Scenes/Ideas that didn't make it?

[Shreddette]

Eeewwww not the Neutrino girl!!! That'd be gross, she's like. 12. Or seems like it. They're kids!!! ACK!
April I can see.
Or Lotus. Maybe.

Or Shredder might fall in love with himself.

Yeah I'd probably wanna beat Shredder up if he laughed in my face like that too. I lubs him. That would suck. I'd have to stop being a fan, at that point. Sigh.

Goddamnit don't make me think about it!

[remix17]

Lotus would be interesting, but I think she's too strong and wouldn't "need him" so to speak. Plus I believe they hated each other....she DID kick his keister and he held a grudge.

[Shreddette]

Yeah well like I said I doubt he would fall in love without help of some kind, and when he snaps out of it... it would be humorous. So if it WERE Lotus he'd be infuriated, and that would make things interesting as well!

Imagine him getting his ass kicked while he's crooning about how pretty she is.

Goddamnit, I should be writing these things. Too bad my creativity is at an all time lull these days. (Is lull a word?)

[Raakone]

Another hint at a possible removed or changed scene....in "Shredder gets Splintered", when the Foot Soldiers first exit the Technodrome, there's a mention of "bikers". Bikers? Were they originally going to have soldiers on motorcycles in that scene? Perhaps another "team cycle" like two episodes earlier?

As for Shredder being in love....Splinter has it right, "Someone who specializes in hate"....

~Ra'akone

[Sage Ninja]

What i always wondered was what was up with the personality change they gave Vernon from season one to later seasons. Vernon didn't seem like he had anything against April in the first season or was trying to compete with at all. In fact he defends her to Mr. Burns in one scene in season one as well , didn't seem like he had anything against then?

Where they orginally going to go in another direction with Vernons character, but decided in the last minute to make him a rival of April's?

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

What i always wondered was what was up with the personality change they gave Vernon from season one to later seasons. Vernon didn't seem like he had anything against April in the first season or was trying to compete with at all. In fact he defends her to Mr. Burns in one scene in season one as well , didn't seem like he had anything against then?

Where they orginally going to go in another direction with Vernons character, but decided in the last minute to make him a rival of April's?

wow mr. burns was on the old ninja turtle cartoon!!

[Sage Ninja]

oh yeah, and his wh*re Mr. Smitherns was there to as well But because they kept making a fuss over not having shared trailers together they got kicked off the set

The stuff that goes on behind the scenes is scary

[Turtle Dove]

Man..... I have to find someway to find the episode,"Shredder In Love" I bet it was April he fell for. Or maybe it was some japanese chick (If you recall the first movie Yoshi & Saki liked that 1 girl)

Yah I have to agree with the shredhead babe, bet the story goes like this.... "Irma goes to a fortune Teller and buys a love potion spray to spray on someone. I bet Irma wanted to spray it on some cute scientist guy but instead Shredder gets it and ses Irma and falls in love with her."

Poor Irma....personally I'd take advatange of thesituation,tell the turtles to beat it and have fun with Shredder.


Speaking of naughty thoughts, in the episode,"Attack of the 50 Foot Irma" Any reason why those "Happy Birthday Irma" banners and stuff where in the turtles bedroom?-That's 1 hell of a Bday gift.wish the turtles gave me that for my birthday.-Then again it was the 80's....who knows WHAT went on in the sewers and in Burn Thompson's office with that trampy bimbo he calls Tiffany

[Sage Ninja]

oh you mean that racit bitch? Yeah there was defantly some unconcience innuendo in the series (read my sig on the bottom. with the quate from Donatello). Particularly with Irma. I always suspected she had a crush on Donatello. Does any one find it odd that out of all the turtles Donatello never gets a love interst?

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

You know a past love of Shedders would have been great if they had handled it properly. It could have served to show us a flash back episode of what led up to the events of Shedder framing Yoshi...and why? Maybe this would have been a way to bring in that gal the Shedder's brother was in love with and got killed by Yoshi for in the Mirage comics. They could very easily have made Shedder in love with her instead of his brother and have a sort of love triangle between Yoshi and Saki.

It would explain why Shedder tried so hard to destroy Spinter the way he did. As it is, even as a kid I never understood just why exactly Shedder hated Yoshi/Splinter so much. The fact that Shedder was ambitious and an asshole doesn't really justify the passion of the hatred he felt toward him. Maybe Shedder hated Yoshi they both loved the same girl...hmm, how mysterious...

It worked for the first movie.

[Shreddette]

Originally Posted by ヴァルキリ

It worked for the first movie.

That said, there is a really good story I read online about Saki's vengeance for his brother. I think it may be fanfiction, but I believe it rings true to the original story. It delves into Saki's life from when he was little til... well, I shan't ruin it. Some of you might want to check it out.

Damn, and I just clicked on the link for it in my bookmarks and it doesn't exist anymore.

Anyways, that story was rather heart wrenching. Saki witnessed his brother's death... who he was very close to... and it also explained why Saki wears his bladed armor.

Mind you, I never read the comics themselves so maybe they explained it and I am just being redundant.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Are you referring to "Shredder: the decadence" on the "Ninja Turtle Empire" site?

[Turtle Dove]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

oh you mean that racit bitch? Yeah there was defantly some unconcience innuendo in the series (read my sig on the bottom. with the quate from Donatello). Particularly with Irma. I always suspected she had a crush on Donatello. Does any one find it odd that out of all the turtles Donatello never gets a love interst?

But Donnie gets the kisses from both Aprils though!





Yay Donnie's da man! You rock Donnie.I'd kiss you too.....

[Shreddette]

Originally Posted by ヴァルキリ

Are you referring to "Shredder: the decadence" on the "Ninja Turtle Empire" site?

Actually this one was on fortunecity.com.... but yes that is the story.

I googled ninja turtle empire and found nothing of the sort. Linkie?

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

"Ninja Turtle Empire" WAS on fortunecity.com. I'm pretty sure it's gone now, judging by your story.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Shreddette

Eeewwww not the Neutrino girl!!! That'd be gross, she's like. 12. Or seems like it. They're kids!!! ACK!

That young? Then why is she allowed to be driving a starmobile?

I think we can assume the Neutrinos are all of age.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

You know a past love of Shedders would have been great if they had handled it properly. It could have served to show us a flash back episode of what led up to the events of Shedder framing Yoshi...and why? Maybe this would have been a way to bring in that gal the Shedder's brother was in love with and got killed by Yoshi for in the Mirage comics. They could very easily have made Shedder in love with her instead of his brother and have a sort of love triangle between Yoshi and Saki.

It would explain why Shedder tried so hard to destroy Spinter the way he did. As it is, even as a kid I never understood just why exactly Shedder hated Yoshi/Splinter so much. The fact that Shedder was ambitious and an asshole doesn't really justify the passion of the hatred he felt toward him. Maybe Shedder hated Yoshi they both loved the same girl...hmm, how mysterious...

The rival lovers angle was in the original Mirage comic story, of course, but there was nothing like that in the original animated cartoon series. Going by that, I would venture that Shredder's desire to destroy Splinter was motivated by fear rather than hostility. Shredder has two good reasons to fear Splinter, after all: 1) Shredder turned Splinter into a mutant freak, and 2) In the "Fifth Turtle" episode where Zach is introduced, Splinter has evidence against Shredder that would exonerate Hamato Yoshi and cause Oroku Saki to be expelled from the Foot Clan. Shredder could never feel truly comfortable while his old enemy was still alive, even when turned into a mutant rat.

[Shreddette]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

That young? Then why is she allowed to be driving a starmobile?

I think we can assume the Neutrinos are all of age.

Okay, maybe she's 15 like the turtles. You know, so they match.
Plus the Neutrinos are from a different world; different world with different rules. Also, weren't they breaking the rules? They were trying to escape that dreck, if I recall correctly.

Plus, it was a kid's show, so they catered to kids ideals, the teenagers got to drive a cool vehicle.

Still, being about 14, 15 or 16 years old (maybe) would be highly inappropriate for Shredder, who is in his 30's, to fall in love with.

That still doesn't change the fact that I wanted him when I was 12.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

The rival lovers angle was in the original Mirage comic story, of course, but there was nothing like that in the original animated cartoon series. Going by that, I would venture that Shredder's desire to destroy Splinter was motivated by fear rather than hostility. Shredder has two good reasons to fear Splinter, after all: 1) Shredder turned Splinter into a mutant freak, and 2) In the "Fifth Turtle" episode where Zach is introduced, Splinter has evidence against Shredder that would exonerate Hamato Yoshi and cause Oroku Saki to be expelled from the Foot Clan. Shredder could never feel truly comfortable while his old enemy was still alive, even when turned into a mutant rat.

good point, however why would Shedder be afraid of Splinter presenting evidence that he was framed by him? When Yoshi was ousted from the clan Shedder became the head of the clan, so Spliter could very well have showed him the evidence of his innocence. And he couldn't very well show the other clan members eighther because all the foot clan had been replaced by robot soldiers. Which makes me wonder, was their still an exisiting foot clan in japan after Shedder hooked up with Krang, or is he the only living member other than robots? I wonder where the living human clan members went, or if they are still alive.

[Raakone]

The episode with the "Turtle Collector" (the one who stole everything Turtles' related, and had wax statues of certain villains), there's the "Two headed biker" mentioned. Also, in the Rogues episode, one of the villains was Scumbug, who was never seen before. I wonder if there were SUPPOSED to be episodes with the two-headed biker and Scumbug that were scrapped, but the other episodes already were written "as though it happened", what do you think?

~Ra'akone