my way, bitch, let you get drunk
Let's celebrate 'cause we the baddest in the club

That my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Got her own money, she 'on't need no nig'
On the dance floor, she had two, three drinks
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in
That's my best friend, she a real bad bitch
Drive her own car, she 'on't need no Lyft
In the strip club, know my girl gon' tip
Now she twerkin', she throw it out and come back in

Ha, best friend, you the baddest and you know it (you know)
Uh-oh, girl, I think our booty growin' (ayy-yeah)
**** it up in the mirror, hit them poses (pose)
Best friend, damn, you mother****in' glowin' (woo-woo)
Best friend, damn, your wrist look like it's frozen (it's frozen)
Uh-oh, girl, I think our booty growin' (uh-oh)
**** it up in the mirror, hit them poses (hit that pose)
Best friend, you my mother****in' soulmate
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