Tales of the TMNT 41

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by RAPH 'N' ROLL

I don't like the idea of the Turtles having sexual relationships with Humans, so I won't bother picking up this issue.
Probably skip next months issue as well, that's April and Casey's wedding right?
I'm not buying any more issues with poor art, that is unless the story is particularly good.
I like reading comics with art that inspires me and Tales is hit and miss, and so to will be my purchases.
Some more Ninja action please with added grit, and set in New York!

All of that sounds fair enough to me.

Is that too much to ask?

It's not. It's really not.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by RAPH 'N' ROLL

I don't like the idea of the Turtles having sexual relationships with Humans, so I won't bother picking up this issue.
Probably skip next months issue as well, that's April and Casey's wedding right?
I'm not buying any more issues with poor art, that is unless the story is particularly good.
I like reading comics with art that inspires me and Tales is hit and miss, and so to will be my purchases.
Some more Ninja action please with added grit, and set in New York!
Is that too much to ask?

This is extremely reasonable. And this is exactly why I refuse to give sympathy every time we get, "The comics don't turn a profit," thrown at us. Give us good comics that have content that we want and you'll make a profit.

[Scandia]

Though I am not too keen on the Turtles having relationships with humans, I like how deep Leonardo's love for Radical was.

I wonder when exactly did Radical's death happen. It was clearly in the distant future, given what Raphael looked like. But was it only 7 years before the actual tale took place? "Relatively young" is vague- he could have been in his 40s or 50s.

I liked the back-up story. I do think it takes place somewhere between the early issues of Volume 2.

[Andrew NDB]

Still no #41 in my box. Time to go to war with my LCS.

[Raph's Girl]

Finally able to read this book.

It was an interesting story. Somewhat metaphysical. I actually liked Leo and Radical's relationship. As Leo said it went beyond love. They stayed together for a year and then POOF...she's killed by a suddenly revived Carnage...I don't blame Leo going on a 7 year long sabatical.

Altho I liked the relationship I really didn't "feel" anything when she died....it was like..."Oh cool... Leo's getting some....oh bummer....she's dead..."

Liked the bit of continuity tho with Raph having the eye patch.

The Casey/Shadow story was short and sweet (did ya see the poster of Usagi in one scene? *L*). The guys trying to entertain Shadow was really cute (Raph was dressed as Batman! )

[Fugitoid Jones]

And this is exactly why I refuse to give sympathy every time we get, "The comics don't turn a profit," thrown at us. Give us good comics that have content that we want and you'll make a profit.

Exactly. I'm getting so sick of every other issue of Tales with "art" by Jim Lawson (more like "doodling by Jim Lawson").

Yeah, I didn't care too much for this issue. The relationship between Leo and Radical seemed to come out of left field to me, and do we really need a page that implies that they did the nasty to make us believe that they love each other? I dunno, I thought it was unnecessary. Plus, the artwork really didn't impress me much. I thought the back-up story was the best part of the issue.

[blue_angel99]

My copy came in yesterday!!!

I was pleasently surprised as I read this issue. I think the story was done perfectly.

Spoiler:

I nearly fell off my couch when I saw the kiss.

If you read past TMNT issues then you'd have a better pic of Radical's character. I like her alot and hope to see her in the cartoon! She can be a new memeber for the Justice Force!! (my imagination is going nuts right now!!

Leonardo's character amazes me; for him to actually want to forgive Carnage...only by God's grace could I forgive a person who killed one of my loved ones. The parts where he states how they were so in love and how they connected in so many ways (GET Yo MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER).....its very sappy but sweet. Who knew Leo was the charming romantic type?! (Don't get me wrong please, I think the turtles are cute like bunnies are cute. )

Anyway I highly recommend you read this!

[Andrew NDB]

Very surprised here myself: I really liked the issue. At its heart it's a very spiritual journey for Leo that becomes a revenge story with a suitably ballsy finish. The issue doesn't make me a believer or proponent or in any way an advocate of Turtles sexing up humans (and especially to burst open those floodgates, particularly with where hordes of fangirls have taken it in the arena of fanfiction... this was one rule I was really hoping Laird would hold to all the way to the grave), but the way it's presented here really doesn't bother me. We're shown that Leo and Radical develop a relationship, we're shown more or less the why of it, and then it becomes a revenge story from that point.

Fairly epic in its scope, and the art by Steph Dumais is a fine example of a sort of minimalist art without toning done right in the B&W form. What it lacks in any kind of toning it makes up for in a heavy embroidery of thick strokes of black ink, covering each page in heavy atmosphere and conveying well the emotions of the somewhat brooding Leonardo we have here.

Not bad at all.

And a very moving tale by Will Tupper at the end, and killer art by Mr. Kudranski.

Note: And just for giggles, I did some research to see if this "Steph Dumais" is a dude or lady. It's a dude.

[METALHEAD]

yeeesh....am i the only one who doesnt find turtles/humans disgusting? awh well...i like the comic...its actually my first tmnt comic

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

yeeesh....am i the only one who doesnt find turtles/humans disgusting? awh well...i like the comic...its actually my first tmnt comic

Your bestiality is your business.

[Buslady]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

yeeesh....am i the only one who doesnt find turtles/humans disgusting? awh well...i like the comic...its actually my first tmnt comic

dont worry your not. there's just alot of folks who think it's icky. I dont. they're bodies may be stuck in between turtle and human but their minds are human, they are sentient beings who are like any other person out there.

as for anything physical...man they could be creative in that respect. never say impossible...if a guy wants it, he'll get it..

I KNEW this issue would bring up alot of discussion. As usual I never understand the big deal, so Leo loved Radical, they kissed, they got down to it, so what. Let them be happy. Maybe Pete's loosening the reins and letting them live; it's cruel not to. Let them have some happiness if they want to have a gal to love....wonder how many Raph's shagged....*looks for his scorecard*.....

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Buslady

dont worry your not. there's just alot of folks who think it's icky. I dont. they're bodies may be stuck in between turtle and human but their minds are human, they are sentient beings who are like any other person out there.

as for anything physical...man they could be creative in that respect. never say impossible...if a guy wants it, he'll get it..

I KNEW this issue would bring up alot of discussion. As usual I never understand the big deal, so Leo loved Radical, they kissed, they got down to it, so what. Let them be happy. Maybe Pete's loosening the reins and letting them live; it's cruel not to. Let them have some happiness if they want to have a gal to love....wonder how many Raph's shagged....*looks for his scorecard*.....

I don't understand because while not crazy like nightwatchersfanfgirl your still in love with Raphael and it would seem if he was real you wouldn't hesitate to go after the guy or turtle or erm turtle guy.

[Rooish]

While the Turtles are drawn to look like humanoids, I don't think anyone would really want to have sex with a mutant turtle if he was real. I don't think it's immoral/bestiality because the Turtles are sentient, but I do think it's stupid to give the Turtles sexual opportunities with humans, because most people would not see the Turtles that way. That said, I thought it was handled well in this issue.

[METALHEAD]

Originally Posted by Rooish

While the Turtles are drawn to look like humanoids, I don't think anyone would really want to have sex with a mutant turtle if he was real. I don't think it's immoral/bestiality because the Turtles are sentient, but I do think it's stupid to give the Turtles sexual opportunities with humans, because most people would not see the Turtles that way. That said, I thought it was handled well in this issue.

Unless they fall for the turtle cause theyre' personallity....i mean face it, leo would make a good husband and father the way he is,

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Buslady

wonder how many Raph's shagged....*looks for his scorecard*.....

Raph's score card?... Mona Lisa (probably), Ninjara (possably), Mezcaal (most definatly since they were married...). Course none of em were really human.. Mona Lisa USED to be human..

Leo's gals have been: Lotus Blossom, Karai (er sorta), Radical, that human woman he was married to and had a daughter with in Tales of Leo (they slept together, they probably did it since she was clearly nude under the covers...)

Mike loves him some aliens: Kala, Seri (will we ever find out if those are his kids??)

Don will forever love April from Affar...

Splinter: Well... the Cat Queen/Goddess seems to like him alot....

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Buslady

dont worry your not. there's just alot of folks who think it's icky. I dont. they're bodies may be stuck in between turtle and human but their minds are human

Only in the original cartoon and Archies do they have any human DNA in there (being how the mutagen works in those universes works as a splicer). And in that, they don't screw anybody.

Except in fanfiction, of course.

wonder how many Raph's shagged....*looks for his scorecard*.....

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Raph's score card?... Mona Lisa (probably),

You made that up.

Ninjara (possably), Mezcaal (most definatly since they were married...). Course none of em were really human..

Which kind of makes their inclusion irrelevant.

Leo's gals have been: Lotus Blossom, Karai (er sorta),

You made that up.

Radical,

*wince*

True.

that human woman he was married to and had a daughter with in Tales of Leo (they slept together, they probably did it since she was clearly nude under the covers...)

A dream. Irrelevant.

Mike loves him some aliens: Kala,

You made that up, too.

Seri (will we ever find out if those are his kids??)

Don't forget Sara/Horridus from Vol. 3, too. And I bet they won't be his kids the way things were going last in Vol. 4... but it would be kind of neat if they were.

Don will forever love April from Affar...

In fanfiction.

Splinter: Well... the Cat Queen/Goddess seems to like him alot....

There you go.

[Buslady]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

I don't understand because while not crazy like nightwatchersfanfgirl your still in love with Raphael and it would seem if he was real you wouldn't hesitate to go after the guy or turtle or erm turtle guy.

Nope, can't. I'm married. I'm actually glad they don't exist, cos then he'd hafta deal with nuts like NWG and ROG....

As for Don...it is officially said that he has a crush on April in the 2k3 series. From afar he sees her in a different way.

In the comics, I see her as a sort of mother surrogate-which is clear to me in the story when he's trying to talk to the guys about their mom, and he's ignored, it upsets him greatly until he's alone and crying; April finds him and she listened to every word, comforts him ,etc--he then realizes who his mother is, she has taken the place. So thats where I got that.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I don't know which is creepier-- Raphael seeing April as a "mother" figure after he clearly had a thing for her in the first movie (which, multi-colored bandannas and Pizza aside, was VERY Mirage) or Casey trying to convince Raph in Tales #42 that one Olsen Twin is hotter than the other.

[VaughnMichael]

So I finally got this issue and while I don't care for the art the splash page of leo vs. complete carnage was cool...once again another issue that would have looked much better in color.
Also the issue about leo and radical I really don't see what the big stink is all they showed them doing is kissing.
Now if they showed what was going on in the tent I'd have been turned off by the issues but I wasn't I quite enjoyed leo's trips around the world.
And it was cool the know he moved to Cali.

[blue_angel99]

Originally Posted by Darth_CJJ

I don't know which is creepier-- Casey trying to convince Raph in Tales #42 that one Olsen Twin is hotter than the other.

Whoa... I hope April didn't walk into THAT discussion.