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Originally Posted by Roseangelo
I'm aware of all that, but why does Gary expect more effort to come out of his words at this panel than came out of the previous effort? WhY don't we now see Mirage providing the information and support to the fans to help them actually follow through on the effort? I lost all motivation behind my support of the previous effort and have not regained it. If Mirage honestly wants this to happen, they're going to have to do some footwork for themselves instead of relying on fans that they don't even like in the first place. I just found Gary's little attempt to rile people up laughable.
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Ah okay, I getcha, although I think saying Mirage doesn't like it's fans is a poor choice of words, as you're lumping EVERYONE at Mirage into that, and you know straight out that that isn't the case. I know from speaking to the documentary guys that Peter had tapes of the uncut version of the film and that he actively tried to get it put onto DVD, as was discussed a long time ago on his blog (or was it Murph's?) but it came down to the bean counters at Warner Brothers from what I understand. It's like the Batman movies -- when they first hit DVD, they had extras, but a lot of people knew that there were way more extras than what hit, and Bat-fans were doing the same as yourself in trying to get them out there (and I'm sure other sources were too). Warner Bros did the same thing with the Exorcist, and a heap of other films, and I know as a horrorphile that people were really fighting to get the Spiderwalk sequence reinserted into that movie, along with the extra sequences. We got the initial release for the anniversary, but then on the 30th anniversary (I think) we got the cinematic release with everything put back and the DVD shortly thereafter. It doesn't just happen with the Turtles, and you know Mirage does try to actively get things done, but often it comes down to the other parties involved. Look at what happened to the animated series and the recent toyline. At least Gary, Lloyd and Peter and the rest involved actually went and finished TMNT Forever and are now looking for ways to release it, same with the Vac-metalized Fugitoid. Remember the Lost Season? Wouldn't've seen the light of day if it weren't for the Powers That Be at Mirage. Wait'll you see what's gone into the documentary too! I'll admit, there have been some blunders along the way, but you can't JUST point the finger of blame at Mirage. I think Stephan has been rooting out the individuals involved in the Turtles at other key companies to get the bigger pictures on things, and from what I hear has been really successful in this. THESE are the people you need to get on the backs of, but MORE people need to do it in more pro-active ways.
Bottom line is, key people ARE listening, it's just that not enough people are talking. You look at how spread out the fanbase for The Transformers and even Ghostbusters is compared to the Turtles, heck, even He-man. They all have their key gathering points (like the Technodrome here) but I see folks from those boards EVERYWHERE, and it's really helped all those properties. Too few people from here venture out and talk in other areas to make the noise necessary to move things. I never see any Turtles threads last long in any of the other forums I visit or stumble across because it's only the one or two people over in those boards that say anything, and half of them are too afraid of coming over here because the Technodrome has a reputation for being a volatile place. This isn't just me talking here either, I had a number of people say this to me at the Con on the weekend. If even just a few 'dromers spread themselves out over the other forums, or made an effort to be more active outside of the 'drome, in a positive fashion, then I promise you, things would start happening, because the fanbase's rep would change and be far more welcoming to outsiders, which would lead to more and more people wanting to get involved. Right now, the only really active members of the fanbase are the very few (comparatively) that post here.