Did anyone else think the idea of turning Shredder into an Utrom was too much? - Page 2

*gobo* · 05-23-2008, 05:30 PM

He is though.

That's why I thought that thread suggesting he was a mad scientist was just plain laughable.

KellyLCrutcher · 05-23-2008, 08:50 PM

To Drtooth and odupianist: You mentioned "shredder was his title instead of his name;" and you're right. I meant to add a note on that myself when I first posted the thread, but I was multitasking when I hit the "post" button.

*Revan* · 05-23-2008, 09:51 PM

you can always edit a post after you hit that button if you think of something you wanted to add. I do the same thing often.

Fugitoid Jones · 05-26-2008, 01:43 AM

At first I objected to the thought of Shredder being an Utrom, but I think it was just shock over the idea of the Shredder ever being something other than human, and I quickly grew to like it.

Now, the revelation that there was a tengu demon Shredder before him from the Lost Season, that I could live without. That was too much for me. What are they gonna do next, reveal that the tengu demon Shredder was actually a creation from Kirby's pencil?

Bad Guys Lover · 05-26-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

Now, the revelation that there was a tengu demon Shredder before him from the Lost Season, that I could live without. That was too much for me. What are they gonna do next, reveal that the tengu demon Shredder was actually a creation from Kirby's pencil?

Now THAT would be too much.

The idea of Shredder being an Utrom bothered me at first, but then I realized it came like a refreshment and I accepted it. Although the human Shredder will always be my absolute favorite!

*Warhorse* · 05-26-2008, 11:45 PM

Shredder being a UTROM was not too much. But I thought The Silver Sentry and the city knowing about him was a bit overboard.

*ToTheNines* · 05-27-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

But I thought The Silver Sentry and the city knowing about him was a bit overboard.

That bugged me just a small bit, I thought was ok since it was a oneshot and took place of Mikey's micro-series adaption in season one (even though it came later). But when the justice force was on the news fighting the invasion...

*Warhorse* · 05-27-2008, 11:23 PM

^Exactly. What made the Turtles aluring is that they existed in out world, and are hidden in the shadows. Our world doesn't have superheroes flying around skyscrapers and being publicized on the news.

KellyLCrutcher · 05-28-2008, 10:48 PM

I think I worded it wrong when I posted the thread. Instead of "too much" I guess I meant to put "confusing as all getout." Oh, and amen, Warhorse! Women like us rock!

*Warhorse* · 05-28-2008, 11:23 PM

Of course us ladies rock! I've been called Warhorse since I was a preteen. I got into some pretty fierce fights and debates in school that carried on through adult hood. I dont get into physical fights, but verbally, I can still make people cry when my buttons are pushed.

One of the things I didn't like about Shredder being a Utrom, is for some reason, didn't make him so threatening anymore.

I think what could be cool, is that the Foot and The Shredder and Karai are actually fighting for a more evil being we haven't been introduced yet. Since we have superheroes and spirits, why not bring in some sort of god like warlord to wreck havok. Kind of like Sauron from LOTR or Darth Sidious (Shredder was akin to Darth Vader)

*odupianist* · 05-29-2008, 07:53 AM

They did. It was called the Tengu Shredder. Granted,they weren't working ofr him, but still...

Vincent · 06-19-2008, 03:52 PM

The only possible reason I can think of that they decided to make the Shredder an Utrom was because they were scared they might lose viewers (or run out of ideas) if they don't have the Shredder on the show. And then they realized how boring the Shredder got as an Utrom (Ch'rell cheapened everything that made the Shredder work), so they put him away and tried to fix everything by doing the whole demon shredder thing (which IMO totally didn't work). If they had just let him stay dead when Leo cut his head off (or simply done it as in the comics, where he was killed offscreen), there wouldn't have been a problem and all would've been awesome and the Shredder would have been remembered as one kick-ass human villain...but no, they had to flog that dead horse right into the ground.
But after all the crap that's happened since (namely Fast Forward), I must say Utrom Shredder was a relatively small shark to jump.
I'm slightly worried about Cyber Shredder though. Can't they just leave the Shredder behind and move on? There's always tons of other ninja. Karai, the Foot, former Foot elite, et.c., and there's always the possibility of bringing in new characters and threats.

*Revan* · 06-19-2008, 04:18 PM

I just wish they would have explained the worms a bit better in one of the episodes. Viewers who aren't familiar with the worms probably woudn't understand how ch'rell came back to life after being blown to bits

*ToTheNines* · 06-19-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent

The only possible reason I can think of that they decided to make the Shredder an Utrom was because they were scared they might lose viewers (or run out of ideas) if they don't have the Shredder on the show. And then they realized how boring the Shredder got as an Utrom (Ch'rell cheapened everything that made the Shredder work), so they put him away and tried to fix everything by doing the whole demon shredder thing

No way dude, watch season 1 again... there's all kinds of alusions to Shredder being an Utrom, it wasn't a shark jumping choice at all. And they didn't kill him cause he cheapened things, they killed him because they needed a big climactic finale for season 3.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-19-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

No way dude, watch season 1 again... there's all kinds of alusions to Shredder being an Utrom, it wasn't a shark jumping choice at all. And they didn't kill him cause he cheapened things, they killed him because they needed a big climactic finale for season 3.

That and the fact that it happend in the Mirage comics, well sort of.
People who know the comics know what I'm talking about.
Lordy noobs...

CudleyCowlick · 06-19-2008, 11:08 PM

I was a little weirded out, because I heard about it before I got into the 2K3 series, but now that I've watched it all, I'm in love with the idea.

It really ties all of the threads together.

05-23-2008, 05:30 PM	#21
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	He is though. That's why I thought that thread suggesting he was a mad scientist was just plain laughable. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

05-23-2008, 08:50 PM	#22
KellyLCrutcher Random Punk Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 20	Ever multitask and post at the same time? You skip something you wanted to add. :) To Drtooth and odupianist: You mentioned "shredder was his title instead of his name;" and you're right. I meant to add a note on that myself when I first posted the thread, but I was multitasking when I hit the "post" button.

05-23-2008, 09:51 PM	#23
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	you can always edit a post after you hit that button if you think of something you wanted to add. I do the same thing often. __________________

05-26-2008, 01:43 AM	#24
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	At first I objected to the thought of Shredder being an Utrom, but I think it was just shock over the idea of the Shredder ever being something other than human, and I quickly grew to like it. Now, the revelation that there was a tengu demon Shredder before him from the Lost Season, that I could live without. That was too much for me. What are they gonna do next, reveal that the tengu demon Shredder was actually a creation from Kirby's pencil? __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

05-28-2008, 10:48 PM	#29
KellyLCrutcher Random Punk Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 20	I think I worded it wrong when I posted the thread. Instead of "too much" I guess I meant to put "confusing as all getout." Oh, and amen, Warhorse! Women like us rock! Last edited by KellyLCrutcher; 05-28-2008 at 10:53 PM.

05-26-2008, 11:45 PM	#26
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Shredder being a UTROM was not too much. But I thought The Silver Sentry and the city knowing about him was a bit overboard.

05-27-2008, 11:23 PM	#28
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	^Exactly. What made the Turtles aluring is that they existed in out world, and are hidden in the shadows. Our world doesn't have superheroes flying around skyscrapers and being publicized on the news.

05-28-2008, 11:23 PM	#30
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Of course us ladies rock! I've been called Warhorse since I was a preteen. I got into some pretty fierce fights and debates in school that carried on through adult hood. I dont get into physical fights, but verbally, I can still make people cry when my buttons are pushed. One of the things I didn't like about Shredder being a Utrom, is for some reason, didn't make him so threatening anymore. I think what could be cool, is that the Foot and The Shredder and Karai are actually fighting for a more evil being we haven't been introduced yet. Since we have superheroes and spirits, why not bring in some sort of god like warlord to wreck havok. Kind of like Sauron from LOTR or Darth Sidious (Shredder was akin to Darth Vader)

05-29-2008, 07:53 AM	#31
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	They did. It was called the Tengu Shredder. Granted,they weren't working ofr him, but still...

06-19-2008, 03:52 PM	#32
Vincent Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 293	The only possible reason I can think of that they decided to make the Shredder an Utrom was because they were scared they might lose viewers (or run out of ideas) if they don't have the Shredder on the show. And then they realized how boring the Shredder got as an Utrom (Ch'rell cheapened everything that made the Shredder work), so they put him away and tried to fix everything by doing the whole demon shredder thing (which IMO totally didn't work). If they had just let him stay dead when Leo cut his head off (or simply done it as in the comics, where he was killed offscreen), there wouldn't have been a problem and all would've been awesome and the Shredder would have been remembered as one kick-ass human villain...but no, they had to flog that dead horse right into the ground. But after all the crap that's happened since (namely Fast Forward), I must say Utrom Shredder was a relatively small shark to jump. I'm slightly worried about Cyber Shredder though. Can't they just leave the Shredder behind and move on? There's always tons of other ninja. Karai, the Foot, former Foot elite, et.c., and there's always the possibility of bringing in new characters and threats. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHorFa22x3Q Hey, if Vanilla Ice and Partners in Kryme can do it, so can I.

06-19-2008, 04:18 PM	#33
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I just wish they would have explained the worms a bit better in one of the episodes. Viewers who aren't familiar with the worms probably woudn't understand how ch'rell came back to life after being blown to bits __________________

06-19-2008, 11:08 PM	#36
CudleyCowlick Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 721	I was a little weirded out, because I heard about it before I got into the 2K3 series, but now that I've watched it all, I'm in love with the idea. It really ties all of the threads together. __________________ THE DARKNESS AGE IS RETURN!