We just got served by Nintendo

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-15-2006, 03:16 PM

I think NIntendo just proved their point about the visuals in gaming.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Wii's at E3 were FAKES. The consoles sitting on the demo platforms were shells. Let me state this for the record.....

ALL GAMES YOU SAW AT E3 WERE RUNNING ON GAMECUBE HARDWARE WITH THE WII CONTROLLER HARDWIRED TO THEM FOR DEMO PURPOSES.

The final kits aren't even out yet, and won't be sent out until late June.

You know what this means? We all though tat was next-gen software, and it was running on Gamecube in 16:9 Progressive Scan the whole time. We have not seen the real visual power of the console at this time, and all assumption of the visual prowess is worthless at this point.

Yes, Nintendo just proved their point. Who gives a fu*k about graphics? WE WERE ALL PLAYING GAMECUBES!!!1!!1111!! Best goddamn news of the show.

Don't believe me? Here's the underside of the demo units...

and again, right under our noses...

So anybody b*tching about the graphics, stop. You've been looking at Gamecubes. And to anybody who thinks those were some georgious visuals at the show (like myself), you were looking at Gamecube's rigged to Wii controllers. The little purple box that could

We ain't seen nothing yet folks

I think Nintendo just proved their point about visuals after that stunt.

**Barkworm** · 05-15-2006, 03:22 PM

Yeah, I heard about this earlier today. I guess Smash Bros was the real deal though since it looked so much better than everything else (except Zelda). If all Wii games will look like that I'm more than satisfied.

Peanut · 05-15-2006, 03:25 PM

Um, wow. Nintendo is amazing. That's really awesome.

And yeah, I agree with Barkworm on this. I think SSB:B was the real Wii deal.

*Mecha Cow* · 05-15-2006, 03:51 PM

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that they used Wii hardware stored in 'Cube cases, as they are more roomy and they did not have production units yet. I doubt Super Mario Galaxy could run on a regular Gamecube.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-15-2006, 05:28 PM

-=wags finger=- Oh that Nintendo! What a trickster! =D

*cowabunga14* · 05-15-2006, 09:46 PM

Who'da thunk they could trick us like this? Well, this is something you don't see too often. I just hope they're able to explain themselves one of these days if their scheme gets revealed to more people.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-15-2006, 09:49 PM

That's pretty damn cool.

*XERO* · 05-15-2006, 10:22 PM

My name is Benvenuto... and I just got Punk'd.

**Barkworm** · 05-16-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that they used Wii hardware stored in 'Cube cases, as they are more roomy and they did not have production units yet. I doubt Super Mario Galaxy could run on a regular Gamecube.

Seems like everyone keeps hearing something different.

The last thing I heard was that it wasn't Wii hardware but the latest dev-kit (which is basically a souped up Cube). This makes the most sense to me since titles like Mario and Metroid looked slightly above GC standard. With the finalized kits everything should look like Smash Bros.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-16-2006, 12:52 AM

I do think I can live with everything look like Smash Bros.

Yeah... yeah, I think that'll work damn fine.

*Spitfire* · 05-17-2006, 12:12 AM

Explains why some old games look better then newer ones. Hell I've seen Playstation games that could almost pass off as PS2 games. ZOE 2 and The Bouncer are some of the best looking PS2 games*Looking better then alot of the new ones* So I guess this proves that the true power of our systems hasn't even been tapped.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-17-2006, 12:59 AM

Nope, which is why jumping into a new, expensive, generation is just damn silly.

Oh well.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-17-2006, 04:23 PM

It appears that Smash Bros was running on further along kits, but not the final ones. They don't have the final GPU's from ATI yet. Keep in mind, Nintendo spent just as much on these GPU's as Microsoft spent on their's. The final machine

It's also been confirmed that the modded Gamecubes we were playing at E3 were unmodified. If you'll notice, everything but Sonic, Mario, and Metroid Prime 3 were running at 30FPS rather than 60. This seemed off considering this was supposed to be next-gen, but now it makes sense. Games like Necro-Nesia (which was sh*t btw) looked like late-gen N64 in widescreen.

Again, the Gamecubes were unmodded outside of the hardwired controller. Gamecube could already do 480p and widescreen in it's sleep. Ladies and gentlemen, we're been pwned.

Gameplay is what matters. Graphics are a tool to deliver the gameplay. I think that's been proven. Expect better looking games by TGS.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-17-2006, 05:54 PM

The machine isn't finished. That's more than next-gen enough for me.

OA · 05-17-2006, 06:52 PM

Yea, that does look pretty sweet...

I think regardless of what was actually running at E3, we can expect cleaner graphics come Nov..but you're right- gameplay hands down is THE most important aspect...

*Hannah* · 05-17-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

That's pretty cool, but if you think about, pretty creepy. Cartoon-y characters do not do so well so... realistic. I mean, look at that nose!

*Anarky* · 05-17-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

The machine isn't finished. That's more than next-gen enough for me.

His hands look weird. The fingers are way too long. But it looks sort of impressing, especially his trousers. His shoes however... brown blobs.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-17-2006, 08:30 PM

Look again, there's tons of detials and highlights on his shoes.

And they've always been brown blobs anyway.

*Ecto Jedi* · 05-17-2006, 09:08 PM

How realistic can Mario get, really?

But seriously though, forget Gamecube or Wii. If you want the most realistic version of Mario ever presented, you won't find it in no video game. Enter: Super Mario Bros. The Movie.

Peanut · 05-17-2006, 09:29 PM

Un-called for! I don't believe there was a need to bring such a travesty up.

What upsets me about the movie is that the premise was good. They came up with a legit way to get Mario and Luigi into the Mushroom Kingdom. It just totally sucked at that point! I understand they couldn't have turtles and mushroom people running around everywhere, but why did they make them a bunch of gang-banging biker punks? Sad.

The one cool thing about that movie...the bob-omb scene. "LOOK OUT! HE'S GOT A BOB-OMB!" And Yoshi totally chewing the legs off that lady. Hardcore.

05-15-2006, 03:16 PM	#1
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	We just got served by Nintendo I think NIntendo just proved their point about the visuals in gaming. Ladies and gentlemen, the Wii's at E3 were FAKES. The consoles sitting on the demo platforms were shells. Let me state this for the record..... ALL GAMES YOU SAW AT E3 WERE RUNNING ON GAMECUBE HARDWARE WITH THE WII CONTROLLER HARDWIRED TO THEM FOR DEMO PURPOSES. The final kits aren't even out yet, and won't be sent out until late June. You know what this means? We all though tat was next-gen software, and it was running on Gamecube in 16:9 Progressive Scan the whole time. We have not seen the real visual power of the console at this time, and all assumption of the visual prowess is worthless at this point. Yes, Nintendo just proved their point. Who gives a fuk about graphics? WE WERE ALL PLAYING GAMECUBES!!!1!!1111!! Best goddamn news of the show. Don't believe me? Here's the underside of the demo units... and again, right under our noses... So anybody btching about the graphics, stop. You've been looking at Gamecubes. And to anybody who thinks those were some georgious visuals at the show (like myself), you were looking at Gamecube's rigged to Wii controllers. The little purple box that could We ain't seen nothing yet folks I think Nintendo just proved their point about visuals after that stunt. __________________

05-15-2006, 03:22 PM	#2
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,753	Yeah, I heard about this earlier today. I guess Smash Bros was the real deal though since it looked so much better than everything else (except Zelda). If all Wii games will look like that I'm more than satisfied. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

05-15-2006, 03:51 PM	#4
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that they used Wii hardware stored in 'Cube cases, as they are more roomy and they did not have production units yet. I doubt Super Mario Galaxy could run on a regular Gamecube. __________________

05-15-2006, 05:28 PM	#5
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	-=wags finger=- Oh that Nintendo! What a trickster! =D __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-15-2006, 09:46 PM	#6
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	Who'da thunk they could trick us like this? Well, this is something you don't see too often. I just hope they're able to explain themselves one of these days if their scheme gets revealed to more people. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

05-15-2006, 03:25 PM	#3
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Um, wow. Nintendo is amazing. That's really awesome. And yeah, I agree with Barkworm on this. I think SSB:B was the real Wii deal.

05-15-2006, 09:49 PM	#7
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	That's pretty damn cool.

05-15-2006, 10:22 PM	#8
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	My name is Benvenuto... and I just got Punk'd. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

05-16-2006, 12:52 AM	#10
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	I do think I can live with everything look like Smash Bros. Yeah... yeah, I think that'll work damn fine.

05-17-2006, 12:12 AM	#11
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Explains why some old games look better then newer ones. Hell I've seen Playstation games that could almost pass off as PS2 games. ZOE 2 and The Bouncer are some of the best looking PS2 gamesLooking better then alot of the new ones So I guess this proves that the true power of our systems hasn't even been tapped. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

05-17-2006, 12:59 AM	#12
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	Nope, which is why jumping into a new, expensive, generation is just damn silly. Oh well.

05-17-2006, 04:23 PM	#13
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	It appears that Smash Bros was running on further along kits, but not the final ones. They don't have the final GPU's from ATI yet. Keep in mind, Nintendo spent just as much on these GPU's as Microsoft spent on their's. The final machine It's also been confirmed that the modded Gamecubes we were playing at E3 were unmodified. If you'll notice, everything but Sonic, Mario, and Metroid Prime 3 were running at 30FPS rather than 60. This seemed off considering this was supposed to be next-gen, but now it makes sense. Games like Necro-Nesia (which was sh*t btw) looked like late-gen N64 in widescreen. Again, the Gamecubes were unmodded outside of the hardwired controller. Gamecube could already do 480p and widescreen in it's sleep. Ladies and gentlemen, we're been pwned. Gameplay is what matters. Graphics are a tool to deliver the gameplay. I think that's been proven. Expect better looking games by TGS. __________________

05-17-2006, 05:54 PM	#14
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	The machine isn't finished. That's more than next-gen enough for me. __________________

05-17-2006, 06:52 PM	#15
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Yea, that does look pretty sweet... I think regardless of what was actually running at E3, we can expect cleaner graphics come Nov..but you're right- gameplay hands down is THE most important aspect... __________________

05-17-2006, 08:30 PM	#18
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	Look again, there's tons of detials and highlights on his shoes. And they've always been brown blobs anyway.

05-17-2006, 09:08 PM	#19
Ecto Jedi Denki Wo Kitte Kudasai Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,439	How realistic can Mario get, really? But seriously though, forget Gamecube or Wii. If you want the most realistic version of Mario ever presented, you won't find it in no video game. Enter: Super Mario Bros. The Movie.

05-17-2006, 09:29 PM	#20
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Un-called for! I don't believe there was a need to bring such a travesty up. What upsets me about the movie is that the premise was good. They came up with a legit way to get Mario and Luigi into the Mushroom Kingdom. It just totally sucked at that point! I understand they couldn't have turtles and mushroom people running around everywhere, but why did they make them a bunch of gang-banging biker punks? Sad. The one cool thing about that movie...the bob-omb scene. "LOOK OUT! HE'S GOT A BOB-OMB!" And Yoshi totally chewing the legs off that lady. Hardcore.