New IDW collection for non-Eastman/Laird Vol. 1 issues - Page 3

*CyberCubed* · 01-22-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Well, this isn't my ideal way of seeing the stories collected, but I'm still thrilled that IDW is getting them out there PERIOD. The more product, the better.

Its ideal for me. Its too expensive to give everything an oversized hardcover, so saving the "deluxe" treatment for only Eastman/Laird issues is fine.

And the best part is #13, 16 and 18 are being released right around the time the third collection comes out (#12-#21), so nothing is skipped and it all fits right in. The fact that they're even including the bizarre #16 shows IDW isn't skipping any issues for the hell of it.

I do kinda wish Dooney's issue was including in the hardcover, but I suppose seeing it in color instead will make up for it.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-22-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I wonder if they'll all have red headbands in this book or not...

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Originally Posted by Powder

You've just made me cautiously PISSED.

If they turn these Mirage issues into rainbow brite I am going to urinate on everybody.

No way they'd mess with that in the actual Mirage books themselves. I'm not worried.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 01-23-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Looks like #13, 16, and #18 of Vol. 1 won't be "skipped" for long, they'll just be released in a separate format:

http://www.amazon.ca/Teenage-Mutant-...g_hu-rd_dp_img

The original stories of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles come roaring back to shelves - in all-new, full color - with the line of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Classics trade paperbacks! Volume 1 contains Mirage Studios' issues #13, 16, and 18 - showcasing favorite tales like "The Peoples Choice," "A TMNT Time Tale," and "The Shell of the Dragon."

They're going to be in color...for #18 that doesn't surprise me as that WAS released in color back in the day, but were the other two?

I'll get this

Thorneyeagle · 01-24-2012, 08:01 AM

*edit* nevermind

mittens4kittens · 01-24-2012, 08:42 AM

cool stuff!!!

*CyberCubed* · 01-24-2012, 08:46 PM

Hm, the next collection after, if they go in order, would be #22 and 23...which are hated in the fandom.

Perhaps they should skip those two and go straight to "The River" or issues #27-28.

DK2 · 01-24-2012, 11:01 PM

I'm not crazy about this trades content, nothing against it coming out. But I do hate the one issue. But if IDW is really committed to this, then by all means do it. The fact its gonna be in color makes it a little more appealing. But the page count pretty much matches the typical IDW trade, 4-5 issues. But since the Mirage stuff were longer comics, thats why we get 3 issues.
I agree too that some sortta creator/theme is the more logical approach for the collections, but whatever. Their calling them "classics", so what the hell. The Ult. Vol. 3 HC is cool too. Ending it off with the Eastman & Laird solo/last works. Did Peter Laird really contribute to the annecdotes? I don't have the Ult. Book 1 HC so I don 't know.
Is IDW really doing an Archie TMNT trade/collection of any sort? Thought I'd ask as its seems to be mentioned by others.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-25-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Hm, the next collection after, if they go in order, would be #22 and 23...which are hated in the fandom.

Agreed, though the damage is kind of done at this point... in for a penny, in for a pound, after putting out #16. It's just a pity they don't include more issues per trade... if there were more quality issues per trade to offset the silliness of the Martin stuff it wouldn't be as detrimental.

*CyberCubed* · 01-25-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Agreed, though the damage is kind of done at this point... in for a penny, in for a pound, after putting out #16. It's just a pity they don't include more issues per trade... if there were more quality issues per trade to offset the silliness of the Martin stuff it wouldn't be as detrimental.

#16 was still pretty standalone though. When that issue first came out it didn't seem like it was part of a trilogy. I remember reading it for the first time back in the early 2000's and not knowing there were two sequels to it. People also feel that issue was somewhat enjoyable, unlike the other two.

I can see them skipping them, at least at first.

Matches Malone · 01-25-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DK2

I'm not crazy about this trades content, nothing against it coming out. But I do hate the one issue. But if IDW is really committed to this, then by all means do it. The fact its gonna be in color makes it a little more appealing. But the page count pretty much matches the typical IDW trade, 4-5 issues. But since the Mirage stuff were longer comics, thats why we get 3 issues.
I agree too that some sortta creator/theme is the more logical approach for the collections, but whatever. Their calling them "classics", so what the hell. The Ult. Vol. 3 HC is cool too. Ending it off with the Eastman & Laird solo/last works. Did Peter Laird really contribute to the annecdotes? I don't have the Ult. Book 1 HC so I don 't know.
Is IDW really doing an Archie TMNT trade/collection of any sort? Thought I'd ask as its seems to be mentioned by others.

Peter Laird did indeed contribute to the annotations, though considerably less than Kevin Eastman, and not for every issue. The annotations sections are interesting enough to make the (re)purchase worthwhile, I think. Eastman's annotations are pretty hefty which makes sense since he's working fairly closely with IDW at this point.

IDW also is release Archie material starting with the first 3 issue adaption of the first season of the Fred Wolf cartoon. Looks like they are starting to reveal their game plan, releasing TMNT from 3 different fronts (Archie, Eastman/Laird, and "guest artist" Mirage). This is pretty encouraging, I think, though a more official word on their plans for this year would be nice.

DK2 · 01-25-2012, 01:52 AM

I only cherished the Mirage comics TMNT. The Archie stuff I never ever got into despite the old cartoon coming along back then. But in my humble sense of wanting to diversify in TMNT readings, I will most likely try out the reprints after the initial 3 issue adaptation. I did get the Mirage Future Tense trade and didn't mind most of it. Its just as most TMNT fans have stated in one other thread or two, Mirage TMNT stories really doesn't amount to a whole lot after Vol. 1, Vol. 2, Vol. 4. Especially since the last 2 vol.'s were so slow and stretched out in story pacing. We coulda had more stories if they put the heart into it. The two Tales of TMNT series were of little much more extra stories. Most didn't really mean too much in the general overall canon. The Image Vol.3 run was really the highlight and maybe Bodycount. What TMNT action should be more like.
So the IDW TMNT title and any TMNTA reprints could be good for me.

*CyberCubed* · 01-25-2012, 07:58 PM

I gather the only reason we're getting an Archie trade is because the book is already done. It came out back in 2009. All they're doing is scrubbing off the "25th anniversary" logo and that's it.

If they start putting together NEW Archie trades, I imagine it will take a while.

Metropoliskid41 · 01-27-2012, 08:55 AM

Yeah that's a good point Cybercubed. It may be another 6-9 months after the 1st Archie trade before we see another one.

Its no secret that the TMNT property has been very successful for IDW already, its their top selling book, and the 1st collected edition they made sold out at the distributor level while toting a pretty hefty price (very much worth it imo), how long do you think it'll be before we see one of the previous comic incarnations of the Turtles continued? They have done it for GI JOE Real American Hero which continues the original Marvel GI JOE run, as well as for the upcoming continuation of the original Trans Formers Marvel comic. One would assume they would try the same with TMNT if the popularity continues. I assume 99% of fans would love to see volume 4 continued, but that would all depend on Laird's willinginess to work for IDW.

Realistically what series do you see a better chance of getting continued? Will Peter come around so Mirage can be continued, or do you see the Archie series getting the nod and continued? I know a lot of fans felt Archie never really had a proper ending that left them feeling the story was continued.

*Roseangelo* · 01-27-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41

Yeah that's a good point Cybercubed. It may be another 6-9 months after the 1st Archie trade before we see another one.

Bobby Curnow has given some tentative info on upcoming TMNT releases over on the IDW board. I've summed it up on Ninja Pizza. IDW is about to get aggressive with their TMNT releases.

*CyberCubed* · 01-27-2012, 11:04 AM

I am not sure I like the idea of colorizing all the Volume 1 issues. But I suppose they think they'll sell better since they aren't in the oversized volumes.

*Powder* · 01-27-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I am not sure I like the idea of colorizing all the Volume 1 issues. But I suppose they think they'll sell better since they aren't in the oversized volumes.

I'd probably agree normally, but I've seen them in black & white so much more than I have in color.
Maybe they'll do a really killer job on it. Besides, this time around we'll see color in books that never had it before.

*Slap-Happy* · 01-27-2012, 01:57 PM

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HOWEVER, we do plan to release those issues found in the Ultimate Editions on an individual, month by month basis, as stand alone floppies that are colored. The idea being if you want the 'pure, unfiltered' Mirage early stories, you go to the Ultimate Collection. But if you want something new, at a lower price point, there's the floppies, hopefully covering everyone.

Well, I guess this means some more people will be discovering the Mirage books.

Excited to see how they'll look.

*Redrumh2o* · 01-27-2012, 05:03 PM

So the "Ultimate" editions are still going to be the only hardcover ones....right??

*DrSpengler* · 01-27-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Bobby Curnow has given some tentative info on upcoming TMNT releases over on the IDW board. I've summed it up on Ninja Pizza. IDW is about to get aggressive with their TMNT releases.

Very excited to hear about that, particularly the paperback releases of the Mirage material and the continued Archie releases.

Gonna be a good year.

*CyberCubed* · 01-27-2012, 10:34 PM

What I don't get is if the stuff from the Eastman/Laird collections will be re-released in "floppies" form, wouldn't that be risking too much reprinting just for the sake of it?

I'd rather IDW continually put out new trades then already re-releasing stuff in different formats. Does anyone really want to buy issues #1-11 again after they have the oversized hardcovers?

01-27-2012, 08:55 AM	#53
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Yeah that's a good point Cybercubed. It may be another 6-9 months after the 1st Archie trade before we see another one. Its no secret that the TMNT property has been very successful for IDW already, its their top selling book, and the 1st collected edition they made sold out at the distributor level while toting a pretty hefty price (very much worth it imo), how long do you think it'll be before we see one of the previous comic incarnations of the Turtles continued? They have done it for GI JOE Real American Hero which continues the original Marvel GI JOE run, as well as for the upcoming continuation of the original Trans Formers Marvel comic. One would assume they would try the same with TMNT if the popularity continues. I assume 99% of fans would love to see volume 4 continued, but that would all depend on Laird's willinginess to work for IDW. Realistically what series do you see a better chance of getting continued? Will Peter come around so Mirage can be continued, or do you see the Archie series getting the nod and continued? I know a lot of fans felt Archie never really had a proper ending that left them feeling the story was continued. __________________ -------------------

01-24-2012, 08:01 AM	#44
Thorneyeagle Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 130	edit nevermind

01-24-2012, 08:42 AM	#45
mittens4kittens New Recruit Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2	cool stuff!!!

01-24-2012, 08:46 PM	#46
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,856	Hm, the next collection after, if they go in order, would be #22 and 23...which are hated in the fandom. Perhaps they should skip those two and go straight to "The River" or issues #27-28.

01-24-2012, 11:01 PM	#47
DK2 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 621	I'm not crazy about this trades content, nothing against it coming out. But I do hate the one issue. But if IDW is really committed to this, then by all means do it. The fact its gonna be in color makes it a little more appealing. But the page count pretty much matches the typical IDW trade, 4-5 issues. But since the Mirage stuff were longer comics, thats why we get 3 issues. I agree too that some sortta creator/theme is the more logical approach for the collections, but whatever. Their calling them "classics", so what the hell. The Ult. Vol. 3 HC is cool too. Ending it off with the Eastman & Laird solo/last works. Did Peter Laird really contribute to the annecdotes? I don't have the Ult. Book 1 HC so I don 't know. Is IDW really doing an Archie TMNT trade/collection of any sort? Thought I'd ask as its seems to be mentioned by others.

01-25-2012, 01:52 AM	#51
DK2 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 621	I only cherished the Mirage comics TMNT. The Archie stuff I never ever got into despite the old cartoon coming along back then. But in my humble sense of wanting to diversify in TMNT readings, I will most likely try out the reprints after the initial 3 issue adaptation. I did get the Mirage Future Tense trade and didn't mind most of it. Its just as most TMNT fans have stated in one other thread or two, Mirage TMNT stories really doesn't amount to a whole lot after Vol. 1, Vol. 2, Vol. 4. Especially since the last 2 vol.'s were so slow and stretched out in story pacing. We coulda had more stories if they put the heart into it. The two Tales of TMNT series were of little much more extra stories. Most didn't really mean too much in the general overall canon. The Image Vol.3 run was really the highlight and maybe Bodycount. What TMNT action should be more like. So the IDW TMNT title and any TMNTA reprints could be good for me.

01-25-2012, 07:58 PM	#52
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,856	I gather the only reason we're getting an Archie trade is because the book is already done. It came out back in 2009. All they're doing is scrubbing off the "25th anniversary" logo and that's it. If they start putting together NEW Archie trades, I imagine it will take a while.

01-27-2012, 11:04 AM	#55
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,856	I am not sure I like the idea of colorizing all the Volume 1 issues. But I suppose they think they'll sell better since they aren't in the oversized volumes.

01-27-2012, 05:03 PM	#58
Redrumh2o Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,907	So the "Ultimate" editions are still going to be the only hardcover ones....right??

01-27-2012, 10:34 PM	#60
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,856	What I don't get is if the stuff from the Eastman/Laird collections will be re-released in "floppies" form, wouldn't that be risking too much reprinting just for the sake of it? I'd rather IDW continually put out new trades then already re-releasing stuff in different formats. Does anyone really want to buy issues #1-11 again after they have the oversized hardcovers?