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Now, when 4Kids lost Pokemon, it was a very happy moment for me. Pokemon games are awesome, but that TV show needed to rot in hell. Same goes with that Kirby cartoon. It ruined the franchise. Nintendo partnered with gutter filth to make a buck during the played out GameCube era. Fortunately, Smash Bros. is here to undo all of 4Kids damage to the character's public persona.
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I actually loved the Kirby cartoon. Plus, oddly enough this was the only time I liked a 4Kid's theme song better than the Japanese one (Kirby, you are the tamborine of rainbows? Doesn't do it for me... sorry).
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So is this thing going to be released in the US? Cuz if it isn't, I'll Shutty uppy
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No idea, it hasn't been announced for a US release yet. Just European countries so far. Going off of the Trailer, the voice cast for the english adaption sounds like the "UK" cast, not the US cast.
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Winx is okay. Few cartoons are ever aimed specifically at girls it seems, and when they do it's usually crap like Bratz, so even though Winx could be a lot better, it gets point for at least being watchable and trying.
Though I have to wonder, I don't think it's any coincidence that both this and the Tinkerbell/Disney Fairies movies are both coming out in December, I smell some competition brewing. Speaking of Disney ,for those who have watched it, how does Winx compare to Disney's Witch in your eyes? Which is better?
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I watch both, and like both. W.i.t.c.h. is a better show over all IMO. I'm not sure why it flopped so hard over here. W.i.t.c.h. seems a little more aimed at all genders and all ages, as where Winx seems more aimed at girls specifically.
I thought it was funny though, during the time that Winx was a hit here, and the dolls were the number 2 selling doll in the states (Bratz was best selling.) about a year and a half in to that, Disney Launched their Fairies line. Winx really made the fairy gimmick a big thing again. I am surprised that Disney hasn't launched a Disney Fairies animated series yet though. |
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I just never understood hating something, just because you don't like it. it seems a lot of people that don't like Winx want to ruin it for others as well. |
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A lot of people that don't like what I like constantly ruin stuff for me. it's not new.
I bet you could find this online or if you want to go a different route, you could buy the DVD online and get a region killer thingy for your computer. So I appologize. Enjoy the movie.
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I'd love it see a Disney Fairies series. I've always loved Tinkerbell and have read a few of the kids chapter books for the Disney Fairies series and they are quite good. Done properly, it could be a great cartoon.
As for the Tinkerbell movie, while Disney has finally decided to put a stop to their "cheapquels" a few were too far into production to stop, Tinkerbell the movie being one of them. I heard it will be pretty bad too, but it is Tink, so I kinda hope they are wrong. I'll watch it and judge it on its own merits if it has any. I really do believe that cartoons that don't promote gender roles are the way to go too, Dr. Tooth. I mean, look at how many girl fans there are of TMNT, like me, and it's a so-called "boys" cartoon. But I also think that if you look at the new fall line up of cartoons, too many of them feature a boy hero which automatically brings to mind the label of "boys cartoon." Doesn't mean girls won't watch them, but I wonder why we don't have more "strong girl" cartoons around like Sailor Moon or Jem and too many like Strawberry Shortcake as you said. We could do with a few more Kim Possibles or Juniper Lees is all. And I always liked Pepper Ann too.
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That's what I'll end up doing. I have a TV That has a PAL setting, and a DVD player that is open region. I'm all sorts of ready. I'd love to find the Italian Musical DVD one of these days. Quote:
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There are boys shows with bad girl characters shoved in for no good reason (we are TMNT fans... we know exactly who I'm talking about.... and it ain't April.) But then they do something wonderful, like X-men or something. Strong women like Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey. We need more role models like them. plus women like that make better characters anyway.
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See, that's what I hated about Winx Club. I saw it once when it debuted and I assumed that's what the characters were like. After giving it a chance I learned the girls are A LOT stronger than it looks like on the Surface. The story has pretty much revolved around showing how much Growth Bloom has done as a person.
The first season begins with her thinking she's a normal every day girl, then discovering she has powers. The first half of the season was the other girls helping her out, as her powers seemed weak. Eventually she learned the full potential of her abilities and is pretty much a one man wrecking machine. By season 3, she's very strong willed and isn't scared in the slightest of facing her enemies, or the unknown. She just jumps in head first like a real hero. Even on her own. And then there's Layla. She's such a strong character a lot of fans joke she's a lesbian. She's also the only character that doesn't have a boyfriend, as she believes it's not necessary to be happy. |
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Well, I have seen Winx a number of times because I was too lazy to change the channel, but it's not for me. It bores me and the animation looks like they tried to cut corners by having about 15 frames per second. I wouldn't ridicule anyone for watching it though.
Plus, if Michi calls me up this December, and says, "Hey, gobo. Wanna hop a plane with me to Italy for the premiere of the Winx movie?", I'd be there... mostly because I'd be scared to tell him "no". What I've always wondered is why people always assume that anything with a team of magical girls is a Sailor Moon clone. While Sailormoon might have been the ground-breaking and definitive 'magical girl' series, I assume it was hardly the first. And, if Winx was girlied-up for the US, I think that's the exact opposite of what they did with Sailor Moon. Have you ever heard the original Japanese music cues for that show? The Canadian music is what turned it from a "Jem & The Holograms" type glam/drama into a "Powerpuff Girls" type action/adventure. Quote:
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Actually, I've seen the entire Japanese series of Sailor Moon, as well as the English adaption(s.) That show couldn't possibly get more girl'd up than it already was.
But what I meant was the episodes were edited in a way similar to the US edit of Sailor Moon. Such as a scene was removed in an Ep of Sailor Moon when Rei slapped Usagi to get her to snap out of depression. A scene was removed from US Winx Club where Musa gets fed up with Stormy, and slaps her hard across the face. Other cases of that would also include complete re-writes, as well as episodes Jumble. The Italian version features an episode in Season 2 that re-starts the Musa/Stormy rivalry. The episode before it has a brief scene that shows Stormy and Musa having a bit of a Run in with eachother. The next episode expanded on it including them battling. The US Version edited that all in to one episode, removing the build up to the confrontation. Another would be an Episode where Stella (<3) is bitchy to everyone for no reason. She was in a bad mood the entire episode and took it out on everyone. The US Version changed the dialogue to say "Stella upset some seniors so they spelled her." Sailor Moon went through a good number of similar changes. I Know mah Sailor Moon Been a fan even before the DiC dub was made. As for the Sailor Moon knock off comparison, I'd say it's inspired, but not a knock off. The Magical Girl genre pre-dates sailor moon by almost 30 years. Sailor Moon was modeled after a combination of Magical Girl anime, and Sentai. (Piece of Trivia for you; Naoko Takeuchi designed it with hopes of a live action drama TV series. Which is why the Sailor Moon revival of 2003 was Live action.) Iginio Straffi very well could have based Winx's transformation idea off of several shows. On top of that, the only real comparison is the Transformation bit. Sailor Moon was more of a hero-in-the-real-world kind of deal. They concealed their identities. Alfea studends in Winx have no secret Identities. They use their magic to grow their wings, and every girl that attends Alfea can do it. (As the show rarely takes place on earth.) Besides. The Specialists > Tuxedo Kamen. Oh yeah, I forgot one of the points. When people ask me what Winx Club is like, i compare it to Harry Potter with Fairies. That's basically what the show is. |
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Yeah, but Tuxedo Kamen< Action Kamen.... I just wanted to be weird.
I just don't like it for multiple reasons. I do think 4Kids girlyed it by putting the "Don't touch the hair" line in the song. But an underrated series made by this Italian firm? Funky Cops. I hate to admit it, but 4Kids did a quality dub for this one. It was so smooth I thought it was an inhouse production (plus the artwork kinda looked like TMNT). If they dubbed the rest of their shows as good as they did with Funky Cops, no one would hate them as much. Too bad it last 4 episodes cuz the target audience was too young to get the satire of it all.
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Well, the original music is usually better than the American dub stuff... though I can't lie. I did like the US Kirby theme better than both Japanese ones (I love the second JP ending though).
Anyway, I loved Funky Cops, myself. The first episode where the villain was Paul Williams. Funny, bizzare stuff. Though I think the "End of Disco" episode was pretty campy for the show to do. I was pretty disappointed that out of 40 something episodes, they barely showed 10.
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I am saddened to see Winx Club go. I really enjoyed it and thought it was awesome. This is the second show on 4Kids that has been pulled. Shaman King was pulled also, and I liked that one a lot, too. Oh, well. Now I just won't have to get up at seven on Saturday mornings after Winx ends, unless they show reruns. I did miss one ep.
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