Shrdder's origin

ninjaturtles · 05-19-2003, 10:53 AM

I was looking at X-Men's Silver Samurai and the Daredevil's arch-villian, the Claw. And, i was wondering if Shredder was originated from any of these two characters. Or was there a Daredevil character called "Grate Man"?

~~TheShredder~~ · 05-19-2003, 01:29 PM

Shrdder?

*Jephael* · 05-19-2003, 02:29 PM

Actually, Kevin Eastman explained in the "Behind the Shells" video that when they were coming up with ideas for the characters, he had slid his arm into a rectangular cheese grater, which is where they came up with the idea for Shedder's gaunlets.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 05-19-2003, 07:39 PM

Personally, I think the creators of the original toon had Darth Vader in mind when they were making that version of Shredder...

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-19-2003, 08:03 PM

I thought movie Shredder was more Vader-ish than old cartoon Shredder.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 05-19-2003, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus

I thought movie Shredder was more Vader-ish than old cartoon Shredder.

Oh really?

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-19-2003, 09:31 PM

Yes, I already saw that

now read this movie quote:

Quote:

This is your family, I am your father!

Also, did you ever notice the very deep voice... hmmm...

Sparvid · 05-20-2003, 04:58 AM

I'm guessing that the influence for Shredder's and Vader's helmets comes from Japan.

Pepzi · 05-20-2003, 05:19 AM

lol, i never would of thought of it like that but maybe he is!

~~TheShredder~~ · 05-20-2003, 01:41 PM

Krangfan · 05-20-2003, 06:17 PM

WOW! lol, I remember watching the first movie and being like "wow, sounds a lot like Vader!"

*Jephael* · 05-20-2003, 06:18 PM

Right but this time he even looks more like Vader.

~~TheShredder~~ · 05-21-2003, 01:24 PM

Mmmm I wonder who would win in a fight?

**Karpo_007** · 05-21-2003, 01:28 PM

Lightsaber can cut trough Almost anything, Shredder wouldn't stand a chance...

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-21-2003, 02:22 PM

Actually, if we can draw parallels between the force and chi. Then Shredder can use his Ninja stealth skills to not be sensed by Vader's Jedi ability to sense Shredder's presense.(Perhaps the "Jin" Kuji-In skill would help) Then all Shredder has to do is sneak up behind Vader and jam his gauntlet claws into Vader's respirator.
Alternately, Shredder can use his Taijutsu skills to disarm Vader thus denying him the Lightsaber that you mentioned. Then Shredder would have the definate advantage.
So you see It's Vader who wouldn't stand a chance.

Sparvid · 05-21-2003, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Lightsaber can cut trough Almost anything, Shredder wouldn't stand a chance...

But Vader isn't quite as fast and agile as Shredder...

~~TheShredder~~ · 05-21-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Lightsaber can cut trough Almost anything, Shredder wouldn't stand a chance...

So can Shredders claw......

*Raven* · 05-21-2003, 03:19 PM

a fight between shredder and darth well cant you tell who would win
its so clear and easy to tell the winner would be

ME

*Jephael* · 05-21-2003, 03:24 PM

Atleast the idea of those two duking it out makes better sense than Splinter and Professor Xavier.

Moomintroll · 06-02-2003, 06:22 PM

Shredder is way cuter than Vader...... IMHO....

05-19-2003, 10:53 AM	#1
ninjaturtles Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 30	Shrdder's origin I was looking at X-Men's Silver Samurai and the Daredevil's arch-villian, the Claw. And, i was wondering if Shredder was originated from any of these two characters. Or was there a Daredevil character called "Grate Man"?

05-19-2003, 02:29 PM	#3
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Actually, Kevin Eastman explained in the "Behind the Shells" video that when they were coming up with ideas for the characters, he had slid his arm into a rectangular cheese grater, which is where they came up with the idea for Shedder's gaunlets. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

05-19-2003, 08:03 PM	#5
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	I thought movie Shredder was more Vader-ish than old cartoon Shredder. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

05-20-2003, 05:19 AM	#9
Pepzi Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sewer Posts: 419	lol, i never would of thought of it like that but maybe he is! __________________

05-20-2003, 06:17 PM	#11
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	WOW! lol, I remember watching the first movie and being like "wow, sounds a lot like Vader!" __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

05-19-2003, 01:29 PM	#2
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442	Shrdder?

05-19-2003, 07:39 PM	#4
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Personally, I think the creators of the original toon had Darth Vader in mind when they were making that version of Shredder...

05-20-2003, 04:58 AM	#8
Sparvid Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Östersund, Sweden Posts: 860	I'm guessing that the influence for Shredder's and Vader's helmets comes from Japan.

05-20-2003, 01:41 PM	#10
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442

05-20-2003, 06:18 PM	#12
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Right but this time he even looks more like Vader. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

05-21-2003, 01:24 PM	#13
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442	Mmmm I wonder who would win in a fight?

05-21-2003, 01:28 PM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Lightsaber can cut trough Almost anything, Shredder wouldn't stand a chance...

05-21-2003, 02:22 PM	#15
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Actually, if we can draw parallels between the force and chi. Then Shredder can use his Ninja stealth skills to not be sensed by Vader's Jedi ability to sense Shredder's presense.(Perhaps the "Jin" Kuji-In skill would help) Then all Shredder has to do is sneak up behind Vader and jam his gauntlet claws into Vader's respirator. Alternately, Shredder can use his Taijutsu skills to disarm Vader thus denying him the Lightsaber that you mentioned. Then Shredder would have the definate advantage. So you see It's Vader who wouldn't stand a chance. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

05-21-2003, 03:19 PM	#18
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	a fight between shredder and darth well cant you tell who would win its so clear and easy to tell the winner would be ME __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

05-21-2003, 03:24 PM	#19
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Atleast the idea of those two duking it out makes better sense than Splinter and Professor Xavier. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

06-02-2003, 06:22 PM	#20
Moomintroll Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Somewhere between being and becoming... Posts: 878	Shredder is way cuter than Vader...... IMHO....