this time i really made a big discovery!hoohoo!

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by syd

when u saw this kinda reply,the point in ny statment suddenly became pretty clear.

The point of your statement is to try and call me a virgin nerd on a message board who doesn't know what sexual contact is. And your point is rather invalid, rather you choose to believe me or not.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

This is the most bizarre thread I've ever read on here, or on the Internet in some time. Everything from this odd story in the beginning to way too much information on people's sex lives.

What happened to threads where we speculated on which turtles was most likely to dress like Santa at Christmastime and the favorite holiday of each turtle?

[gobo]

The reason Leo was chosen to administer the injection was because he is the stealthiest amongst the brothers. The element of surprise is very important in that situation.

As for the rest of the thread... I was never here.

[triplexxx]

He was chosen 'cause Leatherhead happened to ask him to go get the gun. Any were stealthy enough to do it.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by syd

that huge OT I only skimmed

Kid, you're obsessed with sex even more than I am.

That scares me.

[syd]

Originally Posted by Fledermaus

I was starting to think you were either a child or mentally impaired based on your hard-to-follow writing. The name "syd" coupled with a pic in your signature gave the impression that you were possibly a teenage/adult Caucasian, possibly American, but now we know. And now I will read your posts with more patience.

That said, I can't see how one shred of the "evidence" you set forth supports your theory. Leo tranquilized Don because he saw it as his duty to protect his brothers, to take on the the task requiring the highest degree of responsibility. Philia love, not eros love.

One could also prove that Raph has a "thing" for Leo or Splinter for April based on this logic.

well im flattered!
but u will excuse me that i shell point out to u that actually and initially,never did i intend to prove or even assume something like leo has eros love to donnie.
furthermore,as u may patiently see that both in the beginning and the end of my theory,my point sentence were given.now if u r so kind to follow my finger---[finally....]
apart from all,i can't imagine what logic u use to prove that one can reason that raph has a thing for leo or splinter for april based on MY logic.
's friggy rediculous!when did i prove that "thing"?when?

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

Kid, you're obsessed with sex even more than I am.

That scares me.

HELLO?!

u want a piece of me?uh?

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

This is the most bizarre thread I've ever read on here, or on the Internet in some time. Everything from this odd story in the beginning to way too much information on people's sex lives.

What happened to threads where we speculated on which turtles was most likely to dress like Santa at Christmastime and the favorite holiday of each turtle?

the best thing to be a grow up,u kno,is u never have to explain everything.

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

The point of your statement is to try and call me a virgin nerd on a message board who doesn't know what sexual contact is. And your point is rather invalid, rather you choose to believe me or not.

excuse me AGAIN?!ox0
first of all if u mean THAT point of mine aka how many SEX have u said since u were born,what i meant to say is i really hate someone who thinks he is a chick killer and talk a world of sex all the time.maybe it is the division between esten and westen culture,i just can't agree that a guy shoulda think of sex,gal,sex,gal frequently to demonstrate that he is a man.knowing sex well doesn't amount to he or she is not a kid any more.there's no direct link between them.and i think that being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of,should he gets more important things in his life,such as firendship,dreams and the like.im not saying that gals are not attractive,but it's just thinking all about them is...i don't wanna use that word,i shell say not my style.
we gather around thetechnodrome from all over the world to share ideas about tmnt,because we love their respectable brother bond,their family bond,their adventure,their fighting for justice and friends no matter what await them next...why will someone mainline this turtle's sexual intention toward that turtle or their gay preferrance or something?if he was complaining about the shortage of big knockers in tmnt go and find himself some ero anime on emule or anywhere.this is just not that kinda commercial work that depends on selling knockers or gays whatsoever.
besides,what's the matter should they have romantic feeling toward each other?well that makes u puke?if u are true fan of tmnt surely u will not mind that trifle?even if u do,from any rate,they deserv no shame at all.too many things r more worth to notice than having homo sex with ur brother that shell infuriate u and suck u in.such as trust.do u have any idea what my point is?

and to clear my initial point:'both in the beginning and the end of my theory,my point sentence were given."i can't see how u missed it,perhaps u may illuminate in ur next defence.

Originally Posted by triplexxx

I don't think so, Raphael and Michaelangelo love their brother as much as he does and believe in getting the job done.

I see the point, but no good proof. Donatello's not the type to put on airs or get full of himself like Leoanrdo or Michaelangelo sometimes, but he does take some pride in his scientific accomplishments which is no big deal. He works hard probably just because he believes in...as stated below...protecting his brothers, since it's everyone's responsibility.
Of course its his duty to protect his brothers, it's every turtles responsibility to do that. So it still could've been anyone.

oh yea...protecting his brothers his family,sure he will.but i really doubt that one as intelligent as donnie merely has so simple a side of his personality.as we kno,no one is perfect.one pays so much efforts in science,technology,almost everything,do u really believe thoes r all for his family?in ideal,it could be,but in practice,only God afford this.if i was 11 or so i probablely thought of him like that,no offence,but now i painfully can not afford that sorta logic.

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

geez you guys you are being a little bit rude to the guy. Relax. Although do admit that I had the hardest time understanding what it is you wrote there Syd, it was barely legiable. I am in no way in a position to critisis, since I make my fair share of spelling errors and habitually write big bodies of text on a regular basis, but maybe you should slow down when you type and break up bodies of text by starting a new paragraph instead of just writing words into each other, or merly starting new sentices instead of going like this:

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it's a little hard on the eyes and difficult to read when you are writing a lot. By the way I am in no shape or form trying to put you down or trying to make fun of you. If you think my comments on how you type are off base and/or insulting then I want to apologise right now because that is not my intention.

But to answer your question No I don't think that Leo and Don have a rivilary going on but I do think they are very close. I think these two are closer than what is led to believe on screen and it would be nice to see these two pair up and interact more with out having Raphael and Mikey's immaturity interfereing. However it would be interesting if these two developed a slight competion of sorts between the two of them. They are easily the smartest and most startigistically minded of the four, so that could be cool to see.

boy,tha't right!finally someone got my point!*shake hands*
and thank u for ur advice.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Really why are we talking about anybody's sex life in the first place? No offense, but unless I'm reading a thread specifically about relationships I don't care who is able to score left and right and who is still a virgin.

I agree with you Syd, that we are a little too preoccupied with sex sometimes. I mean, it really shouldn't matter if you're a virgin or not. I blame the media.

Really though, it is kind of their fault that sex is so darn hyped up, when really there are bigger things to worry about and other things people should concern themselves with.

[Cure]

That's how I roll.

[syd]

y r rolling.

[triplexxx]

oh yea...protecting his brothers his family,sure he will.but i really doubt that one as intelligent as donnie merely has so simple a side of his personality.as we kno,no one is perfect.one pays so much efforts in science,technology,almost everything,do u really believe thoes r all for his family?in ideal,it could be,but in practice,only God afford this.if i was 11 or so i probablely thought of him like that,no offence,but now i painfully can not afford that sorta logic.

I'm not saying he's perfect, it's just from what I've seen in the shows, a huge majority of his scientific endeavors are directed towards either the comfort or protection of his family and innocent people he and his brothers help.

[Fledermaus]

You make so many claims that are correct, in and of themselves, but that have no relevance whatsoever to supporting your big discovery. Yes Don is way into science and inventing new things. He has great passion for it. Therefore...? Another example (I could pull up many more but that would take all night.)

Originally Posted by syd

we gather around thetechnodrome from all over the world to share ideas about tmnt,because we love their respectable brother bond,their family bond,their adventure,their fighting for justice and friends no matter what await them next

Um, okay. Obviously. Very deep, tugs at my heartstrings and all. But what does that have to do with anything? Instead of answering questions, you distract us with random truisms.

This is starting to remind me of that one South Park episode, Chinpokomon.

Sorry for the harshness brotha but it's really important that you be as clear as can be -- spell it out. Right now your enthusiasm is drowning out the sense behind your "arguing." Trust me -- I know the pain that results from neglecting one's audience. Don't expect people to bend over backwards to decipher your "deeper meaning." It just doesn't work that way.

If you were to sum up your claims in a few simple sentences, I assure you, there would be less confusion.

I have no idea how much this is actually sinking in, so I'll take my leave from this thread. Good luck to ya.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by syd

excuse me AGAIN?!ox0
first of all if u mean THAT point of mine aka how many SEX have u said since u were born,what i meant to say is i really hate someone who thinks he is a chick killer and talk a world of sex all the time.maybe it is the division between esten and westen culture,i just can't agree that a guy shoulda think of sex,gal,sex,gal frequently to demonstrate that he is a man.knowing sex well doesn't amount to he or she is not a kid any more.there's no direct link between them.and i think that being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of,should he gets more important things in his life,such as firendship,dreams and the like.im not saying that gals are not attractive,but it's just thinking all about them is...i don't wanna use that word,i shell say not my style.
we gather around thetechnodrome from all over the world to share ideas about tmnt,because we love their respectable brother bond,their family bond,their adventure,their fighting for justice and friends no matter what await them next...why will someone mainline this turtle's sexual intention toward that turtle or their gay preferrance or something?if he was complaining about the shortage of big knockers in tmnt go and find himself some ero anime on emule or anywhere.this is just not that kinda commercial work that depends on selling knockers or gays whatsoever.
besides,what's the matter should they have romantic feeling toward each other?well that makes u puke?if u are true fan of tmnt surely u will not mind that trifle?even if u do,from any rate,they deserv no shame at all.too many things r more worth to notice than having homo sex with ur brother that shell infuriate u and suck u in.such as trust.do u have any idea what my point is?

and to clear my initial point:'both in the beginning and the end of my theory,my point sentence were given."i can't see how u missed it,perhaps u may illuminate in ur next defence.

Jesus H Christ, that is so wow...

My point was why you even brought up my sexual life in the first place in response to a comment saying that maybe you ment Don was gay. That has absolutely nothing to do with my sexual life. Nor do I even want to know why you asked, let alone brought it up.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by syd

HELLO?!

u want a piece of me?uh?

... what the hell?

[syd]

Originally Posted by Fledermaus

You make so many claims that are correct, in and of themselves, but that have no relevance whatsoever to supporting your big discovery. Yes Don is way into science and inventing new things. He has great passion for it. Therefore...? Another example (I could pull up many more but that would take all night.)



Um, okay. Obviously. Very deep, tugs at my heartstrings and all. But what does that have to do with anything? Instead of answering questions, you distract us with random truisms.

This is starting to remind me of that one South Park episode, Chinpokomon.

Sorry for the harshness brotha but it's really important that you be as clear as can be -- spell it out. Right now your enthusiasm is drowning out the sense behind your "arguing." Trust me -- I know the pain that results from neglecting one's audience. Don't expect people to bend over backwards to decipher your "deeper meaning." It just doesn't work that way.

If you were to sum up your claims in a few simple sentences, I assure you, there would be less confusion.

I have no idea how much this is actually sinking in, so I'll take my leave from this thread. Good luck to ya.

so what now?u just walked in and critisized that i haven been distrating everyone and didn't even give a damn about ur examples that could take u whole night to pull up then ran away wishing me good luck? (sometimes i really hate thoes terms:good luck.sounds stupid.)
u said that i made irrelevant claims to my theory,but never had u explained why they were not relevant.u just said that oh they are alllll damn correct but just cant support the point,and then another example...END.is that ur logic.on the contrary,i v given the entire course of my deduction on "donnie had a thing with leo" this point.can u deny that u'v never seen that?
what's more,look at the reason u use:[Yes Don is way into science and inventing new things. He has great passion for it. Therefore...? ]perhaps u r that kinda of person who never pays attention to others when they were talking with u.i said because donnie is into science thus he has a thing with leo?or thus whatever?did i expond like that?u just have a thing with paying attention to what they say in other people's thread.
and then u began to asperse that i have been distracting u with tuisms.u think im long winded,u dont like tuisms but u dont even understand them urself,don't u think so?otherwise u would not barge in without a glance at my thread and randomly talk about my writting.while im just busy deciphering what sense my enthusiasm's drowning out according to ur really deep insight.
now if u would be so kind to drop by and give one clue...

[syd]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Jesus H Christ, that is so wow...

My point was why you even brought up my sexual life in the first place in response to a comment saying that maybe you ment Don was gay. That has absolutely nothing to do with my sexual life. Nor do I even want to know why you asked, let alone brought it up.

oh like i really care about ur colorful sexual life.
why did u tell us ur rabbit-like habit?for it's interesting to kno that i just asked u how many that word u have said.and u told me that u r rabbits.
u really got a good sense of humor.dude.

[Rooish]

Syd, I think I see why Spitfire666xXxXx interpreted your thread as Don having sexual feelings for Leo. At the very start you said you were going to prove that Don has "a thing with" Leo. Sometimes saying that someone has "a thing" for another person means that they have a crush on him. Saying that someone has a thing with someone else means that they are dating or fooling around or whatever. I was confused too; I kept waiting for you to give evidence of sexual tension between the two. Doesn't mean that anyone's obsessed with sex or that Spitty is a "chick killer" or whatever (although seriously, dude -- her roommate, too? Ouch. )

Now Syd, what I think you were seeing in that episode was evidence that Raph was trying to lead his brothers while Leo was gone, which is why he was so protective of Don and Mike (not that they usually can't look after themselves ). Probably for no real reason, Leo was distracted by his fighting with the mutants and he got separated from his brothers. Maybe there was a little distance between Leo and the other three when Leo got back, but it quickly dissipated.

I agree with LeonardoMystic's and Sage Ninja's interpretation of Don's and Leo's relationship. I don't think Don would ever want to lead; he is the perfect Number Two and would not be able to deal with Raph's and Mike's disobedience. I think he also tries to help Leo maintain his confidence as leader; when he sees flaws in Leo's strategies, I suspect that he pulls Leo aside to tell him, so that Raph and Mike don't hear.

Because Don is nice, and he knows Leo is a bit insecure about his ability to lead, Don probably keeps quiet when he thinks Leo has made a strategic error, and then Don tries to correct it subtly, so no one notices. This isn't a rivalry, it is Don's attempt to keep Leo feeling secure, even though Don might disagree with Leo more often than he expresses. (That's my theory, anyway.)

I wish they did show Leo's and Don's relationship more in 2k3, because I really like it.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by syd

oh like i really care about ur colorful sexual life.
why did u tell us ur rabbit-like habit?for it's interesting to kno that i just asked u how many that word u have said.and u told me that u r rabbits.
u really got a good sense of humor.dude.

And this thread really has not point, is in the wrong section and needs to be locked.
You also need to chill out a bit to other members when they don't understand a word you're babbling on about.
I also got the same thing Spitfire did when reading or at least trying to read what you wrote.
I gave up half way through and then asked you where you're from which makes allot of sense.
People are giving you the benefit of the doubt and yet you still treat them anger.
I also can see why spitfire would think you where talking like that considering you made sexual comments about characters in other threads that no one besides Zarius said anything to you about.

[Wanda]

Originally Posted by syd

and also impressive line from donnie himself ,in a confident and vigorous tone:
"good,my analysis is finished,i got a sample from the tip raph took out,something about the ooz is familiar,i compared it to...blah blah blah and i was RIGHT!"

(--)

thus he particularly pointed out (to leo) that "RAPH took out",he was drawing someone to HIS side.

Uh, English isn't my mothertongue and I'm not sure I understand what's this thread about. But I would like to try to bring a new point of view to this spesific part of the matter.

I do some writing myself, including manuscripts for puppet animations. I understand it the way that the line "(--) Raph took out (--)" was written in the story just to tell the audience where Don had gotten that ooze he was investigating. If I remember right, they actually didn't show us Don collecting any samples. So it seems to me a mere way not to confuse the observant viewers.

And I'm the kind of scriptwriter who just loves to write a bunch of little meaningless things in my movies...it's so Hollywood to me that every little thing is so significant to the major plot or something...like when someone drops a pen it's just that s/he could notice a bomb hidden under a table and stuff like that.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Ugh. Why is this still going?

First of all, if Don did have a thing for Leo...wouldn't that be incestuous?

Second of all, this has gone way off topic, if there even was a clear cut topic in the first place.

[Sage Ninja]

syd's point from what I can glean from all of this (putting aside the incest/gay aspect): Is there a some what of a rivalary between Leo and Don?

And I think most have of us are of agreement that there isn't one because Don is to nice and also confident enough in his own sphere of influence (science/engineering) to tread on Leo's territory, and vise verca.

oh yea...protecting his brothers his family,sure he will.but i really doubt that one as intelligent as donnie merely has so simple a side of his personality.as we kno,no one is perfect.one pays so much efforts in science,technology,almost everything,do u really believe thoes r all for his family?in ideal,it could be,but in practice,only God afford this.if i was 11 or so i probablely thought of him like that,no offence,but now i painfully can not afford that sorta logic

this portion I think syd brings up valid question. Is the mild mannered science guy the only side of to his personality? I think as fans have a tendacy to over simplify and stero-type our turtles by their most promominent defining characterists. I've noticed that Don is easily the nicest and most approuchable turtle in the bunch that lets every one be, but there has been, on occassion, where Don has used his intelliengce and obvious smarts in a mildly condensending sort of way toward the other turtles. In fact there are times where he can be pretty snarky. So he isn't just the nice guy that never sublely puts other down. However, it is rare and it's ushally only subtley done.