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Old 11-15-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Super shredder

I watched SOTO today, and the logic behind Super Shredder had me thinking. I get how the mutagen changed Shredder's dna and made him more muscular, but what I don't get is ;

- How his increase in size didn't rip his outfit ( like the Hulk)

- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:17 PM   #2
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- How his increase in size didn't rip his outfit ( like the Hulk)
cause it's stretchy

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- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?
The plot said so

logic don't comply with a movie featuring vanilla ice
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:10 PM   #3
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Not to mention he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURTLES. He should've mutated into a turtle. Vanilla shell to be exact.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:19 PM   #4
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Dude, they just wanted Shredder to get more powerful in the movie.

Best not to think of these things, its not like the second movie had this serious plot or anything.
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:20 PM   #5
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Not to mention he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURTLES. He should've mutated into a turtle. Vanilla shell to be exact.
Seems like the rules of the mutagen in the movies operated more like the comics than the cartoon show. The ooze doesn't turn the subject into the being in closest proximity but simply increases their size and intellect (except in Shredder's case, doh!).
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:15 PM   #6
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Have you considered that it's a really, really, really awful movie?
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:27 PM   #7
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So, would he show up in another movie?? That would be sweet.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:47 PM   #8
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increases intellect (except in Shredder's case, doh!).
Actually, that's Dr. Perry's doing. In one scene (in the subway I believe) the doctor explains that he tampered with the Shredder's ooze so that any mutants he would create would experience no increase in intellect, thus making them a bit less dangerous.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:37 PM   #9
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Actually, that's Dr. Perry's doing. In one scene (in the subway I believe) the doctor explains that he tampered with the Shredder's ooze so that any mutants he would create would experience no increase in intellect, thus making them a bit less dangerous.
That's right!!! I keep thinking that Shredder drank a whole cannister of TGRI ooze, but in actuality he drank the vial he was going to pour all over that girl. Perry confiscated the cannister with ooze that hadn't been tampered with.

It ISN'T a sucky movie!!!

There should be rules here about movie bashing the way there are rules about not bashing the old 'toon.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:22 AM   #10
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No need to bash any TMNT movie or tv show..

Thats what Streetfighter was made for
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:44 AM   #11
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This is me stretching it a bit, but what if Shredder's henchmen got the rest of the donuts with the capsules in them (after seeing what happened to Tokka and Rahzar) and got them to Shredder after they rescued him from the docks? Therefore, he can show up in another movie as his normal self. Too ridiculous?
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:56 AM   #12
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I always thought that on top of the dock crushing him he also most likely had a heart attack.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:03 AM   #13
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- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?
Because we don't want him running around naked in town. But he survives falling through a window, but as Super Shredder he probably dies when the wooden structure falls on him in the seaport.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:50 PM   #14
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I always thought that it mutated the armor as well. I also don't think the wood killed him, he died of embarrasment. He couldn't handle facing the turtles after making a dock collapse on top of him.
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According to Internet Movie Database, the actor under the Super Shredder costume is Kevin Nash, TNA wrestler. I was shocked when I saw that, I thought it was a joke.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:55 AM   #16
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I always thought that it mutated the armor as well. I also don't think the wood killed him, he died of embarrasment. He couldn't handle facing the turtles after making a dock collapse on top of him.
If he died at all...
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:17 AM   #17
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According to Internet Movie Database, the actor under the Super Shredder costume is Kevin Nash, TNA wrestler. I was shocked when I saw that, I thought it was a joke.
Nope, it's not a joke. That's actually a pretty well known fact that he is. He's even talked about it in interviews back in his WCW days.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:26 AM   #18
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:34 AM   #19
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I just watched II the other day, after not seeing it since I was a kid, and I gotta say II is my favorite.


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Perhaps it works on an atomic level, so thats why his helmet and spikes got bigger.

plus its just a movie. and it would have looked so lame for Super Shredder to be huge but have the same small helmet and armor.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:35 AM   #20
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I just watched II the other day, after not seeing it since I was a kid, and I gotta say II is my favorite.




Perhaps it works on an atomic level, so thats why his helmet and spikes got bigger.

plus its just a movie. and it would have looked so lame for Super Shredder to be huge but have the same small helmet and armor.
The 1987 cartoon had also several cases where the mutagen seemed to affect the clothes.
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