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Old 04-04-2010, 12:53 PM   #1
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What were Eastman & Laird's influences?

Movies: ?

Comics:
- Ronin, by Frank Miller
- Dare Devil, by Frank Miller

Books?

others?
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:59 PM   #2
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Their chief influences were Jack Kirby and Frank Miller.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:22 AM   #3
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Hero and superhero

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Movies: ?

Comics:
- Ronin, by Frank Miller
- Dare Devil, by Frank Miller

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others?
A lot of hero and superhero stories of the 1970's and 80's.
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:48 AM   #4
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Don't forget the craptastic tv shows they were constantly watching.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:16 PM   #5
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Cerebus by Dave Sim was also a huge influence.
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It was definitely not a kid's book.
That was the thing that always mystified me about the turn the franchise took when Eastman and Laird licensed the cartoon and the parallel comic book published by the same outfit that gave us Archie. The turtles' original origin story? The whole thing hinges on a for-Christ's-sake rape-murder!!!!
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:09 PM   #6
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Go to the East warehouse over on Lairdman island. You'll find your answers there.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:08 PM   #7
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Go to the East warehouse over on Lairdman island. You'll find your answers there.
This post made me lol!
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:51 PM   #8
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Go to the East warehouse over on Lairdman island. You'll find your answers there.
This funny thing is that when I was younger I got out a map of NYC and remember looking for that darn island...
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:54 PM   #9
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you can totally see the frank miller influence through most of their run together on the book. And jack kirby pretty much influenced everyone & their mother.
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:00 AM   #10
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you can totally see the frank miller influence through most of their run together on the book. And jack kirby pretty much influenced everyone & their mother.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:39 AM   #11
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Don't forget the craptastic tv shows they were constantly watching.
*Don't forget all the weed they were constantly smoking.


Fixed that for ya.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:17 AM   #12
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*Don't forget all the weed they were constantly smoking.


Fixed that for ya.
Honestly? I can't see Laird toking up. I just...can't. He doesn't seem the type. Eastman? Sure. The rest of the Mirage Crew...why not. But not Laird. Can't explain it....he's too much of a "Dad".
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:35 PM   #14
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Star Trek = This is where all of PL's sci-fi stuff came from. He was a huge Star Trek fan and still is. The Triceratons are based on the Klingons.

X-men = Raphael was based on Wolverine.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:37 PM   #15
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The Triceratons are based on the Klingons.
Raphael was based on Wolverine.
Any sources or you just pulling that from where you pull most things?
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:45 PM   #16
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Their chief influences were Jack Kirby and Frank Miller.
Yep, Miller's Ronin and Daredevil were some of the driving influences.
And Kirby's art inspires everyone. This dude mastered the splash page
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:56 PM   #17
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Any sources or you just pulling that from where you pull most things?
The Star Trek stuff? PL is a massive Trekkie that's been obvious for years now.

If you mean the Triceratons I believe he answered that in a Ask PL blog around a year ago or some time, they were loosely inspired by the Klingons as well as his love for Triceratops dinosaurs.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:04 PM   #18
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The Star Trek stuff? PL is a massive Trekkie that's been obvious for years now.

If you mean the Triceratons I believe he answered that in a Ask PL blog around a year ago or some time, they were loosely inspired by the Klingons as well as his love for Triceratops dinosaurs.
I didn't quote the Star Trek bit, because I'm sure that much is true...Laird loves him some OS Star Trek.
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Couldn't be too much on them, though. By 1985 the only real Klingons seen were those in Star Trek 3... the TOS ones weren't quite the Proud Warrior Race they would become known as in the fandom throughout TNG and Star Trek VI yet.
add to that, as someone said, the Triceratons were created with the Fugitoid, not the turtles, and thus they are from even as far back as 1983.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:20 PM   #19
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And jack kirby pretty much influenced everyone & their mother.
Kirby's footprint a la New Gods is all over the sci-fi aspects of Turtles, as far back as Laird's machine designs and the wacked-out, high-level concepts of the D'Hoonib arc.
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