Complete movie collection on Blu-Ray in August?

[Roseangelo]

Tying into the lack of bonus features on this new set, someone at the TMNT panel last Friday at Comic-Con asked Steve Barron if he did, indeed, have all this behind-the-scenes stuff that we've all heard about. He confirmed that he did, but that still no one had approached him to make use of it. Gary then turned into a cheerleader, telling all of us to start a letter writing campaign to Warner Brothers to make it happen. I was like, "LOL, are you kidding me?" The people sitting behind me were like, "WTF? The new set coming out in two weeks doesn't have that stuff?"

[TristanHuwJones]

But here's the thing Rose, I know you're saying it's too late for something like that and that you spearheaded the campaign for it, but do you know just how many people DID actually stand up and do something? I keep telling people that if they want change they need to be more pro-actively vcal about it, but it just doesn't happen unfortunately.

[Roseangelo]

I'm aware of all that, but why does Gary expect more effort to come out of his words at this panel than came out of the previous effort? WhY don't we now see Mirage providing the information and support to the fans to help them actually follow through on the effort? I lost all motivation behind my support of the previous effort and have not regained it. If Mirage honestly wants this to happen, they're going to have to do some footwork for themselves instead of relying on fans that they don't even like in the first place. I just found Gary's little attempt to rile people up laughable.

[Samurai Usagi]

This is coming out on my birthday.. August 11....I will be 26....so I am mostly celebrating the Turtles 25th as well as my own... what a Nice PRESENT. I am getting this on the BluRay as well. I hope they have some commentary or some behind the scenes feature instead of just a direct port from the original movies.

[Roseangelo]

I just confirmed via Twitter that the only special features on the discs are the trailers for the original movies. The TMNT (2007) disc is identical to the one already released. So, really little reason to purchase either set if you already have the existing movies unless the BluRay transfers look fantastic.

[tone-master21]

DVD Empire has posted the Blu-Ray rear box art:

[TristanHuwJones]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I'm aware of all that, but why does Gary expect more effort to come out of his words at this panel than came out of the previous effort? WhY don't we now see Mirage providing the information and support to the fans to help them actually follow through on the effort? I lost all motivation behind my support of the previous effort and have not regained it. If Mirage honestly wants this to happen, they're going to have to do some footwork for themselves instead of relying on fans that they don't even like in the first place. I just found Gary's little attempt to rile people up laughable.

Ah okay, I getcha, although I think saying Mirage doesn't like it's fans is a poor choice of words, as you're lumping EVERYONE at Mirage into that, and you know straight out that that isn't the case. I know from speaking to the documentary guys that Peter had tapes of the uncut version of the film and that he actively tried to get it put onto DVD, as was discussed a long time ago on his blog (or was it Murph's?) but it came down to the bean counters at Warner Brothers from what I understand. It's like the Batman movies -- when they first hit DVD, they had extras, but a lot of people knew that there were way more extras than what hit, and Bat-fans were doing the same as yourself in trying to get them out there (and I'm sure other sources were too). Warner Bros did the same thing with the Exorcist, and a heap of other films, and I know as a horrorphile that people were really fighting to get the Spiderwalk sequence reinserted into that movie, along with the extra sequences. We got the initial release for the anniversary, but then on the 30th anniversary (I think) we got the cinematic release with everything put back and the DVD shortly thereafter. It doesn't just happen with the Turtles, and you know Mirage does try to actively get things done, but often it comes down to the other parties involved. Look at what happened to the animated series and the recent toyline. At least Gary, Lloyd and Peter and the rest involved actually went and finished TMNT Forever and are now looking for ways to release it, same with the Vac-metalized Fugitoid. Remember the Lost Season? Wouldn't've seen the light of day if it weren't for the Powers That Be at Mirage. Wait'll you see what's gone into the documentary too! I'll admit, there have been some blunders along the way, but you can't JUST point the finger of blame at Mirage. I think Stephan has been rooting out the individuals involved in the Turtles at other key companies to get the bigger pictures on things, and from what I hear has been really successful in this. THESE are the people you need to get on the backs of, but MORE people need to do it in more pro-active ways.
Bottom line is, key people ARE listening, it's just that not enough people are talking. You look at how spread out the fanbase for The Transformers and even Ghostbusters is compared to the Turtles, heck, even He-man. They all have their key gathering points (like the Technodrome here) but I see folks from those boards EVERYWHERE, and it's really helped all those properties. Too few people from here venture out and talk in other areas to make the noise necessary to move things. I never see any Turtles threads last long in any of the other forums I visit or stumble across because it's only the one or two people over in those boards that say anything, and half of them are too afraid of coming over here because the Technodrome has a reputation for being a volatile place. This isn't just me talking here either, I had a number of people say this to me at the Con on the weekend. If even just a few 'dromers spread themselves out over the other forums, or made an effort to be more active outside of the 'drome, in a positive fashion, then I promise you, things would start happening, because the fanbase's rep would change and be far more welcoming to outsiders, which would lead to more and more people wanting to get involved. Right now, the only really active members of the fanbase are the very few (comparatively) that post here.

[gobo]

^^ Exactly. While 50 million Elvis fans can be wrong, it's the way the world works. Popular vote always wins.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

At least Gary, Lloyd and Peter and the rest involved actually went and finished TMNT Forever and are now looking for ways to release it,

Wait a second! I thought Funimation was still doing this thing and just dropped the show! F*ck!!! I'm sure it will be out eventually, but it kills me knowing that it dosen't have a distributer.

Remember the Lost Season? Wouldn't've seen the light of day if it weren't for the Powers That Be at Mirage.

I hate that damn thing

You look at how spread out the fanbase for The Transformers and even Ghostbusters is compared to the Turtles, heck, even He-man. They all have their key gathering points (like the Technodrome here) but I see folks from those boards EVERYWHERE, and it's really helped all those properties. Too few people from here venture out and talk in other areas to make the noise necessary to move things. I never see any Turtles threads last long in any of the other forums I visit or stumble across because it's only the one or two people over in those boards that say anything

I guess you're right, but I only post here because I can talk to my friends/family about my other interests. If I knew three or so people who loved TMNT I'd have never even thought about joining this forum. There are some random forums that I've posted in, but I doubt anyone is a turtles fan, or even a potential one.

and half of them are too afraid of coming over here because the Technodrome has a reputation for being a volatile place.

We have some squabbles, but 95 percent of that stuff comes from the people that don't even talk about TMNT.

[TristanHuwJones]

Wait a second! I thought Funimation was still doing this thing and just dropped the show! F*ck!!! I'm sure it will be out eventually, but it kills me knowing that it dosen't have a distributer.

Nup. They have no idea what is happening with it. No one does yet.

I hate that damn thing

Maybe, but everyone loved it at the time and cried foul when they found out what initially happened to it.

I guess you're right, but I only post here because I can talk to my friends/family about my other interests. If I knew three or so people who loved TMNT I'd have never even thought about joining this forum. There are some random forums that I've posted in, but I doubt anyone is a turtles fan, or even a potential one.

Only one way to find out.

We have some squabbles, but 95 percent of that stuff comes from the people that don't even talk about TMNT.

Are you kidding me? There were a number of threads started in response to uncertain the future of the brand that put huge numbers of people off. I stopped posting for a while because it reached a point where I couldn't say anything remotely positive without being launched upon from all angles. A lot of the off putting stuff comes from how overly negative the most vocal fans became for a while.

[GK Punk]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Are you kidding me? There were a number of threads started in response to uncertain the future of the brand that put huge numbers of people off. I stopped posting for a while because it reached a point where I couldn't say anything remotely positive without being launched upon from all angles. A lot of the off putting stuff comes from how overly negative the most vocal fans became for a while.

To be fair, I've seen that much negativity on pretty much every forum I've ever been to no matter the subject. GI Joe, Wrestling, Music sites (Especially music forums.) It's hardly a trend just here.

And the only way to improve that attitude is to keep being positive. If you stop or just disappear, the negative wins.

[zkarlette]

I think that if the Mirage crew thinks were a bunch of nasty people they wont even try to listen to us or help add the extras

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by zkarlette

Blue rays are definetly better than DVD's the resolution is really amaizing the only problem I have encountered is that when you buy old movies on Blue ray format they only look slightly enhanced since they we're not recorded for a blu ray format ,they will never have the quality look as a new movie that is recorded to fit the blue ray

That's not true at all. Nothing is filmed for Bluray except stuff filmed with high def cameras and movies are not. Only a select few TV shows are filmed that way besides News and such. Film is a higher resolution then Bluray, always has been and will continue to be.

720×480 (520 lines): DVD
1920×1080 (1080 lines): Blu-ray
10,000×7000 (7000 lines): IMAX

35 mm original camera negative motion picture film can resolve up to 6,000 lines.

Sequences from newer films are scanned at 2,000, 4,000 or even 8,000 columns (line measured the other directions), called 2K, 4K and 8K, for quality visual-effects editing on computers.

35 mil is 35 mil. That will never change even if everything goes digital. So far only projection has because HD has yet to get to the point where it can replicate film. I don't think it ever will either but that's a different discussion.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by GK

And the only way to improve that attitude is to keep being positive. If you stop or just disappear, the negative wins.

Here Here!

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Are you kidding me? There were a number of threads started in response to uncertain the future of the brand that put huge numbers of people off. I stopped posting for a while because it reached a point where I couldn't say anything remotely positive without being launched upon from all angles. A lot of the off putting stuff comes from how overly negative the most vocal fans became for a while.

Yeah but in all fairness, 99% of the negativity that comes out of the camp is from the same 5 or so people.

[Jester]

Like me....I hate everything...wait that's not right...

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

Yeah but in all fairness, 99% of the negativity that comes out of the camp is from the same 5 or so people.

Whose being negative!

Spoiler:

I hate next mutation, the third movie, toddler turtles, the third movie, the coming out of the closet tour, and the third movie. So much so I don't even dignify them with the capital letters they are entitled to.

[Krang]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Are you kidding me? There were a number of threads started in response to uncertain the future of the brand that put huge numbers of people off. I stopped posting for a while because it reached a point where I couldn't say anything remotely positive without being launched upon from all angles. A lot of the off putting stuff comes from how overly negative the most vocal fans became for a while.

Do you really think the negativity is exclusive to this forum? If the Drome never existed and some other forum was started up in its place, do you think it would be any better? And before you answer that one, remember what happened on some of the official TMNT blogs...

My point is, I'm sick of people blaming these forums when it's TMNT fans in general who are the negative ones. To prove my point, I recently saw a conversation on another forum related to Turtles Forever, and rather than being mostly positive like it has been here, it was full of people complaining that it even existed.

And I'm sorry, but I don't believe in censoring people's opinions, so I'm not going to ban people or delete posts just for being negative (now if people are negative and they troll, that's a different story...). I don't know about you, but I'd rather post on a forum that has mixed opinions than on a forum where I can't say what I truly think about something without being banned or censored.

[Arcade Joe]

Well said Krang!!

[TristanHuwJones]

Originally Posted by Krang

Do you really think the negativity is exclusive to this forum? If the Drome never existed and some other forum was started up in its place, do you think it would be any better? And before you answer that one, remember what happened on some of the official TMNT blogs...

My point is, I'm sick of people blaming these forums when it's TMNT fans in general who are the negative ones. To prove my point, I recently saw a conversation on another forum related to Turtles Forever, and rather than being mostly positive like it has been here, it was full of people complaining that it even existed.

And I'm sorry, but I don't believe in censoring people's opinions, so I'm not going to ban people or delete posts just for being negative (now if people are negative and they troll, that's a different story...). I don't know about you, but I'd rather post on a forum that has mixed opinions than on a forum where I can't say what I truly think about something without being banned or censored.

Whoa, whoa! I'm not saying it's the forum, I never said it was the forum, or if I did my I may have crossed some wires. What I was saying was exactly what you're saying here -- that I know people avoided the forum because of a select number of people who posted regularly in a negative fashion on these boards, so when new people came here they were scared off by the very vocal negativity. What I'm saying is that the fact that so much negativity was floating around affected the boards from an external point of view. There was no offense intended here Krang, and I'm not saying anything should be censored, I'm just stating that for a period, the overly negative nature of some had a very strong resonance that affected the forum and the more casual fanbase that just happens to peruse the boards without signing on. I was told this by someone at SDCC not even a week ago, too!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, no extras, no buy. Not quite sure how the special effects are going to hold up at that resolution anyway. Ghostbusters looked terrible.

Originally Posted by Krang

I don't know about you, but I'd rather post on a forum that has mixed opinions than on a forum where I can't say what I truly think about something without being banned or censored.

And that's why we love you oh mighty leader.