The Leonardo Thread

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Jester

Sadly you're probably right. Donnie never gets any love.

Speak for yourself!

Honestly, I don't really mind Donny's usually last. It makes being a Don fan all the more special to me.

[Jester]

You're one to root for the underdog, ain't ya?

[Koi]

Mikey and Leo always seem to be the leads when it comes to poles. I usually only see Raph and Don as the lowest. Usually Don.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Jester

You're one to root for the underdog, ain't ya?

Heh, yep. I've been that way my whole life. When I was into Power Rangers (keyword: was!) I liked the Blue Ranger. In Ghostbusters, I liked Egon. In X-Men, Beast. You get the point.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

Heh, yep. I've been that way my whole life. When I was into Power Rangers (keyword: was!) I liked the Blue Ranger. In Ghostbusters, I liked Egon. In X-Men, Beast. You get the point.

Wow...I also liked Billy and Beast. Never watched The Real Ghostbusters, but I like Egon pretty well in the movies. Guess we're more alike than i realized...despite my being a Raph fan (though Donnie is a very close second.)

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Jester

Wow...I also liked Billy and Beast. Never watched The Real Ghostbusters, but I like Egon pretty well in the movies. Guess we're more alike than i realized...despite my being a Raph fan (though Donnie is a very close second.)

Indeed my friend!

[Krang]

Originally Posted by Jester

I'd really like to see that.

Here's the link: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4340

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Krang

Here's the link: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4340

Thank you sir.

Who is your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle?
Donatello (purple, bo staff) 25.55% 16734
Leonardo (blue, katana) 32.35% 21186
Michelangelo (orange, nunchaku) 20.93% 3708
Raphael (red, sai) 21.16% 13855
TOTAL VOTES 65483

[Donnie]

Michelangelo, last? Wow.

[FearlessLeader]

It makes me wonder because it's a video game board if this was based more on which character you enjoyed playing during the games?? Because I know a lot of people like playing Leo because he's easy to beat people up with

Because honestly I am surprised Mike is last

Not that I don't think Leo deserves the number one spot of course

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

Michelangelo, last? Wow.

Maybe it is based on the games themselves, as someone else pointed out, and not necessarily the character. Leonardo has always been the most balanced of the turtles when it came to fighting style (I noticed) and Donny was always good because of his long-range attacks.

Mikey is usually the fastest, but, his range is very short, just like Raph who's strong, but also has short-range attacks which meant playing with both were difficult and more of a hassle to use compared to Leo and Donny, imo.

[Julie]

It really SUCKS that Mikey takes the last place there, he's my favourite turtle.

[Weapon X]

Oh man Leonardo was my favorite as a kid, he had the blue mask, the swords, and....well I guess that's about it. I cant really think of why else I liked him when I was younger. I guess at that age character strengths don't really matter that much.

I think in the first two seasons of the original toon Leo is really cool. He has a deep commanding voice, he does indeed lead as the song suggests, and he just comes off as having a level head. Then Cam Clarke made his voice higher almost whiny and he was just there to "spoil the fun". I start liking him more again during the 7th season.

Raph has probably been my favorite for the last almost decade, all thanks to the Fred Wolf Series.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Weapon X

Oh man Leonardo was my favorite as a kid, he had the blue mask, the swords, and....well I guess that's about it. I cant really think of why else I liked him when I was younger. I guess at that age character strengths don't really matter that much.

I think in the first two seasons of the original toon Leo is really cool. He has a deep commanding voice, he does indeed lead as the song suggests, and he just comes off as having a level head. Then Cam Clarke made his voice higher almost whiny and he was just there to "spoil the fun". I start liking him more again during the 7th season.

Raph has probably been my favorite for the last almost decade, all thanks to the Fred Wolf Series.

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I agree about early Leo. He was more commanding as opposed to, "He ruined our fun" Leo, like they seemed to portray him later. I liked his deep voice in the earlier seasons. Anyway, like I started to say, not sure if it's true or not, but Leo was changed in this way to play up Mikey and Raph, as those two were the popular ones with the kids at the time. Can anyone here verify that?

[Bjarni]

Originally Posted by Krang

Here's the link: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4340

Ah crud... I was going to post a picture!

[Bauer536]

I recently just thought of this, and I have a question. I cannot recall, but when have we seen Leonardo cry? I remember he must have in the very first movie, but I’m stuck on the rest. Did he cry on the OT? Besides Raph, did Leo cry on the 2k3 series? Did he even cry on the TNM? I hope the writers can show that in the new series. Leonardo is a mutant, but inside, he is human. I’m just curious. Feel free to post any clips of this kind.

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

I recently just thought of this, and I have a question. I cannot recall, but when have we seen Leonardo cry? I remember he must have in the very first movie, but I’m stuck on the rest. Did he cry on the OT? Besides Raph, did Leo cry on the 2k3 series? Did he even cry on the TNM? I hope the writers can show that in the new series. Leonardo is a mutant, but inside, he is human. I’m just curious. Feel free to post any clips of this kind.

In Return to New York part 3 of the 2k3 show Leonardo cries:

Splinter is thrown from Shredder's Skyscraper and Leonardo leaps out of the building using a rope or grappling hook to dive down and swing from and save him. He swings over and lands on the roof of a neighboring building where he leans Sensei against a wall with his walking stick and then this scene plays out:

Leo: "You're going to be okay Master Splinter. We'll get you help. I will get the others."
Splinter: "No... Leonardo worry not! This is no longer about me."
Leo: "Master Splinter I...."
Splinter: "You must return to the battle, protect your brothers, defeat the Shredder. I will be there with you in spirit. Now go! Leave me."
Leo: "No Master Splinter!'
Splinter: "I know you will lead your Brothers well. My Son.....my son."
Leo: "It's going to be alright, we'll be back for you I promise just hang on."

And then you see Leo wipe away a few tears before he turns back towards the roof of Shredder's building with a growl. One of my favorite scenes from the series.

Leonardo in my opinion tends to get the most openly emotional when it comes to his Father. It could be joy when praised or showing pain when he doesn't live up to his expectation.

He doesn't cry, but it does make me sad when after Splinter's funeral one of the last shots in the comic is Leo just standing alone, staring out at the water looking completely lost.

[Julie]

Leo's definitely one of the most emotional turtles (along with Raph), he always cares for his bros and family in general, he finds his family more important than himself, he has a huge responsibility on his shoulders to protect them. He's always ready to kick serious ass when he finds out that his family and friends are in dangerous situations, even he's ready to sacrifice his life for them and i really feel bad for him for taking a lot of pain on himself! That's why he's my favourite + I've got a silly crush on him for being hot and so heroic LOLz. XD
But I disagree that Leo is always widly popular and liked by many people, unfortunately; I just hate it when he gets REALLY bad and hateful opinions towards himself by some crazy fans (mainly Raph and Don fans) almost for nothing (just b'cause he's too good or as if "the most boring" etc.). I think he doesn't deserve to be hated and bashed, but some of his mistakes should be a bit criticized.

[Bauer536]

Actually, I think Leo is popular in a sort of way. I remember asking about his fan-base to Dan Berger, who was part of Mirage. His response was, “It was pretty even all around, which is probably why the TMNT were so successful – there’s someone for anyone.” That’s why there are Leo lovers and haters, just like there are for the rest of the turtles. I, like you, get mad if favorite characters of mine are bashed.
Anyways, I saw the clip of Leonardo crying. I did not see tears. It almost looked like he was wiping his nose like he was having a cold. Plus Sinterniklaas’s voice tainted it a little for me. The voice is too much, and I think it’s not believable. I also don’t like the writing of the characters’ lines. To me after you say, “No Master Splinter!”, you don’t say, "It's going to be alright, we'll be back for you I promise just hang on." What Leo should have said was “Alright. I’ll go. . . I won’t fail you, sensei. Just remember, I’ll come back for you.” Sorry, sometimes I don’t like their dialogue, but the delivery wasn’t that good.
Plus, what funeral? Are we talking about the comic book issue where they burned Splinter’s body? I have that issue, and Leo does cry in the end. There are two shots of the tear that streams down his face.
Are there any other clips from any of the series?

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

Anyways, I saw the clip of Leonardo crying. I did not see tears. It almost looked like he was wiping his nose like he was having a cold. Plus Sinterniklaas’s voice tainted it a little for me. The voice is too much, and I think it’s not believable. I also don’t like the writing of the characters’ lines. To me after you say, “No Master Splinter!”, you don’t say, "It's going to be alright, we'll be back for you I promise just hang on." What Leo should have said was “Alright. I’ll go. . . I won’t fail you, sensei. Just remember, I’ll come back for you.” Sorry, sometimes I don’t like their dialogue, but the delivery wasn’t that good.

I have decided I am just no longer going to talk to you about the 2k3 show because I don't think our opinions are ever going to agree. But he was definitely wiping at his eyes and not his beak (Leo's a turtle I don't think he has what would technically be considered a nose) The shot is too far away for tears to be seen, but wiping at the eyes implies tears, I mean that's what I would be wiping away if I made the same motion as him.

Originally Posted by Bauer536

Plus, what funeral? Are we talking about the comic book issue where they burned Splinter’s body? I have that issue, and Leo does cry in the end. There are two shots of the tear that streams down his face.
Are there any other clips from any of the series?

Thank you for correcting me as that was totally my faulty memory at that part. I guess I just focused in so much on how alone and sad Leo looked in the last panel from that part that my brain forgot the two panel's before with the tear. Now it's even more depressing!