Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by raph27

I kept thinking this movie would be bad, but after seeing it today with some buddies I loved it.

This is one of those circumstances that I think the brutal Rottentomatoes score might actually help the film, with people going in expecting an absolute train wreck and only getting a highway car pile up.

[NinjaPug]

Pretty good Monday at the box office:

"@ERCboxoffice: BATMAN V SUPERMAN scored $15M yesterday--$1M more than FURIOUS 7, $5M more than THE HUNGER GAMES on their 1st Mondays."

"@ERCboxoffice: The $15M BATMAN V SUPERMAN earned on Monday is better than both IRON MAN 3 ($11M) and AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON ($13M)."

[NinjaPug]

Stop being such an insufferable twat.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

@Krutch

I'm honestly tired of having the same points talked about over and over...but you've now said some new things that, are just really out there.

So you talk about facts. Doomsday comes from the Kryptonian ship, and then shoots lasers out of his eyes just like Superman and Zod, and you still think Batman should think it's not kryptonian based off of a video of the Flash and Aquaman? Cyborg and Wonder Woman up to that point had not shown any powers. So you discredit the fact the creature comes from something kryptonian because of Meta-Humans. Meta-Humans that in Lex's explanation to the Senator, could be stopped by a Kryptonian Bullet. Which would most likely be in the files Batman steals. So EVEN if Batman thought for one second, wait they could be meta-humans...Lex's research seems to point to them all being vulnerable to Kryptonite (which is wrong) and therefore would be right of Batman to suggest using the spear to defeat Doomsday.

Your theory of "well he should have shot the grenade at him to test it out first theory...yeah he had ONE left. He used it to weaken it so they could get close and kill it. Why on earth would he waste his ONLY grenade just to make sure he wasn't a Meta-Human, which Lex believes would be weakened or killed by Kryptonite? If he wastes his last kryptonite grenade, then they, especially Batman, have NO shot of getting close to it and stabbing it with the spear.

I'm at work, I'm sure there was other things I wanted to reply to, maybe later when I'm done with work I'll go through comment by comment.

And $15 million on a Monday...yeah sure looks like Constipated42 or whatever his name is, will be eating a sh*t sandwich this week, or no he won't because he'll just avoid anything that proves him wrong, or makes him look like a tool.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

I'm honestly tired of having the same points talked about over and over...

haha as am I, dude

Like I said, I'm dropping it. I feel like we've reached a point where you feel the script gave enough to warrant what you believe and I feel otherwise. The bullets/hired guns thing, to me, isn't a minor quibble because it dictates Lois Lane's entire story arc for the first half of the movie and only serves to show that Lex is awful at covering his tracks and shows Batman isn't a good detective. The Doomsday thing, to me, just showed a big lack of judgement that could have resulted in the death of hundreds or thousands of Gotham citizens but due to plot convenience, it all worked out okay. You think he made a rational decision based on what was in front of him.

It happens

I appreciate you backing up your points, though. You can post new points if you'd like, and if you happen to sway my opinion, I'll let you know. But if I don't reply to it, don't take it personally. I'm just getting off this carousel before we go around again

Fantastic Four (1994) - 29%
Kick Ass 2 - 30%
The Punisher (1989) - 28%
The Punisher (2004) - 29%

[plastroncafe]

I'm curious:

Are there any women on the board who enjoys this particular portion of the extended universe?

I've yet to hear a woman say she liked this movie.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Krutch

due to plot convenience, it all worked out okay.

Last thing I'll say here...

Isn't everything that happens in every movie a plot convenience? In real life mistakes are made, people made bad judgments, people don't succeed, we don't call them plot holes...it's just life. I don't want to watch a movie where every character is flawless in their execution of whatever it is they're doing. That's boring.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Krutch

The...the same exact logic you're using to deduce that Doomsday is Kryptonian? "He shoots lasers from his eyes! He's Kryptonian!" is the same as saying "He's as fast as Superman! He's Kryptonian!" or "She can take a hit like Superman! She's Kryptonian!" Stop attacking, dude. Just sharing my thoughts.

Banes pretty powerful. Does that mean he's from Krypton too? what about Killer croc. He's green. must be from krypton right? you act like he's never encountered someone with superhuman powers.

Originally Posted by Krutch

ha only serves to show that Lex is awful at covering his tracks and shows Batman isn't a good detective. The Doomsday thing, to me, just showed a big lack of judgement that could have resulted in the death of hundreds or thousands of Gotham citizens but due to plot convenience, it all worked out okay. You think he made a rational decision based on what was in front of him.

It's easy to not find things you aren't looking for. Superman is bad in Batmans eyes. He's not searching trying to find out how he killed those people if he beleieves he did it. And Even IF Doomsday somehow wasn't Kryptonian; Do you honestly believe Superman(THE SON OF KRYPTON) would be like "yeah i know he's not kryptonian but lets try this spear thing anyway. what do we got to lose right?!"

[ABrown]

As was the case with Man of Steel, I'm just having a hard time buying Henry Canvill as Superman. And I don't entirely blame it on him. I don't like the costume, I don't like the dialogue/writing. But mostly, I just don't see the "boyscout" that I think Superman should be. While there's a lot of people who don't think that it was the greatest movie in the world, I think Brandon Routh was able to pull off the role in Superman Returns. And I think Tom Welling in Smallville was very good in the role. However, for whatever reason I just can't behind Canvill as Superman.

[NinjaPug]

"Too smart for Marvel fans" - Did Leo write that crap?

[Krutch]

No, what Leo said was...

I've been saying from the beginning, their only real concern isn't if the movie is any good, it's, "Will the functional retards who made the 'Transformers' series a hit pay any attention to a comic book movie that is as much about story and plot and world-building as it is about explosions?"

Again, people are getting all dismissive and forgetting that I actually HAVE the story of the movie saved on my hard drive. It's brilliant. It's THE best storyline any comic book movie ever had. It's cerebral and nuanced and textured and borrows heavily from the canon in ways no other comic book film ever bothered to, especially in the ways it handles each of its multiple important characters, and how events link together and plant seeds for things that haven't happened yet.

I get that it's fun to play "The Snark Game", but at some point a few of you have to realize you're just f*cking morons talking to hear yourselves, who don't even know what you're talking about. The movie IS going to be really good. Is it "Too Good" for the popcorn crowd? Honestly, that IS a legitimate concern. People nowadays really can't tell good from bad. Some of the same people who think this movie somehow looks "bad" - and again, lay off the f*cking crack if that's your "opinion" - are drooling on themselves over how "awesome" that TMNT fiasco will be. Just for one example. People really are that dumb, to the point where they can't recognize Good Things but universally praise Bad Things, like TMNT or Transformers movies. It's maddening.

Snyder's only "mistake", if you can call it that, is that from the start he aimed way over the heads of the type of manchildren who go see these comic book movies. Which I and a lot of other people say is great, but the response from the plebians has been predictable as f*ck, right from when he decided to make a Movie and not a f*cking cartoon. F*ck those people.

It absolutely is going to be a terrific movie. Will it lose money BECAUSE it isn't "light and fluffy" enough for the little kids and spastic man-babies? Yes, absolutely.

[NinjaPug]

Friday's domestic box office dropped 81% over the previous week. Everyone knew this would make money opening weekend. Now WB will see the effects of the negative reception.

[NinjaPug]

Such a bad troll

[ToTheNines]

Josh Wilding is such a joke. Awful write up.

[JakeSully]

This was an ok movie but Man of Steel was better however Ben was surprisingly good as Batman.

[JakeSully]

Do you all agree DC is having the dark age of comics on film? do you all remember the dark age of comics of the 90s?

[shuriken]

You mean the time after the Crow up until Blade? what about it?
We had what? Spawn, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, The Phantom, Steel, Judge Dredd, Generation X, The Shadow...
I dunno I think Steel is easily the worst of the bunch. Garbage ass movie

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by shuriken

You mean the time after the Crow up until Blade? what about it?
We had what? Spawn, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, The Phantom, Steel, Judge Dredd, Generation X, The Shadow...
I dunno I think Steel is easily the worst of the bunch. Garbage ass movie

No, i'm talking about some comics in the 90s who took the wrong message from the original Ninja Turtles comics, Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, Frank Miller, Alan Moore comics, Richard Corben's Heavy Metal issues, Akira etc. thinking grim and dark can sell and all.

The 90s was not a good time for comics or comic films besides the "extreme" Liefled stuff as there was the speculator market that crashed in 1996 remember with gimmick covers abound even in polybags/cards/glow in the dark covers? yes some comic films weren't very good in the 90s with some exceptions like Crow, Ninja Turtles the movie, Ghost in The Shell, Blade, Rocketeer, Batman Returns, Mask of the Phantasm etc. but the new millenium is the best place for comic films even with the technology on some.

The Spawn movie did sucked but the animated show was far better.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by JakeSully

Do you all agree DC is having the dark age of comics on film? do you all remember the dark age of comics of the 90s?

I'd say it's more a "dork age"

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I'd say it's more a "dork age"

So you remember the so-called "Dark age of comics" of the 90s right?