Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yep. What a horrible genocide.

Sarcasm? Just earlier, you said it's not a Genocide but here you're saying it is.

Which one is it? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your 2nd post, since its better than the 1st one.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yep. What a horrible genocide. And of course it's not like the other side could have just surrendered at any point in the past couple of years and it'd be over or anything. Nope.

So you would advocate for people who were forcibly removed from their ancestral homeland to simply roll over and submit to their oppressors? I never took you for a bootlicker, Andrew.

I guess I shouldn’t have said “ignorant” earlier; what I really meant was “easily swayed by propaganda”

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

So you would advocate for people who were forcibly removed from their ancestral homeland to simply roll over and submit to their oppressors?

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-new...ate-in-the-us/

Letter from Charlie Kirk to Benjamin Netanyahu, absolutely worth reading. Two quotes that stuck out to me:

I regret to report that anti-Israel and anti-Semitic trends are at record levels on social media. These negative sentiments then flow downstream into college campuses and even seep into the conservative MAGA community.

In my opinion, Israel is losing the information war and needs a “communications intervention"

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

You are going to lose your country to Zionist masters if you keep licking their boots.

Anyways, here is footage of Kirk questioning how Israel, one of the most surveilled countries on the planet, failed to intercept the “attack” on October 7th.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

And again Andrew, you’re falling for laughably weak propaganda. All those claims of sexual assaults by roving gangs of Palestinians and dozens of beheaded babies were proven to be complete fabrications.

You know who does have a documented history of raping their subjugated enemies? Israel.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

And again Andrew, you’re falling for laughably weak propaganda. All those claims of sexual assaults by roving gangs of Palestinians and dozens of beheaded babies were proven to be complete fabrications.

"Proven" how? And be specific. I'm aware of the attempts to initially call the photos an AI thing or manipulation.

I like you and I don't hold it against you, but I'd wager we'll just get into a circular argument where we could badger each other about the other one falling for propaganda. Just don't assume I say anything lightly.

[Mayhem]

Claim doing the rounds that the head of TPUSA booked the State Farm stadium for an event in September back in May, but there was nothing listed on its website that suggested anything was happening.

The conspiracies, especially re Israel, are not going to go away.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

The conspiracies, especially re Israel, are not going to go away.

Israel should start deploying Mossad everywhere to prevent any terrorist attack in the United States because they will be suspected or blamed otherwise.

Once upon a time, it was antisemitic to suggest Israel controlled America. Now, Israel's involvement in the JFK Assasination, Jeffrey Epstein, 9/11 and the USS Liberty incident have all become mainstream talking points.

The Red-Pill is real, and its changing the world for generations to come.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"Proven" how? And be specific. I'm aware of the attempts to initially call the photos an AI thing or manipulation.

I like you and I don't hold it against you, but I'd wager we'll just get into a circular argument where we could badger each other about the other one falling for propaganda. Just don't assume I say anything lightly.

Heavily cited and worth a read: https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/...-babies-false/

Also found this clip incredibly interesting. Y’all called me crazy for saying exactly what Charlie Kirk is asking here:

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

The Red-Pill is real, and its changing the world for generations to come.

Yeah 20 years from now it won’t be viable to be an AIPAC politician in America.

[ToTheNines]

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Make that a regular reccuring meme here everytime the Based RedPills are dropped

[Andrew NDB]

So PBD saw something about someone in Egypt claiming they were warning something was happening before they retracted it, and Charlie Kirk visited Israel and saw a lot of soldiers so 10/7 totally had to be done with the IDF's knowing. Oh, and there was some trouble brewing in the government so BB must have had some hand in this. It was on a Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah. There was another one last week. I couldn't even get the Jewish guy who just put in my garage door motor the day before to come and fix it all week.

But is that about it? Not very compelling.

[ToTheNines]

“One reassuring thought: one of our hidden advantages is that these people wouldn't believe in a conspiracy if it hit them over the head” - Peter Thiel, 2014

[Mayhem]

Given Hamas got into Israel too easily on October 7th, yes there's been a conspiracy since that it was a deliberate allowing to stoke the Israeli response.

[ToTheNines]

It’s wasn’t “someone in Egypt” is was the Egyptian government/intelligence: https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-...thing-big/amp/

Your anecdotal story of a Jewish handyman living in AMERICA is apples to oranges in comparison to the IDF being the main line of defense in their country located in the Middle East, surrounded by armed enemies.

Also:

[Andrew NDB]

Oh please. Yeah, the IDF briefing that morning: "All right, boys... we're going in there and MOWING DOWN our own! That's what we're doing today! Jesse, I know your aunt Shari is there but I need you to put on your game faces! Make it look good, too! Also, all of you in this room better promise to take this secret to your graves!"

I'm not saying such a thing is impossible, it's just that if that's what happened a whole lot of other things would have had to be in place that wouldn't make any sense or hold up to much in the way of real scrutiny.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh please. Yeah, the IDF briefing that morning: "All right, boys... we're going in there and MOWING DOWN our own! That's what we're doing today! Jesse, I know your aunt Shari is there but I need you to put on your game faces! Make it look good, too! Also, all of you in this room better promise to take this secret to your graves!"

I'm not saying such a thing is impossible, it's just that if that's what happened a whole lot of other things would have had to be in place that wouldn't make any sense or hold up to much in the way of real scrutiny.

Do you know about the Hannibal Directive? Just curious.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Do you know about the Hannibal Directive? Just curious.

I do. Absolutely no evidence it was applied here, anywhere (despite what some people on Piers Morgan smiling when asked about 10/7 who have a lot to say), but it might've been. Like if a wounded IDF soldier is being carted away speedily in a Hamas pickup truck and there's no real way for your men to get to him in time then yeah... they might consider offing him vs. letting him get sent to the terror tunnels as a shiny new bargaining chip. I'd also imagine most/all of these soldiers would even ask or want that, if it came to that. 10/7 was like 9/11 on crack in terms of how personal and in-your-face it was, for Israel. It'd be Aliens, "If it comes to that... I'll do us both." Granted, I'm going hypothetical here but not far from the mark of what I've heard from the accounts, I think. If I was to put myself in the IDF's shoes, battling Hamas and I get shot and they start carting me away... absolutely, blow me away right there and then. No? You really want to take your chances about what comes next? Honestly?

[Mayhem]

JFK like assassination conspiracy continue to swirl, I’ve seen so many videos like this it’s starting to push the narrative. People are rightly questioning if Tyler had anything to do with it.

The fact Erika doesn’t even show any signs of mourning is one thing. Like she’s Sharon Stone to Arnie in Total Recall. No shots of their kids faces, no shots of Charlie playing with them, the photos just all seemed staged in hindsight.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPfBC...Y1MTN5bjNudTg4

(the only false flag is the Dairy Queen, been led to believe it’s a shop ten miles away from the one people say is now shut down)