Dan Duncan DONE with IDW Turtles

[Matches Malone]

Originally Posted by FoxZerro

If they keep the stories contained then I think this will work out ok. Duncan gave us the first year, which is kind of one big story.

It has been said that 13 and 14 are a self contained arc which will benefit from having the same artist. If the same is done with 15 and 16, which based upon the trade lengths would probably be the case, then you have two arcs with the same artist at the helm. Plus consistency of art in the trade.

Where this will start to become hard to deal with, for me anyway, is if you have a story arc start with one artist and finish with another. Art changes always distract me.

A very good point, to which I think IDW is thankfully aware. Initially Kuhn was to only do 2 issues, but then signed on for the whole next arc (2 issues) when Duncan resigned, and I'm sure that was intentional.

[Sophie Campbell]

thank you so much for the support, you guys!!!

i'm surprised by so many people not digging Andy Kuhn's stuff, though. his chops and style are undeniable in my opinion, and i've read TMNT #13 and his work in it is awesome. he also draws a mean Shredder. i'm particularly excited for him to be drawing #15-16, i can't say anything about it but you'll see why when the storyline is revealed!! PUMPEDDDDDD

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Ross Campbell

i'm particularly excited for him to be drawing #15-16, i can't say anything about it but you'll see why when the storyline is revealed!! PUMPEDDDDDD

This must mean he draws a mean Slash, as well

[shuriken]

I'm gonna miss Duncan, although to be fair I like the way his turtles looked in the earlier issues as opposed to the later ones. I feel like their heads got too long and their plastrons got too flexible. Although I loved his Casey, Traag and Krang. I get behind whoever did Splinter's Micro, which was my favorite Micro thus far. Campbell would be good too, although I do find his turtles to be a bit too cute. But it works.
I like Kuhn's art, although I think the coloring didn't lend itself well to his style. And Mikey being huge kinda sucked.

[nickn]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

This must mean he draws a mean Slash, as well

I thought it looked like Slash on the B cover for April. Maybe that's just me, it could be Rat King, Slash, who knows! I instantly thought it was Slash though. If the Micros stay in between some of the issues on the main series, I guess this could happen??

[FlawedCoil82]

Wow, I definitely can not see this as good news. Of all the artists that have been involved with IDW's TMNT titles so far, Andy Kuhn was (by far) my least favorite. I hope his style vastly improves or else that he will only be on the title a short while. Just like when IDW's "Godzilla: Kingdom Of Monsters" got Victor Santos to draw the interior art, that comic went to pure crap. But thank God they redeemed themselves (so far) with the new ongoing title with Simon Gane doing the artwork. I hope the same will happen with TMNT. I will give Andy another chance to see if he wins me over (afterall Duncan has had some misses as well) but I am quite nervous on this one.

[Genesis]

Jeez, all the hate for Kuhn. I dug Michelangelo's one-shot. Very 2k3-ish story. I dig his stylized, er, style. His Mike was cute, I thought.

[Bobby Curnow]

Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82

Wow, I definitely can not see this as good news. Of all the artists that have been involved with IDW's TMNT titles so far, Andy Kuhn was (by far) my least favorite. I hope his style vastly improves or else that he will only be on the title a short while. Just like when IDW's "Godzilla: Kingdom Of Monsters" got Victor Santos to draw the interior art, that comic went to pure crap. But thank God they redeemed themselves (so far) with the new ongoing title with Simon Gane doing the artwork. I hope the same will happen with TMNT. I will give Andy another chance to see if he wins me over (afterall Duncan has had some misses as well) but I am quite nervous on this one.

I think this is really interesting, as I edit both Godzilla (post KOM) and TMNT. Simon Gane did the Godzilla Legends #2 (much as Andy did the 2nd micro), and people didn't dig that issue and were preemptively unhappy with the choice for him as the ongoing artist. Now everyone seems to dig him on the ongoing.

I'm not saying that will be the same with Andy, necessarily. He's got a unique style, and maybe it's not for everyone. I will say, judge him on the merits of his ongoing issue work, not the Mike Micro (which I love, but again, maybe not for everyone). Much as Simon Gane brought a different game to the Godzilla ongoing, Andy's refining and doing different things in the ongoing.

I'm not saying you have to like it or anything, but do give it a chance!

[Zulithe]

I agree, Andy deserves his shot at the core title!

This always happens when a book changes artists. I was around when Greg Capullo took over McFarlane on Spawn in the 90s... wow, the outrage. But I always LOVED his art and he quickly grew into one of the hottest artists in the business. Today he's illustrating Batman at DC, easily one of the hottest books right now.

Those underappreciated artists of today can shoot to stardom and acclaim in a very short period. All they need is their chance to do their best work.

[Shellsweet]

Super bummed, but happy for Duncan!
If he happens to read this, I just can't express how much I appreciate his hard work, I'm a huge fan.

I loved his art for the IDW TMNT comics, I really do!
And now, I only wish the best for him in the future! He's great, and I'll dance a jig if he comes back for an issue every once in awhile, or even just for a cover.

And I don't know, I must live on a different planet, I really like Kuhn's style.
It's probably not everyone's cup of tea, which is fine.
But I don't mind seeing his stuff in the next following issues!
I really like his inking contrast, It reminds me of Hellboy.

Though, preferably, I would LOVE to see Schiti (Who did the Micro Series for Donatello) pick up the rest of the TMNT series!
His expressions are FANTASTIC, and I enjoyed his art so much in that micro series issue! I think he'd pick up on the pace of the story pretty well!

I have a lot of faith in the IDW team though!

[Powder]

I actually heard this from the artists themselves at Heroes Con last month, but I was sworn to secrecy, haha. Had I been told before then about the switch over to Kuhn I'd of been bothered by it, admittedly I pratically hated his art in the Mikey micro. But when I met the guy, saw his books of new art, I was sold. His style of the turtles has evolved GREATLY since then, we're in for a real treat. They look really really cool. I'm bummed as hell we're losing Duncan as he became a top favorite of mine in no time flat, but Andy Kuhn is a great artist and just as much of an awesome person, so I'm exicted for that. Plus, I got to see covers up to issue 15 or 16 in person (SPOILERS!!! MWAHAHA) and they too were fantastic.

[FlawedCoil82]

Originally Posted by Bobby Curnow

I think this is really interesting, as I edit both Godzilla (post KOM) and TMNT. Simon Gane did the Godzilla Legends #2 (much as Andy did the 2nd micro), and people didn't dig that issue and were preemptively unhappy with the choice for him as the ongoing artist. Now everyone seems to dig him on the ongoing.

I'm not saying that will be the same with Andy, necessarily. He's got a unique style, and maybe it's not for everyone. I will say, judge him on the merits of his ongoing issue work, not the Mike Micro (which I love, but again, maybe not for everyone). Much as Simon Gane brought a different game to the Godzilla ongoing, Andy's refining and doing different things in the ongoing.

I'm not saying you have to like it or anything, but do give it a chance!

Well I was one of the defenders of Gane's original work in the Rodan special. I loved his style and was very excited when I heard he was taking over for "Godzilla" (I could not stand Victor Santos's cartoony style honestly). In Godzilla's case, Simon Gane was one of my three top choices I could have picked to do the ongoing series (E.J. Su from the Hedorah issue was my top favorite, followed closely by Matt Frank of the Anguirus special, with Simon Gane a very close third). And so far his work in the new title has impressed me quite a bit, especially since he is sticking with my favorite interpretation of Godzilla (Heisei). It's not perfect, but still a huge improvement over what we had before.

But getting back on topic, I will certainly give Andy's work another chance to see if he can win me over. His work was not terrible and certainly better than anything I could draw. It's just based on all the artists involved with the TMNT title so far, he definitely impressed me the least (followed by Mark Torres who did the "Infestation 2" issues). I did like one single panel he did for the Michelangelo issue on page 12 at the bottom where he had Mikey charging at the guys, so he may still be able to capture action better in this new ongoing series. Only time will tell.

[Coro]

Originally Posted by Ross Campbell

thank you so much for the support, you guys!!!

i'm surprised by so many people not digging Andy Kuhn's stuff, though. his chops and style are undeniable in my opinion, and i've read TMNT #13 and his work in it is awesome. he also draws a mean Shredder. i'm particularly excited for him to be drawing #15-16, i can't say anything about it but you'll see why when the storyline is revealed!! PUMPEDDDDDD

More Ross is all I can say!

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Powder

I actually heard this from the artists themselves at Heroes Con last month, but I was sworn to secrecy, haha. Had I been told before then about the switch over to Kuhn I'd of been bothered by it, admittedly I pratically hated his art in the Mikey micro. But when I met the guy, saw his books of new art, I was sold. His style of the turtles has evolved GREATLY since then, we're in for a real treat. They look really really cool. I'm bummed as hell we're losing Duncan as he became a top favorite of mine in no time flat, but Andy Kuhn is a great artist and just as much of an awesome person, so I'm exicted for that. Plus, I got to see covers up to issue 15 or 16 in person (SPOILERS!!! MWAHAHA) and they too were fantastic.

I hope so....I really didn't like the Mikey Micro art, just seemed flat

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I hope so....I really didn't like the Mikey Micro art, just seemed flat

For obvious reasons I couldn't photograph the as of yet unprinted art he brought with him, but I can show you guys this, at least. It's a print of his that I bought, featuring recent turtle art. I quite like it. Sorry it's not the best quality photo I'm providing, but it'll do.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Bobby Curnow

I think this is really interesting, as I edit both Godzilla (post KOM) and TMNT. Simon Gane did the Godzilla Legends #2 (much as Andy did the 2nd micro), and people didn't dig that issue and were preemptively unhappy with the choice for him as the ongoing artist. Now everyone seems to dig him on the ongoing.

I'm not saying that will be the same with Andy, necessarily. He's got a unique style, and maybe it's not for everyone. I will say, judge him on the merits of his ongoing issue work, not the Mike Micro (which I love, but again, maybe not for everyone). Much as Simon Gane brought a different game to the Godzilla ongoing, Andy's refining and doing different things in the ongoing.

I'm not saying you have to like it or anything, but do give it a chance!

Good words to take to heart. The Rodan G:Legends comic was my least favorite (art and story) of that series. But artists can always make great strides in their work when given the chance. I think Duncan's art improved immensely as he continued to work on the book. And I think Kuhn's recent TMNT art samples on his blog really show how he's getting a better grasp on the characters. I am looking forward to the future of the TMNT book.

[Redeemer]

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by Powder

For obvious reasons I couldn't photograph the as of yet unprinted art he brought with him, but I can show you guys this, at least. It's a print of his that I bought, featuring recent turtle art. I quite like it. Sorry it's not the best quality photo I'm providing, but it'll do.

Pretty Awesome pick! I think I will read the Mikey Micro again to compare....hmm...