Will Nick use Bebop and Rocksteady?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

True, but Nick knows that those characters were popular with kids once before, and there's no reason kids of today wouldn't love them just the same.

While true, visually and mentality-wise now they seem a lot like throwbacks to a bygone era where punk rockers and punk rocker-esque gangs dominated the streets and mohawks and all that were all the rage. It worked in 1987, but it all seems a bit silly and dated now, in 2012. You just don't see that sort of stuff anymore beyond select cliques nowadays who get stuffed into lockers. Who's to say if kids of 2012 would connect to them now were they exactly as they were then.

I'd say we're about to find out, though. But I believe they'll still be visually updated a bit into something else.

[ToTheNines]

Throw some Kanye glasses on Bebop and he's good to go.

[Cowabunga Carl]

I'm waiting to see Dogpound and Fishface in action before passing judgment on them. Rocksteady and Bebop worked in the 80's and are part of the OT, while I wouldn't mind them in a show I'd like to see some new henchmen and mutants.

[marcelangelo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

While true, visually and mentality-wise now they seem a lot like throwbacks to a bygone era where punk rockers and punk rocker-esque gangs dominated the streets and mohawks and all that were all the rage. It worked in 1987, but it all seems a bit silly and dated now, in 2012. You just don't see that sort of stuff anymore beyond select cliques nowadays who get stuffed into lockers. Who's to say if kids of 2012 would connect to them now were they exactly as they were then.

I'd say we're about to find out, though. But I believe they'll still be visually updated a bit into something else.

you know to me it feels like a little bit of the opposite thing in this point...mohawks are part of normal day to day routine nowerdays...you see thme on musicians and so yo see them on teenagers and even little children everywhere you go...so often that a weird haircut like thta won't have a striking effect anymore...but in combination with the turtoise shells on his shoulders I think it works....

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Old Hob

I'm waiting to see Dogpound and Fishface in action before passing judgment on them. Rocksteady and Bebop worked in the 80's and are part of the OT, while I wouldn't mind them in a show I'd like to see some new henchmen and mutants.

I think the other problem is these new mutants look too accessorized. Fishface seems to have robot legs, and Dogpound has all those damn spikes all over him.

Rocksteady and Bebop's designs were simply "normal" and down to earth. They just wore their street punk clothes and that's it.

Sooner or later they will introduce the original mutants of the franchise. If IDW is using them in comics aimed at adults I see no reason Nick wouldn't.

[Xav]

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't show up. Shredder's henchmen seem to keep changing between canons.

[CyberCubed]

Does seem strange that they're choosing to introduce new mutants like Dogpound and Fishface right off the bat rather than use well known mutants.

I understand every new series wants to introduce fresh characters right away, that's why IDW introduced Old Hob, but it makes you wonder.

We don't even know if Krang himself will appear as the leader of the Kraang.

[Cowabunga Carl]

I don't want a carbon copy of the OT, or IDW. I think that's one reason I'm able to do the IDW sereis thus far. It's different enough that I don't feel like been there done that. Plus Old Hob is a great addition. The comic is brining in enough old things to make some fans happy but adding new layers to it too.

I'm hoping Nick does that too. I'm hoping that there is enough there to recognize it but enough different that I'm not thinking someone else did it better. I guess that's why part of me doesn't want to see these guys again now for a third time. I have a feeling we will though. I'm open to seeing them again but if we do I hope Nick keeps them fresh.

[CyberCubed]

Bebop/Rocksteady went a 15 year gap between appearances from the end of Season 8 in 1994 to 2009's Turtles Forever.

You act as if they've constantly been around. Even in IDW we've only seen them once, and in human form no less.

[Cowabunga Carl]

They were one hit wonders. In the OT they served one purpose and that was to screw up the Shredder's plan. Heck that was even their point in Turtles Forever. For me as a child that was what made them so much fun. When I watch the OT that's part of what makes it magical for me.

That doesn't mean I want to see them other places. You're right Cubed they were "gone" for a while. But they weren't really when I, or anyone else, puts on a dvd of the OT.

[ToTheNines]

Well they're saving Casey Jones for season 2, and I think we can all agree he's a more "classic" TMNT character than these two. So I expect to see them later on down the line.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I really, really hope these two make it into the new show, and I really don't see any indication they won't- just because they're not in with the figures shown off at Toyfare, doesn't mean they won't show up in Season 1 with everybody else.

[strugler]

I certainly hope so. Bebop and rocksteady are a huge part of the TMNT mythos, even if they were not in the original comics.

and guess what? i am still pissed at eastman and laird for now allowing their inclusion in the secret of the ooze movie, so instead we got tokka and rhazar.

however, i must add, i want bebop and rocksteady to be a serious threat to the turtles and not the goofy screw-ups they were in the original cartoon.

[Agent 86]

I'd like to see Bebop and Rocksteady in the new series.

I'd be more than happy if they're simply human "thugs" for a while before they mutate into their more beastly forms. And I'd be especially happy if they were a serious threat to the turtles (preferably in both human and mutant forms).

At the moment, the new dog and fish/pirahna/shark (?) mutants don't really appeal to me, but it's unfair to judge them based on action figure proto-types alone.

[lKevlKev]

I hope they show up. Even though they were bumbling fools and always got themselves handed to them by the turtles, I always loved them. The turtles have villains that are much more of a challenge to balance it out anyway.

[CyberCubed]

The fact that there are no toys for them right out of the gate, and not even any sketches/molds like Leatherhead/Metalhead and Baxter...makes me think they're not in Season 1 if they appear at all.

I guess Nick wants to make sure their new mutants like Dogpound and Fishface become popular, rather than being overshadowed by Bebop and Rocksteady.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Either that, or they are saving them for a surprise!

[Nintendophile]

I think, if done properly, Bebop and Rocksteady could definitely be updated and made a more "serious" threat to the Turtles. Look at the successfully updated versions of Monkian and Jackalman, (now named Addicus and Kaynar), in the new Thundercats series. Definitely an example of two character updates done right!

I'm sure the new Nick TMNT could pull off such a transformation for Bebop and Rocksteady. Less clumsy/buffoonery, more menacing/serious, but still with a touch of humor.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Yeah, their original designs are epic as they are, all they need is some brains and you could have yourself two threatening mutants to tend with!

[Candy Kappa]

in-show or not, I kinda hope we'll get action figures of them. And not just Bebop and Rocksteady but many more figures from various versions, made in a toy design style