Talkback: Laird's 2k3 development notes! - Page 2

*plastroncafe* · 05-13-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher

The guy's doing his job.

Just looked through the notes on "Tales of Master Yoshi." I'm actually really surprised how involved he was the scripts, and how many logical and subtle character nuances he told them to add. Where are these kinds of dialogue and pacing choices in his Volume 4 work? (I actually love the premises in Volume 4, but not Laird's actual scripting.)

I get the impression that Laird shines best when he's part of an ensemble, and not say...solo.

Spacebabie · 05-13-2010, 10:49 PM

While those snippets were most lilkely part of a rough draft, it was nice to get a peak into "Nightmares Recycled."

*Ninjinister* · 06-01-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacebabie

While those snippets were most lilkely part of a rough draft, it was nice to get a peak into "Nightmares Recycled."

Except now it's gone.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it... the above link was just broken, is all.

*oldmanwinters* · 06-01-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Except now it's gone.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it... the above link was just broken, is all.

Thanks for the heads up! It should be fixed now. Must have been poor copy & pasting on my part.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 06-05-2010, 12:38 AM

It is cool to see where the writers where taking it but how we got more faithful adaptions and truer characters.

*Sabacooza* · 06-05-2010, 01:00 PM

After reading these, I've come to the conclusion that Laird is a complete douche. I mean I've know this for some time but his rude comments on these scripts make it official.

I can understand one being very strict, opinionated, and specific about ones property but there's a better way to go about pointing out mistakes and concerns than to be so insulting and rude.

Thank God this creep has nothing to do with TMNT anymore.

**Venom** · 06-05-2010, 08:35 PM

Stop posting and start coloring more Turtle art.

*Sabacooza* · 06-05-2010, 08:58 PM

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Stop posting and start coloring more Turtle art.

Oh I am but unfortunately it isn't anything I can show at the moment. Andrew also mentioned Frank's TMNT Spawn pages on the forum which I'm working on to.

**Venom** · 06-06-2010, 04:15 PM

Awesome, dude! Can't wait to see more.

agoaj · 06-09-2010, 05:49 PM

I really hope he puts one up for Return to New York or Exodus.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 09-05-2010, 12:29 AM

http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2010/...otes-from.html

I'm sorry if this is old. (Probably is.) Is this the closest we ever got to reading a script about this episode?

*Turo602* · 09-05-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2010/...otes-from.html

I'm sorry if this is old. (Probably is.) Is this the closest we ever got to reading a script about this episode?

Thanks for posting this. I always wanted to find out more about that episode. It was a good read.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-05-2010, 02:55 AM

It's difficult to disagree with much/any of what Laird was saying there. It sounded like a truly horrible episode.

*gobo* · 09-05-2010, 03:54 AM

I'm a little less peeved I'll never get the opportunity to see this ep now. That is some BAD writing. I'll finish reading sometime later... when I'm a lot more bored.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Warrior.

*Eiko* · 09-05-2010, 03:58 AM

Sounded like it was going to be a pretty silly episode.

*gobo* · 09-05-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Eiko

Sounded like it was going to be a pretty silly episode.

Oddly enough, even sillier than the rest of that season.

PAAATE · 09-05-2010, 04:20 AM

Well, the only other episodes this guy wrote before FF (never saw FF) was the clip show Reflections in season 2 and Adventures in Turtle Sitting in season 4. I dunno, AiTS was probably him inspired, and Nightmares Recycled was him uninspired and unbelievably high.

*CyberCubed* · 09-05-2010, 08:25 AM

Aside from the ep being bad, the way PL talks is so sarcastic and insulting that its actually funny.

I wonder if PL reacted that same way to all the episode scripts he was shown?

*Sabacooza* · 09-05-2010, 08:43 AM

If anything, the way Peter responded was rude. So the script was horrible. I get that but he could've conducted himself in a more mature manner.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-05-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2010/...otes-from.html

I'm sorry if this is old. (Probably is.) Is this the closest we ever got to reading a script about this episode?

Well, I guess this thread is a bit late to the party, since I started a catchall thread for all of Laird's 2k3 notes. But since it's been so long since he's posted anything it's easy to understand how people would forget.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30722

Perhaps a mod can merge the threads?

05-13-2010, 10:49 PM	#22
Spacebabie Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Conroe Texas Posts: 291	While those snippets were most lilkely part of a rough draft, it was nice to get a peak into "Nightmares Recycled." __________________ http://spacebabie.deviantart.com/ http://www.fanfiction.net/~spacebabie http://spacebabie.livejournal.com/

09-05-2010, 12:29 AM	#31
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	Whoa! Peter Laird's critique on the never completed Season 5 episode! (Sorry if old) http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2010/...otes-from.html I'm sorry if this is old. (Probably is.) Is this the closest we ever got to reading a script about this episode? __________________

09-05-2010, 02:55 AM	#33
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,506	It's difficult to disagree with much/any of what Laird was saying there. It sounded like a truly horrible episode. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

09-05-2010, 03:54 AM	#34
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I'm a little less peeved I'll never get the opportunity to see this ep now. That is some BAD writing. I'll finish reading sometime later... when I'm a lot more bored. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Warrior. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

09-05-2010, 03:58 AM	#35
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	Sounded like it was going to be a pretty silly episode. __________________

06-05-2010, 12:38 AM	#25
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	It is cool to see where the writers where taking it but how we got more faithful adaptions and truer characters.

06-05-2010, 01:00 PM	#26
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,994	After reading these, I've come to the conclusion that Laird is a complete douche. I mean I've know this for some time but his rude comments on these scripts make it official. I can understand one being very strict, opinionated, and specific about ones property but there's a better way to go about pointing out mistakes and concerns than to be so insulting and rude. Thank God this creep has nothing to do with TMNT anymore.

06-05-2010, 08:35 PM	#27
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Stop posting and start coloring more Turtle art.

06-06-2010, 04:15 PM	#29
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Awesome, dude! Can't wait to see more.

06-09-2010, 05:49 PM	#30
agoaj Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16	I really hope he puts one up for Return to New York or Exodus.

09-05-2010, 04:20 AM	#37
PAAATE Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 993	Well, the only other episodes this guy wrote before FF (never saw FF) was the clip show Reflections in season 2 and Adventures in Turtle Sitting in season 4. I dunno, AiTS was probably him inspired, and Nightmares Recycled was him uninspired and unbelievably high. __________________ I'm a member. I forgot about it, so now I'm a remember.

09-05-2010, 08:25 AM	#38
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	Aside from the ep being bad, the way PL talks is so sarcastic and insulting that its actually funny. I wonder if PL reacted that same way to all the episode scripts he was shown?

09-05-2010, 08:43 AM	#39
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,994	If anything, the way Peter responded was rude. So the script was horrible. I get that but he could've conducted himself in a more mature manner.