Last few years...

JJ · 09-24-2004, 03:38 PM

Hi!
Can anybody tell me what happened with the Turtles in the last 10 years? The last time I watched it was when I was six. And I really would like to know what has happened... Thanks!

*ZariusTwo* · 09-24-2004, 04:56 PM

www.tvtome.com

...With as many episode guides avalible on the Internet, you'd THINK some people would stop living under a rock

Mandi-chan · 09-24-2004, 05:17 PM

Tsk, tsk, ZariusTwo don't be mean! I know how JJ feels, it's a lot easier to ask fans of the series who had watched it to summarize what happened rather than read tvtome guides that are really long.

JJ, if I had watched the entire thing of the old toon I would summarize it for you, but I didn't. I'm like you, the last time I had watched the old toon when it was on tv was when I was that age.

Tigershard · 09-24-2004, 06:30 PM

I was in the same boat. Last time I watched the show was when I was very young. Now I've collected every episode of the old series and am making my way through it, and am caught up on the new series. I also went and score over 200 TMNT comic books, but I'm still missing about half the Adventures series.

What would you specifically like to know?

JJ · 01-02-2005, 09:52 AM

Man, you must have a lot of time.

Ok. I would like to know if they created new enemies, if yes who is it, and what happened to the Turtles and why did they do the Turtle series look "new".

Thanx,

JJ

*Buslady* · 01-02-2005, 10:18 AM

the new series is completely seperate from the old. new look, correct characterisations, fantastic look all over. the turtles are normal...i mean, living hiding underground unlike the old goofy series where they're out i the open and nobody cares.
many of the bad guys are out of the original comic books. some are new. Most of the stories are also right out of the comics with a little tweeking and adjustments...can't have Raph cussing all the time in the toon hahah

"DAMN!"

hehehe

*ZariusTwo* · 01-02-2005, 05:17 PM

Err.. in the original seires, they were treated like wanted fugitives, in the media and in the public eye, for several seasons, they only wore disguises when they had to travel around during the day, and only stalked the city as themselves either at night or when they had no choice but to act in the day.

**Jester** · 01-02-2005, 06:01 PM

Zarius, Laird himself complained that in the old toon:
1. The TMNT walked out in the open far too much and
2. Were fluffy, almost inflateable, like masey's parade balloons.
What Buslady said was her "opinion." I love the old show, but it was like the 1970's Batman show, it camped the TMNT, made them more comical than their comic book counterparts. Heck, even the Archie TMNT had a harder edge than the middle year (seasons 3-6) TMNT episodes.

Irfit · 01-03-2005, 04:43 AM

The new TMNT cartoon is a kinda more "dark". The turtles must move and act in the darkness. Thats like the main difference between them, but the drawings of the second cartoon have (by far) more work

*ZariusTwo* · 01-03-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Zarius, Laird himself complained that in the old toon

Sometimes Laird thinks about the show in the negative aspects, but he's gone on record not only to pay homage to the original cartoon (Secret Origins) but he seems to have an appreciation for Krang, Rocksteady, and Bebop, saying that they were "good for the show, but not for the comic", I can respect that, but he hhas not went out and spat on the legacy of the original cartoon like a lot of other biased tools are doing.

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I love the old show, but it was like the 1970's Batman show, it camped the TMNT, made them more comical than their comic book counterparts. Heck, even the Archie TMNT had a harder edge than the middle year (seasons 3-6) TMNT episodes.

I love the original cartoon as well, and I know it had it's flaws, but the humour in the original cartoon is VASTLY superior to the new cartoon, all you see that in THAT are crappy Matrix and Star Wars references

Season 3 I think we ALL know, was the finest season of the show's earlier seasons, it had tight continunity and a direction

**Jester** · 01-03-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

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Originally Posted by Jester

Zarius, Laird himself complained that in the old toon

Sometimes Laird thinks about the show in the negative aspects, but he's gone on record not only to pay homage to the original cartoon (Secret Origins) but he seems to have an appreciation for Krang, Rocksteady, and Bebop, saying that they were "good for the show, but not for the comic", I can respect that, but he hhas not went out and spat on the legacy of the original cartoon like a lot of other biased tools are doing.

Yes, i know Laird isn't totally against the old toon, in fact in my post i mentioned the 2 things he does complain about....the TMNT out in the open too much and the fluffyness factor.

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

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Originally Posted by Jester

I love the old show, but it was like the 1970's Batman show, it camped the TMNT, made them more comical than their comic book counterparts. Heck, even the Archie TMNT had a harder edge than the middle year (seasons 3-6) TMNT episodes.

I love the original cartoon as well, and I know it had it's flaws, but the humour in the original cartoon is VASTLY superior to the new cartoon, all you see that in THAT are crappy Matrix and Star Wars references

Season 3 I think we ALL know, was the finest season of the show's earlier seasons, it had tight continunity and a direction

I don't remember season 3 all that well, it's been years since i watched it, so maybe 4-6 are the overly campy seasons, then it got edgeier but weird in 7-10 with the red sky and dregg. I respect the old series, i see it as a totally diffrent show from the new one, and just as great, when weighed on it's own merits. The old toon made the TMNT accesible to kids with humor over action, kids who now can sit and watch the new toon, and appriciate the action over humor there in. 2 toons, 2 diffrent styles, both great hours of entertainment.

*ZariusTwo* · 01-03-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I don't remember season 3 all that well, it's been years since i watched it, so maybe 4-6 are the overly campy seasons, then it got edgeier but weird in 7-10 with the red sky and dregg.

Oh yeah, Seasons 4-6 had a beggining, but no end, I count them as one huge season alongside Season Seven since David Wise had no story direction for the show at that point, and the show was so popular, it did'nt matter if they had nothing better to do.

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I respect the old series, i see it as a totally diffrent show from the new one, and just as great, when weighed on it's own merits. The old toon made the TMNT accesible to kids with humor over action, kids who now can sit and watch the new toon, and appriciate the action over humor there in. 2 toons, 2 diffrent styles, both great hours of entertainment.

Thanks, that's mostly what a lot of people want, for both shows to be respected

**Barkworm** · 01-03-2005, 02:09 PM

I agree with Zarius about the old toon's humour. It was waaaaay funnier than the new one's IMO.

**azure turtle** · 01-07-2005, 04:22 PM

Just to let folks know, the discussion about Germany has been split and moved to the GD: Everything Else under the title Where do you live? Please feel free to continue that conversation in the new thread. Thanks!

JJ · 01-08-2005, 09:29 AM

OK, works for me

09-24-2004, 03:38 PM	#1
JJ Thug Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: I kind of live in Sierra Vista, AZ and in Germany... Posts: 64	Last few years... Hi! Can anybody tell me what happened with the Turtles in the last 10 years? The last time I watched it was when I was six. And I really would like to know what has happened... Thanks!

09-24-2004, 04:56 PM	#2
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	www.tvtome.com ...With as many episode guides avalible on the Internet, you'd THINK some people would stop living under a rock __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

01-02-2005, 10:18 AM	#6
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	the new series is completely seperate from the old. new look, correct characterisations, fantastic look all over. the turtles are normal...i mean, living hiding underground unlike the old goofy series where they're out i the open and nobody cares. many of the bad guys are out of the original comic books. some are new. Most of the stories are also right out of the comics with a little tweeking and adjustments...can't have Raph cussing all the time in the toon hahah "DAMN!" hehehe __________________

01-02-2005, 05:17 PM	#7
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Err.. in the original seires, they were treated like wanted fugitives, in the media and in the public eye, for several seasons, they only wore disguises when they had to travel around during the day, and only stalked the city as themselves either at night or when they had no choice but to act in the day. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

01-02-2005, 06:01 PM	#8
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Zarius, Laird himself complained that in the old toon: 1. The TMNT walked out in the open far too much and 2. Were fluffy, almost inflateable, like masey's parade balloons. What Buslady said was her "opinion." I love the old show, but it was like the 1970's Batman show, it camped the TMNT, made them more comical than their comic book counterparts. Heck, even the Archie TMNT had a harder edge than the middle year (seasons 3-6) TMNT episodes. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-24-2004, 05:17 PM	#3
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	Tsk, tsk, ZariusTwo don't be mean! I know how JJ feels, it's a lot easier to ask fans of the series who had watched it to summarize what happened rather than read tvtome guides that are really long. JJ, if I had watched the entire thing of the old toon I would summarize it for you, but I didn't. I'm like you, the last time I had watched the old toon when it was on tv was when I was that age.

09-24-2004, 06:30 PM	#4
Tigershard Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 469	I was in the same boat. Last time I watched the show was when I was very young. Now I've collected every episode of the old series and am making my way through it, and am caught up on the new series. I also went and score over 200 TMNT comic books, but I'm still missing about half the Adventures series. What would you specifically like to know?

01-02-2005, 09:52 AM	#5
JJ Thug Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: I kind of live in Sierra Vista, AZ and in Germany... Posts: 64	Man, you must have a lot of time. Ok. I would like to know if they created new enemies, if yes who is it, and what happened to the Turtles and why did they do the Turtle series look "new". Thanx, JJ

01-03-2005, 04:43 AM	#9
Irfit Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santiago , Chile. Posts: 47	The new TMNT cartoon is a kinda more "dark". The turtles must move and act in the darkness. Thats like the main difference between them, but the drawings of the second cartoon have (by far) more work

01-03-2005, 02:09 PM	#13
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,753	I agree with Zarius about the old toon's humour. It was waaaaay funnier than the new one's IMO. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

01-07-2005, 04:22 PM	#14
azure turtle Mango Lovin' Mutant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 9,453	Just to let folks know, the discussion about Germany has been split and moved to the GD: Everything Else under the title Where do you live? Please feel free to continue that conversation in the new thread. Thanks! __________________ "God, I love being a turtle!" Want to meet the only blue ninja turtle in existence? Come visit me at my Lair!

01-08-2005, 09:29 AM	#15
JJ Thug Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: I kind of live in Sierra Vista, AZ and in Germany... Posts: 64	OK, works for me