Will Nick use Bebop and Rocksteady?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's a repackaging/repurposing of the Fred Wolf series... they belong here.

So you have come to terms that the IDW series is going the Fred Wolf and maybe Archie route over Mirage?

[Spitfire]

I'm sure they will. Though I question how edgy you can make a cookie cutter comic relief character that people only ever liked because of how they looked.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I'm sure they will. Though I question how edgy you can make a cookie cutter comic relief character that people only ever liked because of how they looked.

People liked them because they were entertaining.

[Redeemer]

I am curious how well the characters will be received considering they were such epic retards in the OT....

[Ninja Tiptup]

It would seem odd for them not to be part of the new series if Shredder is going to be making as many mutants as Viacom reps have lead on.

[Stingray69]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I am curious how well the characters will be received considering they were such epic retards in the OT....

Hey that's not very nice. But any ways I think nicks gonna go more ot feel then 4kids at this point. So those two would be welcomed in my book.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

It's a little too early to tell that, in my opinion. So far, the only tangible connections to the Original Toon are the Kraang, and Rob Paulsen. Still, the revelation that mutation will play a large role is good evidence that Bebop and Rocksteady will be brought back.

We know that they're doing that because that's what they told Mirage interested them in doing specifically during the sale.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So you have come to terms that the IDW series is going the Fred Wolf and maybe Archie route over Mirage?

I wasn't talking about the IDW series... I'm still reserving judgement for a while.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

People liked them because they were entertaining.

We liked them because we were like 6 years old and a goofy punk mutant warthog and rhino was cool to us then. They're betting that a new generation of 6 year olds will react similarly... and they're probably right.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I wasn't talking about the IDW series... I'm still reserving judgement for a while.

We liked them because we were like 6 years old and a goofy punk mutant warthog and rhino was cool to us then. They're betting that a new generation of 6 year olds will react similarly... and they're probably right.

*shrug*

Lots of people who aren't even die-hard fans of the old show still like them. And so far people are open to the idea of them in the IDW comics.

They're going to be treated differently in different mediums. Characters are only campy because the show they were written for was that was.

I really can't wait to see what Tom Waltz does with them for example, makes me wonder when their next appearance will be.

[Spitfire]

Yeah pretty much. The characters had no depth or complexity. They blindly did whatever Shredder told them too and only expressed concern when it came to comic books or video games. They essentially were little kids in adult bodies. They were so cookie cutter in fact that all they did in the later seasons was shoot things because they did away with the comedy element for the most part. Kids liked them for their looks, adults like them for their looks. They look cool. That was it.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Yeah pretty much. The characters had no depth or complexity. They blindly did whatever Shredder told them too and only expressed concern when it came to comic books or video games. They essentially were little kids in adult bodies. They were so cookie cutter in fact that all they did in the later seasons was shoot things because they did away with the comedy element for the most part. Kids liked them for their looks, adults like them for their looks. They look cool. That was it.

Bebop and Rocksteady had a number of scenes that have nothing to do with taking orders from Shredder.

[Spitfire]

Yeah where they played video games and fought over comic books. Or do you mean the 1 episode out of the almost 200 where they go rogue? Oh yeah they got turned into children once and followed the turtles around. Then one time Rocksteady fell for April. Hm did I miss any? No matter what they were doing they were just comic relief with no depth. Even the Archie book had a hard time writing them and wrote them out pretty early on.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

. Even the Archie book had a hard time writing them and wrote them out pretty early on.

You know good and well Murphy did that to distance the series from the cartoon, which is why Krang also went and he never brought back Baxter Stockman either.

The fact that Murphy didn't even mutate Baxter into a fly says enough in itself. He simply didn't want to do the same thing the show was doing.

[Jester]

Wasn't everybody in the Fred Wolf series "comic relief"?

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Jester

Wasn't everybody in the Fred Wolf series "comic relief"?

Yeah with little complexity which is why I don't see how people can say they were awesome characters. Aside from stellar character design the characters had nothing much else going for them outside a set few. People like them now because they had the toys and have fond memories of a TV series they most likely haven't seen since they were 8. Most adults would look at characters like Bebop and Rocksteady now in pictures and say "I remember them they were cool.". Then see them in the series and say "I remember them they were stupid."

[ssjup81]

In all honesty, as a kid, I didn't really particularly favor Bebop and Rocksteady. They were okay and I didn't dislike them, but weren't favorites for me. Having gone back to the show though, those two weren't bad (for the pilot eps and season 1). They weren't as dumb, they weren't afraid of Shredder or Krang early on seemingly, and they were more difficult to physically fight. They were portrayed best for those eps, imo, compared to how dumb they really were later on.

[Plasticplayhouse]

i would enjoy seeing beebop and rocksteady introd in the new toon. though, i do hope that they are a much more worthy opponent to the turtles compared to the blundering idiots they were in the OT.

[CrazySquirrel]

I hope they are in the new series! I hope they have a variety of villians and not just Shedder, Bebop and Rocksteady. I would like them to appear in less than half of the episodes.

[Cowabunga Carl]

They are bringing in the Kraang so I don't see why we wouldn't see some version of Bebop and Rocksteady in the show. They might not be like people remember them though. But I have a strong feeling that they will be around.

[Jester]

I really liked the dopes and hope they do show up. I've missed them.

[Hermano Dyvas]

Of course they will be back. And the counter argument that they aren't using Krang isn't solid. They are going to use a thousand Krang's!