Are you OK with the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi again?

*CyberCubed* · 10-14-2011, 11:12 PM

Since we know Splinter will be the human Hamato Yoshi before mutation, its basically the same as the original cartoon and Archie version of Splinter...where he was a human.

This will make Yoshi and Shredder's rivalry carry through the series, but on the other hand it means Splinter isn't trying to avenge his dead master. It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior.

Personally I am fine with it. As I've always liked the old toon/Archie version of his origin too.

*Powder* · 10-14-2011, 11:17 PM

Sure thing, though I prefer Splinter starting out as Yoshi, it makes no difference to me. But he turtles gotta always start out as turtles for me.

*Slap-Happy* · 10-14-2011, 11:35 PM

This is one of the things I like about the new show. I really dig that they're bringing back OT elements.

EDIT: Should've read all the poll options, I prefer the rat origin, but like the human one too.

*CyberCubed* · 10-14-2011, 11:57 PM

I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there.

If Nick was the first time they were doing this, I wonder if it would cause as much uproar as "teen April" and such...

Stingray69 · 10-15-2011, 12:47 AM

Wow can't believe the votes yes I like this origin is getting haha. I'm fine with either but prefer the rat. And splinter very well still see the turtles as sons human first or not.

**Jester** · 10-15-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there.

If Nick was the first time they were doing this, I wonder if it would cause as much uproar as "teen April" and such...

Good point. Since FW and Archie already ran with the Hamato Splinter angle, it's an acceptable change. I don't know what we'd think if there never was a continuity where Splinter was Hamato Yoshi until now. I'm sure there'd be similar outrage, but would Nick have even made that drastic a change without the precedent of the FW series?

*Luzmagica* · 10-15-2011, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there....

Yes...I feel similar about this....
Anyway I voted 3º option : I prefer A LOT the rat origin, but I still like the human origin too....(well ...not so bad anyway....)

*Bauer536* · 10-15-2011, 06:40 AM

Considering this is different from the comic or film origin, I don't mind Splinter being Yoshi again. There's just got to be a plotline where Shredder thinks he killed him or something. What's bugging me is who the heck his daughter is going to be. If it's a girl named Karai, she better be younger than the turtles and not the daughter of Shredder's.

*plastroncafe* · 10-15-2011, 07:46 AM

I think the rat origin is problematic from an cultural/ethnic angle.

*Jephael* · 10-15-2011, 07:58 AM

I'm very excited to see how they show Yoshi's mutation into Splinter on the new show!

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-15-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior.

1987 TMNT cartoon Splinter still did.

cryan · 10-15-2011, 01:04 PM

I just think(story wise)Yoshi and Splinter being the same character makes more sense.I said this many times in the past but I just couldn't buy into a rat mimicing his master's moves in the first movie.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-15-2011, 04:30 PM

I chose option three. While I prefer him being a rat, him being a human isn't a bad thing as long as he's still a father figure and doesn't sit on the sidelines. I'd rather see him fight alongside his sons.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-15-2011, 04:36 PM

I'm only glad that this cartoon already had (the existing hardcore fandom aside) no chance of being seriously watched by anyone over the age of 5.

**Jester** · 10-15-2011, 05:14 PM

What? Andrew said something negative about a Turtle universe not the original Mirage comics...I'm shocked and a little dismayed.

*Xav* · 10-15-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

1987 TMNT cartoon Splinter still did.

I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

**Jester** · 10-15-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

Exactly. I was disappointing re-watching the FW series by how infrequently Splinter calls the Turtles his "sons." Mostly "friends" and "students"

*CyberCubed* · 10-15-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

He calls them his sons in quite a few episodes, you just have to pay attention.

He mostly called them, "My students" in the old show though.

*ssjup81* · 10-15-2011, 05:59 PM

I personally prefer this origin to the rat one. I always preferred it because to me, it felt like the dislike between Saki and Yoshi was more on a personal level. With the rat origin, it just felt way too indirect...and I still have a hard time accepting that a rat practiced martial arts in his cage and was able to teach it. I prefer Yoshi being mutated with a background of his former life (kind of difficult to write one about a rat, don't you think?) and it makes more sense for him to already be a master and makes more sense to me to have him train the turtles as opposed to a rat hell-bent on getting revenge for his owner.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-15-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

(kind of difficult to write one about a rat, don't you think?)

What a strange question to post to the TMNT fandom.

View Poll Results: Are you fine with Splinter being Hamato Yoshi?
Yes, I like this origin	36	43.90%
No, he should be a rat like the Mirage/4kids/Movie origins	15	18.29%
I prefer the rat origin, but I still like the human origin too	31	37.80%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

10-14-2011, 11:12 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,831	Are you OK with the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi again? Since we know Splinter will be the human Hamato Yoshi before mutation, its basically the same as the original cartoon and Archie version of Splinter...where he was a human. This will make Yoshi and Shredder's rivalry carry through the series, but on the other hand it means Splinter isn't trying to avenge his dead master. It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior. Personally I am fine with it. As I've always liked the old toon/Archie version of his origin too.

10-15-2011, 07:58 AM	#10
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I'm very excited to see how they show Yoshi's mutation into Splinter on the new show! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

10-15-2011, 04:30 PM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I chose option three. While I prefer him being a rat, him being a human isn't a bad thing as long as he's still a father figure and doesn't sit on the sidelines. I'd rather see him fight alongside his sons. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-15-2011, 04:36 PM	#14
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,481	I'm only glad that this cartoon already had (the existing hardcore fandom aside) no chance of being seriously watched by anyone over the age of 5. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-14-2011, 11:17 PM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Sure thing, though I prefer Splinter starting out as Yoshi, it makes no difference to me. But he turtles gotta always start out as turtles for me.

10-14-2011, 11:35 PM	#3
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	This is one of the things I like about the new show. I really dig that they're bringing back OT elements. EDIT: Should've read all the poll options, I prefer the rat origin, but like the human one too.

10-14-2011, 11:57 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,831	I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there. If Nick was the first time they were doing this, I wonder if it would cause as much uproar as "teen April" and such...

10-15-2011, 12:47 AM	#5
Stingray69 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 916	Wow can't believe the votes yes I like this origin is getting haha. I'm fine with either but prefer the rat. And splinter very well still see the turtles as sons human first or not.

10-15-2011, 06:40 AM	#8
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	Considering this is different from the comic or film origin, I don't mind Splinter being Yoshi again. There's just got to be a plotline where Shredder thinks he killed him or something. What's bugging me is who the heck his daughter is going to be. If it's a girl named Karai, she better be younger than the turtles and not the daughter of Shredder's.

10-15-2011, 01:04 PM	#12
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	I just think(story wise)Yoshi and Splinter being the same character makes more sense.I said this many times in the past but I just couldn't buy into a rat mimicing his master's moves in the first movie.

10-15-2011, 05:14 PM	#15
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	What? Andrew said something negative about a Turtle universe not the original Mirage comics...I'm shocked and a little dismayed. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-15-2011, 05:59 PM	#19
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I personally prefer this origin to the rat one. I always preferred it because to me, it felt like the dislike between Saki and Yoshi was more on a personal level. With the rat origin, it just felt way too indirect...and I still have a hard time accepting that a rat practiced martial arts in his cage and was able to teach it. I prefer Yoshi being mutated with a background of his former life (kind of difficult to write one about a rat, don't you think?) and it makes more sense for him to already be a master and makes more sense to me to have him train the turtles as opposed to a rat hell-bent on getting revenge for his owner.