Spider-Man 3 - UK-Exclusive DVD on Page 37

[愛]

The Shredder fight in the first movie was two minutes long, max. And he was thrown off a building using some nunchucks.

Yeah, great villain.

[Spitfire]

When people mention Shredder I take his comic form into account*Being as how his old toon one was useless in being menacing*

And in the comic other villains popped up more then him. The Shredder was mini, minor, not important. He served his purpose which was getting his ass handed to him in Yoshi's honor and was killed. That was it.

Doc Ock and Goblin haunted Peter's life for years. Goblin espcially. Goblin screwed up Peter's life so bad. Even in death Goblin messed with Peter.

Shredder has nothing on that.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I hate this, we think they are villains, but in the end, they had their reasons and they are really not such bad guys after all, just caught in bad situations.

Congratulations, you just figured out what drives some of the best Spidey adversaries, NONE of them are "I'm going to conquer the world", evil is defined by their misconduct by others or by certain circumstances.

Were you expecting a f*cking Tex Avery cartoon or something?

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

When people mention Shredder I take his comic form into account*Being as how his old toon one was useless in being menacing*

And even still, he was killed in the first comic. I don't know about you guys, but that's pretty bad ass, super evil, hardcore to me!

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Peanut

The Shredder is a joke compared to the Green Goblin or Doc Ock. Don't even bring that up.

There you go, attacking me again.

Green Goblin was the product of two things, a man with a split personality disorder, and that he was also a good man, that was treated horribly by his companie's execs that wanted to make a profit off of his hard work. he got pissed and retaliated, and I actually agreed with what he did.

The spide dude was being controled by his program. He wasnt really a bad guy, and ended up giving his life to save others.

The Shredder, or at least the original, was at first fueled by old fashion revenge. But he did nothing heroic to redeem himself. He used everyone around him for his own needs.

The Green Goblin at least cared deeply for his son.

I prefer the villains who have no pity. Oh, like, Freddy Krueger, T-1000, Sauron, Voldemort, Aliens, Megatron.

The only villain that I like that has the soft side would be Darth Vader, but hes in a class all by itself.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Peanut

And even still, he was killed in the first comic. I don't know about you guys, but that's pretty bad ass, super evil, hardcore to me!

Lol not that I don't agree but he didn't die. He comes back, destroys April's shop and then in a 3 parter the TMNT storm his fortress and kill him.

He's in a total of 5 issues not counting the tales crap. Like I said very weak presence. Why alot of TMNT fans annoy me because they act like he's their main villian. Maybe in the cartoon but in the originial medium he's nothing.

[ZariusTwo]

Wait wait...you're letting the most pyschotic Spider-Man villain off the hook because he CARED for Harry? Did'nt you watch the first movie or read the comics?

Norman DESPISED Harry, and did'nt care about him at all even before becoming the Goblin, only the nervous, goblin repressed persona of Osborn loved him, he only cared for Harry when he took on his legacy as the Goblin and tried to kill Spider-Man.

You don't know a lick about this character, and your retarded preference to B-Movie villains and a Transformer proves it.

[Jester]

Am I the only one who thinks that of the 3 villains, that Eddie Brock had the most character building in Spidey 3. Granted Harry had the other to grow into New Goblin and thus can be "placed on the back burner" so to speak, but poor Flint seemed to be fairly one note and not as complex as previous Spider-man villains. The villain with a heart of gold...yawn.

On to the motivations of Brook, have they ever been overly strong anyway? My main reference to Venom is the 90's Spidey series, where Eddie is fired from the Bugle and he blames it on Spider-man...that's it. A similar motivation to the Spidey 3 Brock, only it's Spider-man alter ego that causes the firing. What's forced about Eddie hating Pete for first taking his job and then, once he's down, taking his "girl"?

[Sliced]

Saw it, and really, it IS the worst of the 3. And is even worse than X-3 for me. Both had the same issues really. Too much stuff... All packed in. No fun. It did had amazing special FX but man, for all the rest...

Quick list of things I hated in this piece of ...

Spoiler:

1- Venom was useless, and since it was my favorite villain in spiderman, I hated him in this movie. He WAS badass, but they made him an asshole, now he's dead and I'm happy that we won't see him again. One humiliation is enough. The thing that Brock wasn't really the Brock we knew, was not too bad for me. But Venom himself was nothing of what he used to be.

2- Dark Peter (emo..whatever..) was also annoying beyond what I could endure. MJ was also... Her character in this movie was the worst of the 3. I can understand the whole emotional things, but it was just too much. Really the actions scenes in this movie were fillers. This movie is an emotional drama.

3- The ending is the worst ending I saw in years. Cliche, deja vu, boring, predictable. Everyone dies, woohoo... ''Is it the end of spiderman...?'' I would really wish so. No more. Please. Although it could maybe end this series on a good note, I doubt that I'll want to watch it in theaters. Not after this...

Yeah you can call it whinning if you want. I don't care, as its really what I think of this... sorry excuse for a Spiderman movie. The worst is that I heard all of those bad things that were said against this movie. So my hopes were not high at all. I thought that I could maybe enjoy it anyway... I was wrong.

Go see it if you want, but this is really amongst the worst number 3s ever.

[Warhorse]

Oh, and I'm not talking about the comics. Never read them. I'm just stating with what I saw in the movies.

And in my mention between Goblin and Shredder, it was about the movies, and it was tongue in cheek humor, how the Goblin in the movie was a creation of really greedy people. But then again, Goblin I thought was the best villain I've seen in Spiderman.

The others, I didn't find to be true villains in the sense of the word. They went off course, but then, they redeemed themselves by sacrificing them selves for a greater good, or asked for forgiveness.

Now, Venom was intriguing. But I just thought it could have been spurred by something more dramatic than someone being pissed because his fake photos were pointed out.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Wait wait...you're letting the most pyschotic Spider-Man villain off the hook because he CARED for Harry? Did'nt you watch the first movie or read the comics?

Norman DESPISED Harry, and did'nt care about him at all even before becoming the Goblin, only the nervous, goblin repressed persona of Osborn loved him, he only cared for Harry when he took on his legacy as the Goblin and tried to kill Spider-Man.

You don't know a lick about this character, and your retarded preference to B-Movie villains and a Transformer proves it.

And dont call me names! I'm not calling a damn person on this board not a single name. I come here to discuss stuff, not be flamed! And I wonder why you have a warned on your profile! I didn't do a damn thing to you to deserve that! We are allowed to have opinions and thoughts without being flamed or insulted on this board, or did you skip that part of the rules?

[Peanut]

Uuuuhhhh...so you work your whole life towards a goal, and someone comes and rips it all away, leaving you with nothing...and...you're cool with that? Brock was blacklisted. How the hell would he get a job when everyone knew he was a con-artist? He was basically reduced to nothing, a bum. Seriously, did you even understand half of the movie?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Uuuuhhhh...so you work your whole life towards a goal, and someone comes and rips it all away, leaving you with nothing...and...you're cool with that? Brock was blacklisted. How the hell would he get a job when everyone knew he was a con-artist? He was basically reduced to nothing, a bum. Seriously, did you even understand half of the movie?

The movie I saw, well, Brock was being stupid, and got what he deserved. If he wanted to be a ligitimate photographer, he should have known not to send in fake photos, especially of someone as famous as Spider-Man.

And while the Venom itself was really cool, Brock's own agenda became pathetic. He was young. He still had his whole life ahead of him, and photography is not the only job in the world. But instead, he reminded me of a brat kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and had a temper tantrum about it.

Wasn't it also very convenient that the meteorite landed right next to Peter Parker? See, I thought that the astronaut was going to be bringing home something "alien" from his last journey to space, and that he would become Venom. And since he already knew MJ, it wouldn;t be much of a stretch for the writers to figure out a way for MJ, Peter and the astronaut to meet up with eachother, and Peter could be getting the effects of the black stuff that way.

The action scenes were cool, but I didn't like the plot line or the character development. And I dont understand why people on ganging up on me for my for opinions. I'm not attacking anyone for their opinions on the matter! Are members on this board really that upset that there are some people in this world who are dissapointed in Spider-Man 3?

[GK Punk]

Yeah, we need to stop all this fighting. Not everyone is going to agree.

[愛]

You're only getting one warning before I straight up lock this thread for good.

Respect opinions, no name calling, and....I think that's it. Just be respectful, please.

[ZariusTwo]

Go see it if you want, but this is really amongst the worst number 3s ever.

You'd be wrong. Thanks for whining

Don't fret dude, not bashing you or anything, just another "Venom was badly used" rant is so cliched these days, it does'nt factor as a criticism, more a sign of consumerism finally getting it's ass handed to it

Of course the movie was an emotional drama, WELCOME TO SPIDER-MAN. There's nothing in Spidey 3 that was'nt in the first two movies, it's the current "fad" to bash popular films when they reach a certain level of expectation

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I'm not attacking anyone for their opinions on the matter! Are members on this board really that upset that there are some people in this world who are dissapointed in Spider-Man 3?

I'm fine with the criticisms, given 90% of them prove most hav'nt read nor know what Spider-Man is, never will, and promptly kills their arguments about the film's flaws hopelessly dead. There's a few things I did'nt like about the movie myself, but there minimal at best and did'nt betray the film or the character. Only five year olds and Venom junkies hate the movie, and Christ has that character blindfolded tons of people.

[RaphistheBest]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

it's the current "fad" to bash popular films when they reach a certain level of expectation

A fad? Sure...

given 90% of them prove most hav'nt read nor know what Spider-Man is, never will, and promptly kills their arguments about the film's flaws hopelessly dead.

Umm...where did you get that percent? And apparently, according to you, you have to be some kind of Spider-Man comic book guru-scholar guy to be able to understand the movies at all.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by RaphistheBest

A fad? Sure...

Sure.

Umm...where did you get that percent?

From all of the stupid criticisms

And apparently, according to you, you have to be some kind of Spider-Man comic book guru-scholar guy to be able to understand the movies at all.

DA-DA! You win the prize, a lifetime supply of Spidey back issues so you can trace the core roots of the character and learn that this guy IS'NT a popcorn movie icon, he's a multi-layered hero

On that note, time to request a thread-lock, as god knows this is just going to lead to more Emosexual elitism

[Sliced]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You'd be wrong. Thanks for whining

My pleasure... Sorry but I had to get it out. I was too dissapointed.. Whining is so great for that.

Don't fret dude, not bashing you or anything, just another "Venom was badly used" rant is so cliched these days, it does'nt factor as a criticism, more a sign of consumerism finally getting it's ass handed to it

Of course Venom is now a ''cliched'' rant. The guy was one of the favorite bad guy for alot of people. And it would've been awsome for this trilogy to end with the epic Venom vs Spiderman. We only had a little fraction of what we wanted as fans of both Venom and Spiderman. The way the movie was done, Venom was just not needed. Or him or sandman was one baddie too many.

This movie would've been great even if Venom was not to be in it at all. But be honest, and tell me that you were not dissapointed about the whole Venom thing... We cannot always have what we want as fans, and I can't really say that I enjoyed the few minutes we were able to see Venom.

Of course the movie was an emotional drama, WELCOME TO SPIDER-MAN. There's nothing in Spidey 3 that was'nt in the first two movies, it's the current "fad" to bash popular films when they reach a certain level of expectation

I enjoy when a movie has drama. But not when there's too much. The first 2 movies did had alot of drama, and yeah its ''SPIDERMAN'', but this movie had way too much. I found this movie to be very entertaining, but also very boring and ridiculous by moments. And I'm not the only one... There were no cheers, or no excitement in the theater... People were actually talking about other things during the movie. We could hear them all too well talking about their upcoming weekend... We also had some people walking out before the end and I could hear alot saying how dissapointed they were.

And about the ''fad'' of bashing films, well, we all have our level of satisfaction toward something. Its really impossible to please everyone, but I'll say it when I'm dissapointed about a movie. Just like I'll say it when I love a movie. There was actually alot of whining in Whining-man 3, what I did here was nothing compare to that.

Only five year olds and Venom junkies hate the movie

Spider-man fans are hating this movie. Not just us Venom junkies.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Only five year olds and Venom junkies hate the movie

Actually the 5 year olds loved the movie. In fact the only people happy walking out were the kids. All of the adults look like they were just forced to watch a horrid kids movie.

One girl*The annoying one who sat behind me and talked the entire movie* said "That was the best movie I ever saw ever." I wanted to tell her she needs to watch some more movies and keep her mouth shut while she does it.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

this guy IS'NT a popcorn movie icon, he's a multi-layered hero

True. At least, he shouldn't be "a popcorn movie icon". However, this representation of him is best suited to try to be both. Faithful comic-inspired movies tend to put-off the casual viewer. So, it's in the studio's best interest for it to be a popcorn 'veg-out' movie. If a bunch of Spider-fans were to write the movie, it would likely never get off the ground because no one would be able to agree on what should and shouldn't be done. All the negative comments I've read about this movie are actually valid. But, at the same time, they all make me think, "wasn't that true for all of them?" Everyone should have known what to expect. I knew what to expect, and I left the theater satisfied. By no means does that mean I loved every minute of it, but I found the flaws easier to ignore than the previous two films'.