The "REAL" Best Wrestler of all time...

[redsai4lex]

The last thread like this had VERY poor choices of wrestlers,...
so I am posting a Better poll,............



Randy Savage

[Leo656]

Hogan, as per usual.

And thankfully, Rock is nowhere to be found in this poll. Good job.

[redsai4lex]

i know, Rock sucks!!!!!!!!!!

[Reznorite420]

Originally Posted by Red Raphael

The last thread like this had VERY poor choices of wrestlers,...
so I am posting a Better poll,............

Well, then tell us when you make it, because this one still doesn't have good choices (*coughFoleycough*)

[Shellfox]

I said Andre, but Hogan is his equal, the only reason I say Andre is better is because he in a way made Hogan. Yes since allie with Vince Jr he had been on the fast track to super stardom, but Andre was still the man in charge. He was the old school, the old guard, at wrestlemania 3 he choose to pass the torch to Hogan, to make him the new icon. And lets face it, with his power if he didn't want to lose to hogan there was nothing that could make him lose. Andre is and will always be a ledgend, both for his phisical size, his presence, and his work ethic. He was in pain due to his size and he still wrestled, he wabted to give the fans the best and for that he was the best. And from what I understand among the wrestlers there was no one that didn't like and respect the man both in and out of the ring. That and the man could drink an entire case of wine and not get wasted.

[That Matt Guy]

I would say Sick Boy, but out of those I'll go with Hogan. He has acomplished so much in his career, and is still a household name.

[Taloniss]

Great Sasuke, Jushin Lyger, Lou Thez.

[Raven]

i'll go with hulk hogan
hes my favorite out of all of those
if you had brock lesner(sp) i would of chose him only because hes from minnesota

[Brodie]

Andy Kaufman

[EZweasel]

the rock doesnt realy suck at wrestling.i only like him as a bad guy though. hes got some good punches. but hogan is the best in my opinion. No one else comes close

[Leo656]

Ever notice Rock copied Scott Hall's punching style exactly? Smart move, cuz I think Hall throws the best punches in the business.

And apologies to those who may feel otherwise, but nobody with a repertoire consisting of a DDT, jamming their fingers in someone's mouth, hitting people with chairs, falling off of high places, and nothing else, even comes close to being one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Mick Foley definitely made a mark on the industry, but how big of one? Twenty years from now, people will be talking about his fall off the Cell, and that's ALL. He didn't make nearly as big a contribution as is necessary to be considered one of the greatest of all time. He took a few big bumps. He's also 35, brain damaged, and can't bend his knees. He gets lost driving home from the supermarket. This is NOT a man we should be admiring, this is a man we should pity, and pray that nobody tries to follow in his footsteps and become the new "king of hardcore".

Hitting people with chairs and falling through tables isn't wrestling. I'm sorry, but it just isn't. I can't argue with any names on this list, except maybe Hall and even Nash to a lesser extent, but each of them made a much bigger contribution to wrestling than Foley did. Though some might say Bruno Sammartino deserves to be included, but I'm guessing most people here never even saw him wrestle so his omission is understandable.

[TMNTGUY4EVER]

I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE BEST WRESTLER OF ALL TIME IS HULK HOGAN... THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE HES DONE IT ALL

[EZweasel]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Ever notice Rock copied Scott Hall's punching style exactly? Smart move, cuz I think Hall throws the best punches in the business.

And apologies to those who may feel otherwise, but nobody with a repertoire consisting of a DDT, jamming their fingers in someone's mouth, hitting people with chairs, falling off of high places, and nothing else, even comes close to being one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Mick Foley definitely made a mark on the industry, but how big of one? Twenty years from now, people will be talking about his fall off the Cell, and that's ALL. He didn't make nearly as big a contribution as is necessary to be considered one of the greatest of all time. He took a few big bumps. He's also 35, brain damaged, and can't bend his knees. He gets lost driving home from the supermarket. This is NOT a man we should be admiring, this is a man we should pity, and pray that nobody tries to follow in his footsteps and become the new "king of hardcore".

Hitting people with chairs and falling through tables isn't wrestling. I'm sorry, but it just isn't. I can't argue with any names on this list, except maybe Hall and even Nash to a lesser extent, but each of them made a much bigger contribution to wrestling than Foley did. Though some might say Bruno Sammartino deserves to be included, but I'm guessing most people here never even saw him wrestle so his omission is understandable.

its all about show, it doesnt only take good wrestling skill to be a good wrestler, look at dean malenko. he can do about everything, but he's still a pile of trash...he has no personality. to be the best wrestler in the industry you need to have a good gimick/personality, good carism, a nice set of moves, good finisher, etc. just anything to get the crowd goin. the leg drop is one of the best finishers of all time and i love hogans style. hes not the most fancy, but it looks awsum when he does it.

[Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Red Raphael

The last thread like this had VERY poor choices of wrestlers,...
so I am posting a Better poll,............



Randy Savage

Oh, come off your high pedestal. If you had read the entire thread, you would have noticed that half the names on my list were supposed to be a joke. Like anyone would vote for Doink the Clown or Kama. I even said in one of my posts that they were a joke. Open your eyes, pal.

I also stated that I tried to list more "real" wrestlers (to use your term), but they were cut off at Steve Austin.

So get your head out of the clouds thinking you're all high and mighty. Better poll, my butt.

Anyway, my pick is the Excellence of Execution, Bret Hart.

"I came to the WCW to earn a reputation, not to lose it!" - Bret Hart, in Toronto, Canada, on March 29, 1999.

[Leo656]

...but... but people DID vote for Doink the Clown...

[That Matt Guy]

Why not make a thread for the"worst wrestler of all time" I could think of about 30 people though.

[Reznorite420]

Originally Posted by Leo656

And apologies to those who may feel otherwise, but nobody with a repertoire consisting of a DDT, jamming their fingers in someone's mouth, hitting people with chairs, falling off of high places, and nothing else, even comes close to being one of the greatest wrestlers of all time.

Then...what does? Talk? Punching people with wimpy fake punches? Then in that case I might as well say that TMNT 2 was better than TMNT 1 because it was goofier and had less action...

Originally Posted by Leo656

Twenty years from now, people will be talking about his fall off the Cell, and that's ALL.

What about the I Quit match against the Rock? What about the premiere of Dude Love? (which was in my current hometown, BTW) What about the tale of his ear being cut off? What about the goings on between him and Terry Funk? What about that famed interview with Jim Ross where he gives him the Mandible Claw at the end? That's a classic. You obviously know nothing about Foley.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Hitting people with chairs and falling through tables isn't wrestling. I'm sorry, but it just isn't.

See my first quote.

Originally Posted by Leo656

each of them made a much bigger contribution to wrestling than Foley did.

List these contributions, and I'll be the judge of if they even remotely compare to what Foley did in his career.

All in all, you mean to say that cheap talk, fake punches, corny signature moves, bad acting, lousy participations in arcs, and STUPID gimmicks (yes, Foley had gimmicks just like all pro wrestlers, but at least they were good gimmicks) make a better wrestler than not knowing the definition of pain, risking your life for the sake of entertaining people (voluntarily, at that), enduring numerous batterings and C-4 explosions, landing on an entire floor of thumb-tacks on your back and still going strong, and just having basically un-ending stamina in those matches? Wow, pat yourself on the back, Leo. You just won the "Memeber with the Most Flawed Logic" award.[/sarcasm]

Foley has/had guts, which is why I admire him. He found pleasure in pain both in and out of character. Unlike a lot of "wrestlers" today, sometimes he didn't want to play along with the choreographed arcs (e.g., he truly did not want to say "I quit" in that infamous match with Rock, so they had to use a recording of his voice during that Royal Rumble) and he sort of hates the idea of pro wrestling being fake altogether.

Let me ask you this. If Foley wasn't that great a wrestler, then:

1) Why did he not only make many wrestling headlines, but also write not one, but TWO autobiographies (well, at least one, I don't know if "Foley Is Good" is by him or not) written extensively? Don't forget that video "Faces of Foley"; I don't think he would get so much as that if he wasn't a legend. I don't see any books/videos on these guys that you claim to have "contributions" to wrestling.

2) Why have I seen (in the past anyway) the fans become totally ecstatic whenever his name is even mentioned? Remember the events leading up to the 2000 Backlash? While it ended up not being him, people were hoping that Foley would be alongside the Rock during that title match. I'm pretty sure nobody would suggest him if he didn't make an impact in the wrestling world.

And so what if he has brain damage now? At least he wasn't afraid of getting it during his heydays. I don't see anybody else not giving a second thought about what might come if they hurt themselves too hard. Foley didn't give a crap. Now THAT is courage right there!

Yeah, that's another thing, you're being extremely fallacious saying his PRESENT condition is cause for him to not be admired. Last I checked, Foley doesn't wrestle anymore. I believe the aim of choosisng your favorite wrestler is based on him/her AS a wrestler, not as what they are afterwards. I'm basing my admiration of Foley on the days of before he was in the state he's in now. His current handicaps are irrelevant to my opinon of him AS A WRESTLER.

Thank you, and good night/day, depending on your time zone

[Taloniss]

Let me ask you this. If Foley wasn't that great a wrestler, then:

1) Why did he not only make many wrestling headlines, but also write not one, but TWO autobiographies (well, at least one, I don't know if "Foley Is Good" is by him or not) written extensively? Don't forget that video "Faces of Foley"; I don't think he would get so much as that if he wasn't a legend. I don't see any books/videos on these guys that you claim to have "contributions" to wrestling.

2) Why have I seen (in the past anyway) the fans become totally ecstatic whenever his name is even mentioned? Remember the events leading up to the 2000 Backlash? While it ended up not being him, people were hoping that Foley would be alongside the Rock during that title match. I'm pretty sure nobody would suggest him if he didn't make an impact in the wrestling world

The first one has nothing to do with wrestling. The second one means he got over with fans, because of his gimmick/personality, not necessarily because of his in-ring ability.

[Supermik]

Hulk Hogan! I watch on SAT TV some match. Beautiful sport... but for me that i'm italian i like Soccer, F1 and Sky.

[Fugitoid Jones]

If this was a real best wrestler of all time poll, it would have names like Bruno Sammartino, Lou Thesz, Freddie Blassie, Verne Gagne, Gorgeous George, Killer Kowalski, Arn Anderson, Mr. Fuji and Mad Dog Vachon, instead of names of wrestlers who have been popular in the past decade. Of course, I understand why those name aren't on there, because most of the people on this forum have probably never heard of some of these names.