Where's Oroku Saki? - Page 4

swing_kinker · 03-28-2014, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

So it's basically the plot from the 2007 movie?

Well one, I'm not an authority on the script whatsoever its purely a theory and two, think there must have been a secret movie in 2007 Involving shredder i missed

*Coola Yagami* · 03-28-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio

either that or we hear this over and over again

To me this feels like it screams some kind of secret technique
"5000 bo staff whirls"

Either that or you all wake up and face the fact that Fitchner is Shredder/Oroku Saki/Eric Sachs.

1984TMNT · 03-28-2014, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Maybe Fictner isn't Shredder. Sachs just developed the suit for him to combat the Turtles.

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Maybe I am just seeing things but that looks like a reflection coming off a pupil. Also the height difference along with how straight the suit is standing. It looks like a person is in there.

http://i.imgur.com/wq6gLE7.jpg

I totally agree and saw the exact same thing when watching the trailer. There is definitely a reflection of some sort coming from exactly where a person's eyes would be in the Shredder helmet.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-28-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

I totally agree and saw the exact same thing when watching the trailer. There is definitely a reflection of some sort coming from exactly where a person's eyes would be in the Shredder helmet.

No, that's not where the eyes go.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-29-2014, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

I totally agree and saw the exact same thing when watching the trailer. There is definitely a reflection of some sort coming from exactly where a person's eyes would be in the Shredder helmet.

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

No, that's not where the eyes go.

Yeah, people are seeing what they want to see in that. It's just a mechanized Silver Samurai-from-The-Wolverine-like suit he's staring at, saying, "Wear me! Turn me on! You know you want to !"

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-29-2014, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, people are seeing what they want to see in that. It's just a mechanized Silver Samurai-from-The-Wolverine-like suit he's staring at, saying, "Wear me! Turn me on! You know you want to !"

Yeah, the suit is called The Shredder Mech project. Not the actual character.

MastahShredder · 03-29-2014, 04:38 AM

Judging by the openings of the eyes in the first leaked pictures..there is nothing covering that part of his face. Not to mention he looks like a demon in the eyes..

Direct eye contact. Height difference. The stance. And why would the suit be where it is in the trailer? On the outside of some weird lighted room in the hallway?

Sachs creates hero's and I bet he creates the villain as well.

"Don't worry about what you read about Shredder...you'll be pleasantly surprised". - Eastman

Huzzah · 03-29-2014, 06:34 AM

The eyes do look demonic...I hadn't noticed that...plus the mask on the armor definitely evokes a demonic image...

Now, to grasp at straws, maybe Sachs wasn't talking about creating the Turtles...perhaps he and Mr. O'Neil were responsible for creating the Shredder...Sachs may view the Turtles as the threat...I mean humans do tend to find things that aren't of the normal. by their standards, as evil and threatening. O'Neil probably backs out of the deal when things get a little too non-scientific, possibly dealing with aliens (Utrom/Krang/etc.) or supernatural (summoning a demonic Shredder).

On a completely unrelated note...I would love to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

*Coola Yagami* · 03-29-2014, 02:30 PM

...it's a Shredder suit. Nothing more. As for height difference, it's kinda obvious it would due to wearing the shoes/boots/whatever once he's in the suit.

I kinda blame the 2K3 and Utrom business for this crap. Shredder is just supposed to wear bladed armor on parts of his body. It's not supposed to be a full body metallic suit. He's just supposed to be super skilled on his own, wearing bladed armor to make himself even deadlier. He's not supposed to rely on some mech suit to fight...

NYShell · 03-29-2014, 02:39 PM

I love the whole demonic look for Shredder.

Dākunaito · 03-29-2014, 02:39 PM

Good research mastahshredder, I agree with huzzah as well maybe he's got a lex luthor thing going on in which he's going to make the turtles out to be a menace to society.

*TrickOrTreater* · 03-29-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

...it's a Shredder suit. Nothing more. As for height difference, it's kinda obvious it would due to wearing the shoes/boots/whatever once he's in the suit.

As much as I'd love for that theory to be true, that Sachs is looking at Oroku Saki in the Shredder armor, yeah, I agree. I doubt it's true.

Fichtner's already said that Sachs is Shredder in various interviews, I believe. So that's that.

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I kinda blame the 2K3 and Utrom business for this crap. Shredder is just supposed to wear bladed armor on parts of his body. It's not supposed to be a full body metallic suit. He's just supposed to be super skilled on his own, wearing bladed armor to make himself even deadlier. He's not supposed to rely on some mech suit to fight...

Yyyyyep. That's the best Shredder.

MastahShredder · 03-29-2014, 04:21 PM

I'm not saying it's Oroku Saki.

I just don't think Sachs is actually Shredder unless he is mutated or the suit has some mechanical stuff going on.

Maybe they tie in Saki with Karai?

I mean, the Turtles are GIGANTIC. Look how small Fichtner is. There is just no way he steps in the suit and is this amazing martial artist that can take on 4 gigantic Turtles who can crush hummers, throw people 50 feet in the air and jump from the top of buildings, crushing bricks on impact.

and to note, I was very very against the idea of someone else being Shredder. The trailer changed my mind.

*TrickOrTreater* · 03-29-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder

I mean, the Turtles are GIGANTIC. Look how small Fichtner is. There is just no way he steps in the suit and is this amazing martial artist that can take on 4 gigantic Turtles who can crush hummers, throw people 50 feet in the air and jump from the top of buildings, crushing bricks on impact.

"Goes through changes" makes me think he takes whatever form of ooze he's working on and becomes the "super soldier" or whatever he was trying to create.

That'll be the climax. Super Eric Sachs vs 4 huge turtle hulks.

MastahShredder · 03-29-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

"Goes through changes" makes me think he takes whatever form of ooze he's working on and becomes the "super soldier" or whatever he was trying to create.

That'll be the climax. Super Eric Sachs vs 4 huge turtle hulks.

That I can buy. He created the good guys and he'll create the bad guy.

It's going to be like Jason X lol

Matches Malone · 03-29-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The scumbags made him into white man Eric Sachs.

Every Asian person in the world should be morally offended.

Probably best if you don't try to tell how entire ethnic groups of people ought to feel...

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-29-2014, 04:43 PM

This is not connected to anything but Why is it when you Cast Black man in white man character okay, like new Johny Storm but if you cast white man as black character everyone loses their ****, Imagine Luke Cage played by a white guy? To me any race change is sinful, no matter the race...

*TrickOrTreater* · 03-29-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

This is not connected to anything but Why is it when you Cast Black man in white man character okay, like new Johny Storm but if you cast white man as black character everyone loses their ****, Imagine Luke Cage played by a white guy? To me any race change is sinful, no matter the race...

It's about representation.

The default is white male.

So making a white character whose race isn't integral to his character isn't that bad.

But a black character or any other race of character being made white is not a good thing.

swing_kinker · 03-29-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

This is not connected to anything but Why is it when you Cast Black man in white man character okay, like new Johny Storm but if you cast white man as black character everyone loses their ****, Imagine Luke Cage played by a white guy? To me any race change is sinful, no matter the race...

There was a lot of disappointment regarding Sam Jackson being cast as nick fury. Mixing ultimate universe with regular etc

Anton Chigurh · 03-29-2014, 05:02 PM

Lets stay on track people, I hate getting on here and reading this race Bullcrap, so please stay on topic.

I know Ive gotten on here and argued but I tied of doing that crap

03-29-2014, 04:38 AM	#67
MastahShredder Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: New York Posts: 743	Judging by the openings of the eyes in the first leaked pictures..there is nothing covering that part of his face. Not to mention he looks like a demon in the eyes.. Direct eye contact. Height difference. The stance. And why would the suit be where it is in the trailer? On the outside of some weird lighted room in the hallway? Sachs creates hero's and I bet he creates the villain as well. "Don't worry about what you read about Shredder...you'll be pleasantly surprised". - Eastman __________________ Last edited by MastahShredder; 03-29-2014 at 05:09 AM.

03-29-2014, 02:30 PM	#69
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	...it's a Shredder suit. Nothing more. As for height difference, it's kinda obvious it would due to wearing the shoes/boots/whatever once he's in the suit. I kinda blame the 2K3 and Utrom business for this crap. Shredder is just supposed to wear bladed armor on parts of his body. It's not supposed to be a full body metallic suit. He's just supposed to be super skilled on his own, wearing bladed armor to make himself even deadlier. He's not supposed to rely on some mech suit to fight... __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

03-29-2014, 02:39 PM	#70
NYShell Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Long Island, NY - Dallas, TX Posts: 581	I love the whole demonic look for Shredder. __________________ "All fathers care for their sons." ** LOOKING FOR 2016 SIDESHOW COLLECTIBLES EXCLUSIVE TMNT STATUES (LEO, MIKE, RAPH) **

03-29-2014, 04:21 PM	#73
MastahShredder Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: New York Posts: 743	I'm not saying it's Oroku Saki. I just don't think Sachs is actually Shredder unless he is mutated or the suit has some mechanical stuff going on. Maybe they tie in Saki with Karai? I mean, the Turtles are GIGANTIC. Look how small Fichtner is. There is just no way he steps in the suit and is this amazing martial artist that can take on 4 gigantic Turtles who can crush hummers, throw people 50 feet in the air and jump from the top of buildings, crushing bricks on impact. and to note, I was very very against the idea of someone else being Shredder. The trailer changed my mind. __________________ Last edited by Jester; 03-29-2014 at 05:07 PM. Reason: Post merge

03-29-2014, 05:02 PM	#80
Anton Chigurh Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 474	Lets stay on track people, I hate getting on here and reading this race Bullcrap, so please stay on topic. I know Ive gotten on here and argued but I tied of doing that crap __________________ "Whats the most you've ever lost on a coin toss?" "you have meddeled with the primal forces of nature Mr. Beale"

03-29-2014, 06:34 AM	#68
Huzzah Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Independence, Louisiana Posts: 1,124	The eyes do look demonic...I hadn't noticed that...plus the mask on the armor definitely evokes a demonic image... Now, to grasp at straws, maybe Sachs wasn't talking about creating the Turtles...perhaps he and Mr. O'Neil were responsible for creating the Shredder...Sachs may view the Turtles as the threat...I mean humans do tend to find things that aren't of the normal. by their standards, as evil and threatening. O'Neil probably backs out of the deal when things get a little too non-scientific, possibly dealing with aliens (Utrom/Krang/etc.) or supernatural (summoning a demonic Shredder). On a completely unrelated note...I would love to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

03-29-2014, 02:39 PM	#71
Dākunaito Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: oregon Posts: 235	Good research mastahshredder, I agree with huzzah as well maybe he's got a lex luthor thing going on in which he's going to make the turtles out to be a menace to society.

03-29-2014, 04:43 PM	#77
~~electric_sheep~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,639	This is not connected to anything but Why is it when you Cast Black man in white man character okay, like new Johny Storm but if you cast white man as black character everyone loses their ****, Imagine Luke Cage played by a white guy? To me any race change is sinful, no matter the race...