To Support or Not Support FF

Zelda · 08-14-2006, 03:49 PM

I emailed Dan because I'm rather torn about watching FF to support TMNT, or not watching it to boycott the crap that's taken over what was a fantastic show. FF could be worse so I almost want to keep watching, but not if it keeps getting worse.

> If we don't support FF, do we risk loosing a 6th season?

If ratings and merchandise sales for FF are below expectations,
season six is very unlikely.

> If we do support FF, do we support a 6th season that continues in
> the vein of FF instead of returning 'home'?

No decision has been made in that regard, although more than likely,
FF would continue.

> What's the best way to get our opinions heard here? Do we just
> have to pray to the gods of ratings?

Ratings and merchandise sales will determine the series' future.

My decision... not watching it. I'll buy the Lost Season DVDs and hope that the contrast between those sales and the FF sales might give someone a hint that they had a good thing going.

*CyberCubed* · 08-14-2006, 03:52 PM

It really doesn't matter for us, Dan is talking about the kids.

I'm buying the FF toys and the DVDs (when they come out) because I'm enjoying the show. However, if you're not, why would you waste your money buying stuff just to keep the show afloat?

If FF is a success then Season 7 will be another 26 episode in the future. The basic rule of business is if you revamp something and it's a success, (which depends on if ratings/toy sales improve) then you keep doing what you're doing. If FF bombs, then everything ends here.

There is no middle ground. We're not going to get the TMNT back in the present again.

tortugapower · 08-14-2006, 04:12 PM

Was there ever official word on whether or not a Lost Season DVD would be released?

*CyberCubed* · 08-14-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tortugapower

Was there ever official word on whether or not a Lost Season DVD would be released?

Yes.

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4Kids Home Video plans to debut the entire "Ninja Tribunal" story arc on DVD in early 2007 - the exact number of episodes is unknown at this time, but it will probably consist of 10-13. This action-packed adventure will not be aired on TV anywhere in the US by that time - so they will be "straight-to-DVD" releases (at least in the United States - at the moment we're not sure if they'll air anywhere else in the world, but it seems unlikely). We'll post more info about "The Ninja Tribunal" DVDs on the site as soon as we hear more news from 4Kids.

Of course that was written a while ago, now we know for sure it's 13 episodes and 4kids put it on demand.

We'll still get it on DVD most likely.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 08-14-2006, 04:21 PM

The Ninja Tribunal arc is the last measure of 2k3 Turtles we are getting. It's Fast Forward from here on out. Sad that this era had to come to an end.

*Spitfire* · 08-14-2006, 04:31 PM

I love TMNT but I won't even buy FF on DVD...wow I really wish TMNT could go on I really do. I know alota people like FF but to hear that even if FF does well we won't get our TMNT back...well I'm at a loss for words.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-14-2006, 04:42 PM

A five season run, no matter how much Cubed will argue it, is'nt a failiure in any way shape or form, I'm fine with it ending on that number, counting the lost season as the fifth of course.

*Spitfire* · 08-14-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

A five season run, no matter how much Cubed will argue it, is'nt a failiure in any way shape or form, I'm fine with it ending on that number, counting the lost season as the fifth of course.

I know that's a good run but damn I'm going to miss the show.

cormano · 08-14-2006, 05:14 PM

i thought it was already decided long ago that fast forward would only last one season. wasn't that in the original announcement?

Krangstein · 08-14-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cormano

i thought it was already decided long ago that fast forward would only last one season. wasn't that in the original announcement?

That's what I thought too. But why does it have to be in the future to get better ratings and sell more toys? Can't they bring them to the present and still be more kid friendly???

X · 08-14-2006, 06:47 PM

The only thing that irks me is no conclusion (thus far) to the Karai storyline, and Bishop and Stockman storyline, and what happened to Chaplin.

If those three could get tied up I'd be satisfied with an end to the TMNT.

If FF answers those questions even that is fine and I will continue to watch it.

-X-

*PizzaPower* · 08-14-2006, 06:53 PM

what sucks about FF to me is the characters, where is the mirage badguys???????

*CyberCubed* · 08-14-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by X

The only thing that irks me is no conclusion (thus far) to the Karai storyline, and Bishop and Stockman storyline, and what happened to Chaplin.

If those three could get tied up I'd be satisfied with an end to the TMNT.

If FF answers those questions even that is fine and I will continue to watch it.

-X-

Bishop is supposed to appear in Fast Foward at some point, he's in the credits.

**Jester** · 08-14-2006, 09:17 PM

Bishop's in the credits, or the man who suplies his voice is in the credits? Because voice over actors can be more than one character.

tortugapower · 08-14-2006, 09:30 PM

Bishop's name is listed in the credits with his voice actor because he is in the show. The actor just happens to also do Darius Dunn's voice as well.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 08-14-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It really doesn't matter for us, Dan is talking about the kids.

I'm buying the FF toys and the DVDs (when they come out) because I'm enjoying the show. However, if you're not, why would you waste your money buying stuff just to keep the show afloat?

If FF is a success then Season 7 will be another 26 episode in the future. The basic rule of business is if you revamp something and it's a success, (which depends on if ratings/toy sales improve) then you keep doing what you're doing. If FF bombs, then everything ends here.

There is no middle ground. We're not going to get the TMNT back in the present again.

Man if thats the case. Then **** FF. I'm done with the show right then. It had a good run, I still hope there will be season sets of 1-4. I'll just stick with the comics.

TheShowstoppa · 08-14-2006, 10:28 PM

I'm still hoping on the possibility that we may get back to the 03 roots. Dan has been wrong before (it's rare, but it happens). These are supposed to be 26 stand-alone episodes in that they're the only ones that are supposed to take place in the future. If the format sticks (more funny and not as dark) then let them continue to the present and keep a slightly funnier version.

Everyone's freakin out about nothing. We're 3 eps into the season and we don't know the outcome yet. I would say hold your breath and wait to see what the turnout is.

Kaneda · 08-14-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShowstoppa

Everyone's freakin out about nothing. We're 3 eps into the season and we don't know the outcome yet. I would say hold your breath and wait to see what the turnout is.

I agree why freak out so early on.

**Jester** · 08-14-2006, 11:12 PM

I just have one question, and shoot me if you want, but does actually kinda liking Fast Forward(I'll admit it's not 2k3 TMNT, but it's still TMNT, and probably one of the best cartoons out there today) make me any less of a fan?

Just mull it over.

*VaughnMichael* · 08-15-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneda

I agree why freak out so early on.

because that what obsessed fans do wait no sorry I'm obsessed and I don't do that...hmm human nature?

08-14-2006, 03:49 PM	#1
Zelda Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 364	To Support or Not Support FF I emailed Dan because I'm rather torn about watching FF to support TMNT, or not watching it to boycott the crap that's taken over what was a fantastic show. FF could be worse so I almost want to keep watching, but not if it keeps getting worse. > If we don't support FF, do we risk loosing a 6th season? If ratings and merchandise sales for FF are below expectations, season six is very unlikely. > If we do support FF, do we support a 6th season that continues in > the vein of FF instead of returning 'home'? No decision has been made in that regard, although more than likely, FF would continue. > What's the best way to get our opinions heard here? Do we just > have to pray to the gods of ratings? Ratings and merchandise sales will determine the series' future. My decision... not watching it. I'll buy the Lost Season DVDs and hope that the contrast between those sales and the FF sales might give someone a hint that they had a good thing going. __________________ ~Zelda~ Author of Judgment: Volume I http://www.myspace.com/zellieberraine Inspired by what I love best about TMNT: character dynamics, superheroes that aren't of the Superman variety, genetics, etc

08-14-2006, 04:21 PM	#5
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	The Ninja Tribunal arc is the last measure of 2k3 Turtles we are getting. It's Fast Forward from here on out. Sad that this era had to come to an end. __________________

08-14-2006, 04:31 PM	#6
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I love TMNT but I won't even buy FF on DVD...wow I really wish TMNT could go on I really do. I know alota people like FF but to hear that even if FF does well we won't get our TMNT back...well I'm at a loss for words. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

08-14-2006, 04:42 PM	#7
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,298	A five season run, no matter how much Cubed will argue it, is'nt a failiure in any way shape or form, I'm fine with it ending on that number, counting the lost season as the fifth of course. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

08-14-2006, 05:14 PM	#9
cormano Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 225	i thought it was already decided long ago that fast forward would only last one season. wasn't that in the original announcement? __________________

08-14-2006, 03:52 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,699	It really doesn't matter for us, Dan is talking about the kids. I'm buying the FF toys and the DVDs (when they come out) because I'm enjoying the show. However, if you're not, why would you waste your money buying stuff just to keep the show afloat? If FF is a success then Season 7 will be another 26 episode in the future. The basic rule of business is if you revamp something and it's a success, (which depends on if ratings/toy sales improve) then you keep doing what you're doing. If FF bombs, then everything ends here. There is no middle ground. We're not going to get the TMNT back in the present again.

08-14-2006, 04:12 PM	#3
tortugapower Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 129	Was there ever official word on whether or not a Lost Season DVD would be released?

08-14-2006, 06:47 PM	#11
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	The only thing that irks me is no conclusion (thus far) to the Karai storyline, and Bishop and Stockman storyline, and what happened to Chaplin. If those three could get tied up I'd be satisfied with an end to the TMNT. If FF answers those questions even that is fine and I will continue to watch it. -X-

08-14-2006, 06:53 PM	#12
PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	what sucks about FF to me is the characters, where is the mirage badguys??????? __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

08-14-2006, 09:17 PM	#14
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Bishop's in the credits, or the man who suplies his voice is in the credits? Because voice over actors can be more than one character. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-14-2006, 09:30 PM	#15
tortugapower Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 129	Bishop's name is listed in the credits with his voice actor because he is in the show. The actor just happens to also do Darius Dunn's voice as well.

08-14-2006, 10:28 PM	#17
TheShowstoppa Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 629	I'm still hoping on the possibility that we may get back to the 03 roots. Dan has been wrong before (it's rare, but it happens). These are supposed to be 26 stand-alone episodes in that they're the only ones that are supposed to take place in the future. If the format sticks (more funny and not as dark) then let them continue to the present and keep a slightly funnier version. Everyone's freakin out about nothing. We're 3 eps into the season and we don't know the outcome yet. I would say hold your breath and wait to see what the turnout is. __________________ Courtesy of LUCKFF "I don't know what bothers me more; That this actually worked, or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet." - Mikey: Search for Splinter Pt. 1

08-14-2006, 11:12 PM	#19
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	I just have one question, and shoot me if you want, but does actually kinda liking Fast Forward(I'll admit it's not 2k3 TMNT, but it's still TMNT, and probably one of the best cartoons out there today) make me any less of a fan? Just mull it over. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656