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Old 06-25-2007, 04:43 AM   #21
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If only there were a currently-running universe that would give these idiots their Binky. Everything would be fine.
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:09 AM   #22
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If only there were a currently-running universe that would give these idiots their Binky. Everything would be fine.
Or if they were actually fans they could buy the OT DVDs. They say they were in love with the OT but they get mad that there is a different style of TMNT out there. Hello, if you prefer the OT, buy the DVDs and watch them.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:26 PM   #23
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*sighs and getting a headache* I need to lay down before I feel a migraine coming from the noobs on that forum
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:43 PM   #24
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Or if they were actually fans they could buy the OT DVDs. They say they were in love with the OT but they get mad that there is a different style of TMNT out there. Hello, if you prefer the OT, buy the DVDs and watch them.
What makes you think they don't buy the OT DVDs?
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:45 PM   #25
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What makes you think they don't buy the OT DVDs?
Well if they have what they want what do they have to whine about.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:47 PM   #26
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Well if they have what they want what do they have to whine about.
They're whining because they're not getting new stuff from that universe as well.

It's kind of like how I can sit and read Volumes 1, 2, and 4 of the comics over and over and enjoy them a lot but I'm still wanting Volume 4 to continue.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:48 PM   #27
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I haven't even worked up the courage to follow the link in the first post yet, but I can definitely identify with the "OT is the be-all end-all" phenomenon.... Every single one of my friends that I show the new toon to or who I saw the new movie with inevitably asked "why didn't they have the theme song?" It makes me want to scream every time. Why would the new cartoon have the old theme song on it?? Lol. Another friend made me a little nuts just a few days ago, complaining after seeing a total of three episodes of the new toon that they don't talk about pizza at all, and that she misses the pizza. My only TMNT-savvy friend and I explained that the new toon is less goofy than the old, but she wasn't having any of that...she was convinced that pizza was an utter necessity. Argh.
My friend was the same. She saw the "Touch and Go" episode with me, when Raph and Leo were running across the roof top. When she heard them speak she said: "Are they the same voices??"

These muppets need to stop being so ignorent and get a life. If you're going to try and make yourself look like a TMNT fan, at least get some facts right.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:50 PM   #28
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They're whining because they're not getting new stuff from that universe as well.

It's kind of like how I can sit and read Volumes 1, 2, and 4 of the comics over and over and enjoy them a lot but I'm still wanting Volume 4 to continue.
I suppose I can see where you are coming from but I just don't buy that. Where were these people before the new movie came out. They stopped caring about the turtles years ago and the new movie caught their attention so they had to b*tch and moan about how it's not to their specifications.
Had there not been a new movie, these people would never have wanted new stuff from that universe.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:59 PM   #29
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They were at GameFAQs, apparently.

Look, it's not like I like these guys or anything, but we also have people here who aren't stupid who also complain about the comics, 2k3 (especially FF), and the new movie because it's not up to their specifications. So, yeah, they're morons... but morons need attention, too.
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^ I understand. I'm not hating on you, snootch, I just can't stand these people that lost touch with ninja turtles and are whinning about a movie that I thought was done beautifully.
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Meh. Like I said... they're morons. In all of their supposed fandom, they seemed to have completely forgotten about the fact that those other three movies from years and years ago didn't sport Krang, bebop and Rocksteady, the Technodrome, or the OT theme.

So, I'm with you overall. I just don't think anyone, stupid or otherwise, should get neglected when push comes to shove.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:10 PM   #32
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I may feel differently about their opinions if I felt that TMNT wasn't any good. If this movie had sucked big time, then they may have a point. But it was good without Bebop Rocksteady and the technodrome. The movie was supposed to be a sequel, loose sequel yes, but sequel nonetheless.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:15 PM   #33
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Meh. Like I said... they're morons. In all of their supposed fandom, they seemed to have completely forgotten about the fact that those other three movies from years and years ago didn't sport Krang, bebop and Rocksteady, the Technodrome, or the OT theme.

So, I'm with you overall. I just don't think anyone, stupid or otherwise, should get neglected when push comes to shove.
What you say is very wise and a mature approach. Unfortuantely, you can't please everyone but I thought the film did a very good job. The film wasn't 100% to my taste, but I accept that they were catering for other audiences besides myself and my love of gritty angsty narratives. It's just a shame that some people can't open their minds - the TMNT franchise is huge with so many aspects. There's always going to be something left out (just so happens that OT characters have lived their lives, run their course and have now been put to bed by Peter Laird which is fair enough - even The Shredder, once such a crucial character, is less and less predominant in the franchise - it's just a sign that Mirage know when to say when, which in my opinion is a good thing).
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:18 PM   #34
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OMG that was painful.
The only thing I have to agree with those morons is about the game. It wasn't that good.
I prefer the classics.
But that's it, these idiots don't know what they are talking about.
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:06 PM   #35
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What you say is very wise and a mature approach. Unfortuantely, you can't please everyone but I thought the film did a very good job. The film wasn't 100% to my taste, but I accept that they were catering for other audiences besides myself and my love of gritty angsty narratives. It's just a shame that some people can't open their minds - the TMNT franchise is huge with so many aspects. There's always going to be something left out (just so happens that OT characters have lived their lives, run their course and have now been put to bed by Peter Laird which is fair enough - even The Shredder, once such a crucial character, is less and less predominant in the franchise - it's just a sign that Mirage know when to say when, which in my opinion is a good thing).
I understand that. I just think that there should be something for the people who know nothing but the OT as well (beyond the DVDs). Maybe that's why there's gonna be a bunch of OT merch coming out next year. I dunno.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:11 PM   #36
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The Off-Topic (pun) merch coming out next year is unofficially in celebration of the show's 20th anniversary.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:22 PM   #37
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The Goon? I didn't say Ralph!.. and I prefer to be called the Snootch if someone's going to shorten my name.

Oh... and to be on topic. TMNT posers are dumb. I've said that many times both online and offline.
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:30 PM   #38
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well, one can understand that to an extent. I mean, c'mon guys, turn off your TMNT knowledge for a second and pretend the ONLY thing you ever heard of the TMNT was the old cartoon and the movies. You loved them, but they eventually ended. Now all of a sudden there's a new show... but April isn't a reporter... Shredder's a Krang-wannabe in a robot suit, no Bebop, Rocksteady, Technodrome, Slash, etc etc etc. And if you didn't see the new show, and only heard of the new movie, again, no Shredder, the turtles are running around fighting weird monsters and stone statues, it's like TMNT III all over again.

I'm just saying, like if you compare the TMNT revival to the He Man revival, the new He Man show truly 'updated' the original series, revamping and improving the older characters and adding several new ones. Sure, changes were made, but most of the old favorites were there. They didn't just make the show about He Man and Teela and a whole bunch of guys we never seen or ever heard of, fighting off weird new villians, or revealing Skeletor to be a female midget wearing a 'Skeletor suit'. The He Man revamp was like how many of the older TMNT fans wished the TMNT revamp would have been, the return of all the classic characters but with the awesome kick-ass action that they weren't allowed to have in the older show (giving Mikey his nunchucks back and all that).


I know, for us more deeper more 'educated' fans, it's a breath of fresh air to see stuff based on the original comics. I actually surfed through the TMNT site a few times and read up on the original comics so where I saw some of the new toon eps I was like 'oh wow, just like the comics'. When I heard TMNT III was being produced I was hoping the main villian woulda been either Rat King or Karai (I loved Karai in Tournament Fighters) and when I found out Karai was gonna be in the new movie, I was like 'awesome!!'. But yeah, we gotta give these guys some understanding. For them it's like their favorite show has been destroyed, and we're all the TMNT elitist snobs that love the new changes and preffer to keep Shredder 6 feet under.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:37 PM   #39
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well, one can understand that to an extent. I mean, c'mon guys, turn off your TMNT knowledge for a second and pretend the ONLY thing you ever heard of the TMNT was the old cartoon and the movies. You loved them, but they eventually ended. Now all of a sudden there's a new show... but April isn't a reporter... Shredder's a Krang-wannabe in a robot suit, no Bebop, Rocksteady, Technodrome, Slash, etc etc etc. And if you didn't see the new show, and only heard of the new movie, again, no Shredder, the turtles are running around fighting weird monsters and stone statues, it's like TMNT III all over again.
Well, I can't speak for everyone, but if that were the case for me, I would have did some research to find out why the revival was so different than the OT that I grew up with, instead of carelessly barking moronic assumptions and acting so stupidly stubborn.

As a matter of fact, if someone watched only the movies and the OT, then they would hopefully find out that the films were a derivative of the comics (since they hardly had any connection to the old toon other than bandana color and pizza), which were the inspiration for the revival in '03.
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:54 PM   #40
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well, one can understand that to an extent. I mean, c'mon guys, turn off your TMNT knowledge for a second and pretend the ONLY thing you ever heard of the TMNT was the old cartoon and the movies. You loved them, but they eventually ended. Now all of a sudden there's a new show... but April isn't a reporter... Shredder's a Krang-wannabe in a robot suit, no Bebop, Rocksteady, Technodrome, Slash, etc etc etc. And if you didn't see the new show, and only heard of the new movie, again, no Shredder, the turtles are running around fighting weird monsters and stone statues, it's like TMNT III all over again.

I'm just saying, like if you compare the TMNT revival to the He Man revival, the new He Man show truly 'updated' the original series, revamping and improving the older characters and adding several new ones. Sure, changes were made, but most of the old favorites were there. They didn't just make the show about He Man and Teela and a whole bunch of guys we never seen or ever heard of, fighting off weird new villians, or revealing Skeletor to be a female midget wearing a 'Skeletor suit'. The He Man revamp was like how many of the older TMNT fans wished the TMNT revamp would have been, the return of all the classic characters but with the awesome kick-ass action that they weren't allowed to have in the older show (giving Mikey his nunchucks back and all that).


I know, for us more deeper more 'educated' fans, it's a breath of fresh air to see stuff based on the original comics. I actually surfed through the TMNT site a few times and read up on the original comics so where I saw some of the new toon eps I was like 'oh wow, just like the comics'. When I heard TMNT III was being produced I was hoping the main villian woulda been either Rat King or Karai (I loved Karai in Tournament Fighters) and when I found out Karai was gonna be in the new movie, I was like 'awesome!!'. But yeah, we gotta give these guys some understanding. For them it's like their favorite show has been destroyed, and we're all the TMNT elitist snobs that love the new changes and preffer to keep Shredder 6 feet under.
you poser lover!

KROW is right, they should go see what is going on. If they cared they would.
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