Alopex = Karai?

*Donnie* · 01-15-2012, 12:59 AM

Think about it...it could be a far out notion, but it very well could add up...the fact that she has been trained, her connection with the 'Master'...

**Jester** · 01-15-2012, 01:02 AM

I wonder if she'll be IDW's Ninjara, an anthropomorphic fox who starts out as a villain and then becomes an ally.

Toby Barrett · 01-15-2012, 04:44 AM

I know I for one am extremely interested in where they'll take Alopex's character.
It's made pretty clear that the two Foot from issue 2 and 3 must have aquired some sample of the mutagen, I think.
I can't see Baxter making anymore freaks just for the sake of capturing five escaped ones.
I'm hoping Alopex shows up again soon enough.

*CyberCubed* · 01-15-2012, 10:20 PM

I can easily see Alopex becoming "good" after a while.

Some people might deny it now, but she really is similar to Ninjara with a new coat of paint. I wouldn't be surprised if they have the whole romance thing with Raphael too....its no surprise she debuted in his issue.

*Donnie* · 01-15-2012, 10:23 PM

You guys don't think there's a connection with Karai? I really think there could be...

*Powder* · 01-15-2012, 11:10 PM

You mockin' my Shredder/Hob thread, or do you honestly think that there is a connection?

*Donnie* · 01-15-2012, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

You mockin' my Shredder/Hob thread, or do you honestly think that there is a connection?

Not at all mocking, I honestly think there could be a connection. She's a trained ninja, and from the way Bebop & Rocksteady were talking to her in the last scene, I get the feeling she's not new to martial arts. I have a hunch her origin she told in Raph's micro is bogus. We saw Shredder's shadow, so they were in some sort of Shredder strong hold...idk, I think there is a slight possibility she could be Karai.

**Jester** · 01-16-2012, 12:01 AM

To paraphrase Mirage Mikey in Turtles Forever:
"She's supposed to be Karai in this universe, I don't see it."

Metropoliskid41 · 01-16-2012, 06:28 AM

I think the possibility definitely exists, I believe she has a better chance of being Karai than Ninjara with a new name. And here is why, I remember reading from either Tom or Bobby that they went with a new character instead of Alopex just for the reason of not wanting to feel obligated to make Ninjara turn into an ally and have a relationship with Raph. They felt like going with an existing character like Ninjara, they would be obligated to make her similar to how she was in the past and that fans would have a certain notion or bias on what direction they should take the character or where she should be at development wise in the book. The fact that they don't want to feel constrained with her, to me means that aside from being similar looking they won't have much in common. They don't want another Ninjara character, they want someone new, while her appearance may be a nod to Ninjara, I think her characterization will be completely different, so I'm definitely open to the possibility that she will end up being Karai. I hope that isn't the case, I think Karai is a formible opponent as a human ninja so hope we can have both, but I definitely see it as a possibility, especially if Hob does in fact turn out to be Oraku Saki (hope he isn't for the same reason) but it could still be cool.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 01-16-2012, 08:48 AM

I don't think she will be Karai as there is really no reason to make her such. I mean Hob/Shredder makes more since after all since Saki was alive at the same time Yoshi and his sons were. I don't want that to happen though. I'd rather see new characters and old. There has to be another way to bring Saki into the fold and the same with Karai other then making them mutants.

Toby Barrett · 01-16-2012, 08:55 AM

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. There's no real reason for her to be Karai at all. I believe Alopex's story was true for the most part, she just left out the part about her being trained to fight against the turtles.

TheCollector · 01-16-2012, 03:23 PM

Man, I sure hope not. I love the normal Karai, as cool as Alopex seems I don't want her replacing the Karai I love.

*Plasticplayhouse* · 01-16-2012, 06:30 PM

i dont see it. the ninjara idea seems more plausable to me.

scribblesartist · 01-19-2012, 09:17 AM

I can't see Kevin or Tom doing that @all. For the MOst part that Ive seen them do..is redefine what already exists in the TMNT continuity. Adding a twist now and again. It would Be a shame if they DO over flood this series with Mutants. I would not want to see this happen. We ALL know how the archie series turned out. lol No offense.

In order to keep the turtles unique. the fewer the mutants there are. In my opinion.

*Donnie* · 01-19-2012, 09:38 AM

I actually think Alopex being a re-imagined Karai would be uniquely awesome.

01-15-2012, 12:59 AM	#1
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	Alopex = Karai? Think about it...it could be a far out notion, but it very well could add up...the fact that she has been trained, her connection with the 'Master'...

01-15-2012, 01:02 AM	#2
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,297	I wonder if she'll be IDW's Ninjara, an anthropomorphic fox who starts out as a villain and then becomes an ally. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

01-16-2012, 12:01 AM	#8
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,297	To paraphrase Mirage Mikey in Turtles Forever: "She's supposed to be Karai in this universe, I don't see it." __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

01-16-2012, 06:28 AM	#9
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	I think the possibility definitely exists, I believe she has a better chance of being Karai than Ninjara with a new name. And here is why, I remember reading from either Tom or Bobby that they went with a new character instead of Alopex just for the reason of not wanting to feel obligated to make Ninjara turn into an ally and have a relationship with Raph. They felt like going with an existing character like Ninjara, they would be obligated to make her similar to how she was in the past and that fans would have a certain notion or bias on what direction they should take the character or where she should be at development wise in the book. The fact that they don't want to feel constrained with her, to me means that aside from being similar looking they won't have much in common. They don't want another Ninjara character, they want someone new, while her appearance may be a nod to Ninjara, I think her characterization will be completely different, so I'm definitely open to the possibility that she will end up being Karai. I hope that isn't the case, I think Karai is a formible opponent as a human ninja so hope we can have both, but I definitely see it as a possibility, especially if Hob does in fact turn out to be Oraku Saki (hope he isn't for the same reason) but it could still be cool. __________________ -------------------

01-16-2012, 06:30 PM	#13
Plasticplayhouse the gray ghost Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North East Posts: 2,194	i dont see it. the ninjara idea seems more plausable to me. __________________ Want to see more of my custom figures? http://plasticplayhouse.deviantart.com/

01-15-2012, 04:44 AM	#3
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	I know I for one am extremely interested in where they'll take Alopex's character. It's made pretty clear that the two Foot from issue 2 and 3 must have aquired some sample of the mutagen, I think. I can't see Baxter making anymore freaks just for the sake of capturing five escaped ones. I'm hoping Alopex shows up again soon enough.

01-15-2012, 10:20 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	I can easily see Alopex becoming "good" after a while. Some people might deny it now, but she really is similar to Ninjara with a new coat of paint. I wouldn't be surprised if they have the whole romance thing with Raphael too....its no surprise she debuted in his issue.

01-15-2012, 10:23 PM	#5
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	You guys don't think there's a connection with Karai? I really think there could be...

01-15-2012, 11:10 PM	#6
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	You mockin' my Shredder/Hob thread, or do you honestly think that there is a connection?

01-16-2012, 08:48 AM	#10
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I don't think she will be Karai as there is really no reason to make her such. I mean Hob/Shredder makes more since after all since Saki was alive at the same time Yoshi and his sons were. I don't want that to happen though. I'd rather see new characters and old. There has to be another way to bring Saki into the fold and the same with Karai other then making them mutants.

01-16-2012, 08:55 AM	#11
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. There's no real reason for her to be Karai at all. I believe Alopex's story was true for the most part, she just left out the part about her being trained to fight against the turtles.

01-16-2012, 03:23 PM	#12
TheCollector Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 293	Man, I sure hope not. I love the normal Karai, as cool as Alopex seems I don't want her replacing the Karai I love.

01-19-2012, 09:17 AM	#14
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	I can't see Kevin or Tom doing that @all. For the MOst part that Ive seen them do..is redefine what already exists in the TMNT continuity. Adding a twist now and again. It would Be a shame if they DO over flood this series with Mutants. I would not want to see this happen. We ALL know how the archie series turned out. lol No offense. In order to keep the turtles unique. the fewer the mutants there are. In my opinion.

01-19-2012, 09:38 AM	#15
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	I actually think Alopex being a re-imagined Karai would be uniquely awesome.