How did Shredder Chrell survive Secret Origins 3?

k_lala · 03-21-2010, 04:58 PM

Seriously, I was thinking back to Secret Origins Part 3. It was the episode where they were inside the TCRI Building where the building imploded at the end and Chrell was caught inside.

How did he survive that? It was never properly explained.

Also I liked how he had a different voice when he was Chrell, just the alien bug. And when we was Oroku Saki, his voice was also different. And finally when he put his helmet on his voice got even darker. In the Turtles Forever it stayed constant. I enjoyed the different levels of his voice. Even Karai's voice changed when she wore the Shredder helmet.

*ToTheNines* · 03-21-2010, 05:25 PM

I suppose the foot found enough of his flesh for the "bio-cite" worms to rebuild him.

And the voice thing bothered me slightly in Turtles Forever, I guess they just wanted him to be as threatening as possible through out the whole film so they ditched his little Utrom voice.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-21-2010, 05:49 PM

maybe he swallowed the voice changing device

*Turo602* · 03-21-2010, 06:44 PM

I thought the same thing in Turtles Forever, his voice was all wrong. He sounded like Shredder and not like an Utrom.

*gobo* · 03-21-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by k_lala

It was never properly explained.

Rewatch "Rogue in the House" Part One.

*Icebot* · 03-21-2010, 07:05 PM

Maybe Ch'rell got teleported from the transmat. He was just standing on the transmat when the building imploded, and that was right after the turtles activated it. The transmat probably just teleported Ch'rell, and a second later, the building imploded.

*Spitfire* · 03-21-2010, 07:20 PM

It was pretty heavily insinuated that he was a worm clone. He says "The worms are almost done healing me." but when the worms "healed" Shredder in the comics they ate his dead body and became him. Being it's a kids program they probably left that detail out but as a comic fan I'll assume that's what happened.

*odupianist* · 03-22-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

It was pretty heavily insinuated that he was a worm clone. He says "The worms are almost done healing me." but when the worms "healed" Shredder in the comics they ate his dead body and became him. Being it's a kids program they probably left that detail out but as a comic fan I'll assume that's what happened.

That's exactly what I assumed as well. The worms are clear as day. It just takes a bit more insight to make the connection for those that know the comics.

The Big Bad · 03-22-2010, 08:54 AM

Yeah, and to me, "Back to the Sewer" all but confirmed it. We know they have technology to more-or-less create monsters from scratch (the Shredder "clones"), and we know that they had the tech to preserve the Shredder's mind in a cybernetic back-up. Add those two facts, plus the fact that the explosion seemed to take care of everything, the worms, and that "Something Wicked" specifically flashed back to "Rogue in the House", and that's the conclusion that seems most plausible.

*CyberCubed* · 03-22-2010, 10:58 AM

Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

*gobo* · 03-22-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad

"Something Wicked" specifically flashed back to "Rogue in the House", and that's the conclusion that seems most plausible.

It did? o_O

*Coola Yagami* · 03-22-2010, 06:26 PM

Yeah it was the only time we saw Karai in Back to the Sewers, well I mean in her Foot outfit.

k_lala · 03-22-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Rewatch "Rogue in the House" Part One.

I think he first reappeared in City at War part 3 when Karai was first introduced.

~~megashredder~~ · 10-09-2010, 02:00 AM

He was cloned by His fot technitians and Stockman back to live.

~~megashredder~~ · 10-09-2010, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

Actully that'skind of make's more sence but. Who know.
thats the good thing about this show you can fill in the blanks your self.

*Xav* · 10-09-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by megashredder

He was cloned by His fot technitians and Stockman back to live.

Yeah but wasn't stockman working with the mob at the time?

*shuriken* · 10-10-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

I like the heavily mutilated idea.... I bet he looked like a a squid cut in half and covered in jelly. mmmmmmmm Jelly.

~~megashredder~~ · 04-29-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

Yeah but wasn't stockman working with the mob at the time?

Yeah your right. I think After secret origins Karai knowing shredder was dead and with the help of the foot had worms clone shredder from tissue samples they saved. And They gave him the memory they talked about saving in Something Wicked. Plus in City at war he said "Soon I"ll be myself again." And there were tubes in his head

TobTurn · 04-30-2011, 10:36 AM

I don't think Ch'rell was cloned. He was the same, but he was just heavily injured. He said that the worms had almost finished healing his flesh. It shouldn't have to be healed if it wasn't injured.

And for the voice-thing, his Utrom-voice already changed in Exodus. That's 4 years before Turtles Forever, so it's good that they did that. It was weird that it changed in Exodus, but it would've been more weird if it changed AGAIN.
It also made him more menacing, and that's what the creators were going for.
Ch'rell as menacing as possible and the 80's Shredder and Krang as foolish as possible.
I like him more with the menacing voice, as I can do an impression of that

PS. I just watched the clip where we see him again after the explosion, and he said: 'Soon, I will be myself AGAIN.' So it's the same Ch'rell.

**Jester** · 04-30-2011, 10:48 AM

Yeah, I agree. They started the "only speaks in Shredder voice" probably as early as Same as it Never Was. Kinda bugged me at first...but not really a big deal.

03-21-2010, 04:58 PM	#1
k_lala Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 413	How did Shredder Chrell survive Secret Origins 3? Seriously, I was thinking back to Secret Origins Part 3. It was the episode where they were inside the TCRI Building where the building imploded at the end and Chrell was caught inside. How did he survive that? It was never properly explained. Also I liked how he had a different voice when he was Chrell, just the alien bug. And when we was Oroku Saki, his voice was also different. And finally when he put his helmet on his voice got even darker. In the Turtles Forever it stayed constant. I enjoyed the different levels of his voice. Even Karai's voice changed when she wore the Shredder helmet.

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03-21-2010, 05:25 PM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,341	I suppose the foot found enough of his flesh for the "bio-cite" worms to rebuild him. And the voice thing bothered me slightly in Turtles Forever, I guess they just wanted him to be as threatening as possible through out the whole film so they ditched his little Utrom voice.

03-21-2010, 07:05 PM	#6
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	Maybe Ch'rell got teleported from the transmat. He was just standing on the transmat when the building imploded, and that was right after the turtles activated it. The transmat probably just teleported Ch'rell, and a second later, the building imploded.

03-22-2010, 08:54 AM	#9
The Big Bad Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 653	Yeah, and to me, "Back to the Sewer" all but confirmed it. We know they have technology to more-or-less create monsters from scratch (the Shredder "clones"), and we know that they had the tech to preserve the Shredder's mind in a cybernetic back-up. Add those two facts, plus the fact that the explosion seemed to take care of everything, the worms, and that "Something Wicked" specifically flashed back to "Rogue in the House", and that's the conclusion that seems most plausible.

03-22-2010, 10:58 AM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

10-09-2010, 02:00 AM	#14
~~megashredder~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 55	He was cloned by His fot technitians and Stockman back to live.

04-30-2011, 10:36 AM	#19
TobTurn Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 153	I don't think Ch'rell was cloned. He was the same, but he was just heavily injured. He said that the worms had almost finished healing his flesh. It shouldn't have to be healed if it wasn't injured. And for the voice-thing, his Utrom-voice already changed in Exodus. That's 4 years before Turtles Forever, so it's good that they did that. It was weird that it changed in Exodus, but it would've been more weird if it changed AGAIN. It also made him more menacing, and that's what the creators were going for. Ch'rell as menacing as possible and the 80's Shredder and Krang as foolish as possible. I like him more with the menacing voice, as I can do an impression of that PS. I just watched the clip where we see him again after the explosion, and he said: 'Soon, I will be myself AGAIN.' So it's the same Ch'rell. Last edited by TobTurn; 04-30-2011 at 10:59 AM.

04-30-2011, 10:48 AM	#20
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Yeah, I agree. They started the "only speaks in Shredder voice" probably as early as Same as it Never Was. Kinda bugged me at first...but not really a big deal. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656