Infestation 2 affecting TMNT - Page 4

Toby Barrett · 11-20-2011, 03:41 PM

*Powder* · 11-20-2011, 04:19 PM

Well if I may be so blunt, that's f*cking WACK.

Thanks for the link, Toby.

TristanHuwJones · 11-20-2011, 04:22 PM

Why is that?

*Powder* · 11-20-2011, 04:27 PM

I thought we were actually going to have a series that stayed true to its roots rather than compromise to attract the attention of TMNT "fans" who haven't given a sh*t in ages anyway that will buy one issue to feel old-school, complain about the lack of cowabunga and then forget the series again. I understand that it is implied that they will alternate between the two bandana styles, but still, for me it the decision to go red was to make a very important distinction between adult TMNT and kid TMNT. Those lines are slowly getting blurred, though, and it ticks me off. It's not to say the book won't continue to be of quality but that definitely takes some points off from my view of it.

Toby Barrett · 11-20-2011, 04:34 PM

I think it's only going to be for the two Infested issues however.

*Powder* · 11-20-2011, 04:36 PM

If so, it eases my fanboy rage a bit. I just fear that the day will come when the rainbow appeal comes in full swing.
It's fine for the cartoons, and even certain comics (like Archie, toon spinoff stuff) & films, but I hope this line stays "ours".

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2011, 04:57 PM

Yikes. And double-yikes. (at the color bandannas)

They had me going, too... I thought IDW might actually be trying to make them a legitimate ninja clan. IDW doing a bait-and-switch with the rainbow/toy/merch color coding bandannas would be a huge blow.

Toby Barrett · 11-20-2011, 05:02 PM

We'll just have to see what happens.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-20-2011, 05:06 PM

Oh, yeah, personally I just can't take Wolverine seriously when he's wearing his yellow-and-blue costume. For me it's yellow-and-brown or NO SALE!!!

If I wanted "kiddie comics," I'd go read Darkwing Duck or something...

...

Spoiler:

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Oh, yeah, personally I just can't take Wolverine seriously when he's wearing his yellow-and-blue costume. For me it's yellow-and-brown or NO SALE!!!

Yeah, that makes Wolverine's ninja clan a farce!

Oh wait...

TristanHuwJones · 11-20-2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Oh, yeah, personally I just can't take Wolverine seriously when he's wearing his yellow-and-blue costume. For me it's yellow-and-brown or NO SALE!!!

If I wanted "kiddie comics," I'd go read Darkwing Duck or something...

...

Spoiler:

This is pretty much the way it is. I haven't written the characters any differently to how I would any other day of the week. You could recolor my Mirage stuff with colored bandanas and it wouldn't change those stories in any way whatsoever.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-20-2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, that makes Wolverine's ninja clan a farce!

Oh wait...

This is off-subject, but I recently read the Claremont-Miller Wolverine mini-series for the first time. I really enjoyed seeing the formation of Wolverine's modern characterization. Thumbs up for classic 80s comics!

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

This is pretty much the way it is. I haven't written the characters any differently to how I would any other day of the week. You could recolor my Mirage stuff with colored bandanas and it wouldn't change those stories in any way whatsoever.

Apart from doing so being, 1. Apocryphal, 2. A subtraction of major credibility points from the ninja clan they're supposed to represent. And oh yeah, 3. Completely needless.

Though we can appreciate you towing the company line in this.

*ToTheNines* · 11-20-2011, 05:43 PM

Like I said over at the IDW forum, I feel that Tristan should be above prejudice.

If you don't like it when you read it: fine. But until then, just remember the kick ass stories we've gotten from him, without any stinkers to go along with them.

TristanHuwJones · 11-20-2011, 06:03 PM

"like"

Also, needing ten characters can die.

**Jester** · 11-20-2011, 06:04 PM

I agree. Tristan's writing is more important than the color-coded headbands. Yeah, it's a annoying that it seems like a cash grab from people who only know the Turtles by their color coded masks, but I know Tristan can write these characters.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2011, 06:12 PM

I don't think Tristan's ability to write the TMNT is really relevant to the matter. Yes, he can write some kick-ass TMNT, even within some pre-set parameters.

It's the value of those pre-set parameters that I think is on the table at the moment.

Toby Barrett · 11-20-2011, 06:14 PM

And besides, you don't even have to read this story if it upsets you that much. I mean, it's not like in issue #12 the turtles will be saying "Woah man, remember when we totally fought Cthulhu? That was totally tubuloso!"

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2011, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

And besides, you don't even have to read this story

From the sound of things it's seeming pretty sure that we're looking at Phase II of the IDW TMNT: the Turtles put on the rainbow bandannas at some point down the line after they reunite with Raphael... and it won't just be a one-off thing for Infestation 2.

**Jester** · 11-20-2011, 06:21 PM

I'm now seriously contemplating recoloring the issues IDW has already released, just to prove a point. Do the multicolored bandanas really affect the story? If IDW had started using them since day one, would we (Andrew aside) be having this conversation? I'm not happy about the apparently very arbitrary decision that this crossover needs the color code, but I'll get over it.

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11-20-2011, 04:57 PM	#67
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,309	Yikes. And double-yikes. (at the color bandannas) They had me going, too... I thought IDW might actually be trying to make them a legitimate ninja clan. IDW doing a bait-and-switch with the rainbow/toy/merch color coding bandannas would be a huge blow. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-20-2011, 05:06 PM	#69
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,463	Oh, yeah, personally I just can't take Wolverine seriously when he's wearing his yellow-and-blue costume. For me it's yellow-and-brown or NO SALE!!! If I wanted "kiddie comics," I'd go read Darkwing Duck or something... ... Spoiler: sarcasm latent __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

11-20-2011, 06:03 PM	#75
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	"like" Also, needing ten characters can die. __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

11-20-2011, 04:19 PM	#62
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Well if I may be so blunt, that's f*cking WACK. Thanks for the link, Toby.

11-20-2011, 04:27 PM	#64
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	I thought we were actually going to have a series that stayed true to its roots rather than compromise to attract the attention of TMNT "fans" who haven't given a sh*t in ages anyway that will buy one issue to feel old-school, complain about the lack of cowabunga and then forget the series again. I understand that it is implied that they will alternate between the two bandana styles, but still, for me it the decision to go red was to make a very important distinction between adult TMNT and kid TMNT. Those lines are slowly getting blurred, though, and it ticks me off. It's not to say the book won't continue to be of quality but that definitely takes some points off from my view of it.

11-20-2011, 04:34 PM	#65
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	I think it's only going to be for the two Infested issues however.

11-20-2011, 04:36 PM	#66
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	If so, it eases my fanboy rage a bit. I just fear that the day will come when the rainbow appeal comes in full swing. It's fine for the cartoons, and even certain comics (like Archie, toon spinoff stuff) & films, but I hope this line stays "ours".

11-20-2011, 05:02 PM	#68
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	We'll just have to see what happens.

11-20-2011, 05:43 PM	#74
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,135	Like I said over at the IDW forum, I feel that Tristan should be above prejudice. If you don't like it when you read it: fine. But until then, just remember the kick ass stories we've gotten from him, without any stinkers to go along with them.

11-20-2011, 06:04 PM	#76
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	I agree. Tristan's writing is more important than the color-coded headbands. Yeah, it's a annoying that it seems like a cash grab from people who only know the Turtles by their color coded masks, but I know Tristan can write these characters. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-20-2011, 06:12 PM	#77
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,309	I don't think Tristan's ability to write the TMNT is really relevant to the matter. Yes, he can write some kick-ass TMNT, even within some pre-set parameters. It's the value of those pre-set parameters that I think is on the table at the moment. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-20-2011, 06:14 PM	#78
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	And besides, you don't even have to read this story if it upsets you that much. I mean, it's not like in issue #12 the turtles will be saying "Woah man, remember when we totally fought Cthulhu? That was totally tubuloso!"

11-20-2011, 06:21 PM	#80
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	I'm now seriously contemplating recoloring the issues IDW has already released, just to prove a point. Do the multicolored bandanas really affect the story? If IDW had started using them since day one, would we (Andrew aside) be having this conversation? I'm not happy about the apparently very arbitrary decision that this crossover needs the color code, but I'll get over it. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656