I'm going to go ahead and put it out there

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 01:48 PM

Do you believe in the Illuminati? Simple question.

*Prowler* · 12-19-2014, 01:49 PM

No, not at all.

What a weird thread to make, btw.

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 01:52 PM

I only made this topic because there is a lot of speculation on the internet that such an organization exists. I'd just like to know if they are real or not. I figured they were not real or no longer around in today's world, but there is enough doubt that it makes me wonder if they are real.

slashpieturtlemix · 12-19-2014, 01:52 PM

I do not believe in it because I see it as impossible to pull off.

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 01:55 PM

That's a good point. It would be hard to pull off. It is a complicated world with various types of governments, so the idea that there is a puppet master seems highly unlikely.

When it comes to the Illuminati's existence, I'm agnostic though. They might be real, but my doubt of their existence is not an affirmation that I think they are real.

*Prowler* · 12-19-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterTurtle

I only made this topic because there is a lot of speculation on the internet that such an organization exists. I'd just like to know if they are real or not. I figured they were not real or no longer around in today's world, but there is enough doubt that it makes me wonder if they are real.

And how does people on this forum believing in such organization or not influence your opinion? I seriously doubt anyone here has a seat in the U.N or something of the sort.

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

And how does people on this forum believing in such organization or not influence your opinion? I seriously doubt anyone here has a seat in the U.N or something of the sort.

I just wanted to know if anyone on this forum believed in the existence of such an organization. If there were many believers, then that might sway me to believe in such an organization's existence. However, if the majority agree that such an organization does not exist, then I would have to think that there is not such an organization. In addition to this, anyone who believes in such an organization would have to have credible evidence. It is something I was wondering about, whether or not this organization existed, and I wanted to know what other people here thought.

*Prowler* · 12-19-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterTurtle

I just wanted to know if anyone on this forum believed in the existence of such an organization. If there were many believers, then that might sway me to believe in such an organization's existence. However, if the majority agree that such an organization does not exist, then I would have to think that there is not such an organization. In addition to this, anyone who believes in such an organization would have to have credible evidence. It is something I was wondering about, whether or not this organization existed, and I wanted to know what other people here thought.

Most people in the world are religious or believe in some sort of god or deity. That doesn't make me and many others believe in it.

I doubt most people actually believe in the Illuminati. The "Illuminati" are simply the rules of the most powerful countries and also owners of the biggest corporations. Who else could possibly be above them?

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 12-19-2014, 02:04 PM

IMO, there is no evidence to suggest that they exist at all, so, no I don't believe the Illuminati exists

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 02:17 PM

Yeah! I read the official super-secret twitter all the time!

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

IMO, there is no evidence to suggest that they exist at all, so, no I don't believe the Illuminati exists

No evidence, so there's no reason to believe the Illuminati exists. Okay, you convinced me. Illuminati is in the same category as the Loch Ness monster now.

By the way, Bionicle is back, I found the 2015 Toa for sale online.

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterTurtle

By the way, Bionicle is back, I found the 2015 Toa for sale online.

Sweet. Do you think the Illuminati put it up early?

~~Super Goku~~ · 12-19-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

Sweet. Do you think the Illuminati put it up early?

Probably. The construction of each Lego set is a metaphor for a plan that is being constructed for world domination. The pieces finally come together to create one entity.

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterTurtle

Probably. The construction of each Lego set is a metaphor for a plan that is being constructed for world domination. The pieces finally come together to create one entity.

That's deep.

*IndigoErth* · 12-19-2014, 02:40 PM

I could be willing to believe some old-time boys club, esp those of affluence and social or political power, might have wanted to think of themselves that way, or conspiracy theorist sorts outside those little groups deciding they're up to something like that. But legitimately...? Nah, really doubt it.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 02:43 PM

So... you're asking if I believe in a... New World Order...?

Spoiler:

......Obviously.

*BubblyShell22* · 12-19-2014, 03:48 PM

4 Life, bro. 4 Life.

But in all seriousness, I don't believe in the Illuminati as you describe it. However, my advice would be to not let what anyone else says dictate what you believe in. There are people who believe in God and have faith in religion, but I don't and I intend to keep it that way.

Gunpowder · 12-19-2014, 03:58 PM

You sure know how to make attention-grabbing titles, I'll give you that.

*Netkeeper* · 12-19-2014, 04:03 PM

*blindturtle02* · 12-19-2014, 05:13 PM

Nah. Don't believe in them either. I'm sure there are some shady folk in political circles but I guess that's about it. Maybe such an organization would devour itself if one ever existed. I'd hope there were more people in positions of authority who were willing to better humankind rather than to further the ambitions of themselves and a few of their pals eager to gain wealth and influence for greed's sake. I do believe that there are crooked individuals doing these sorts of things to further their own ends, but you see people like that in all sorts of professions. They're usually out for themselves and that's about it, really. Just look what happens to US government when neither of our parties are able to agree on anything for a while. A whole lot of nothing. I'm thinking of that brief shut down in 2013. I mean, those guys fight like a bunch of siblings but I'd like to think the majority have the people's best interests at heart. US does alright as a nation when we stop being silly and screaming at each other. We really do. That's all I'll say about government because I don't really like talking politics that much and I try to be an optimist most of the time if I can help it. Anyway, if Illuminati does exist, I bet they argue quite a bit longer and don't get anything done if they're in it for themselves. Seems like the inability to listen to the opinions of others and to work together to come up with a solution to such and such a problem often results in quite a bit of stagnation no matter the group. That's what I imagine is going on if such a group does exist. Especially if they're all self-centered old guys. Who knows? Haven't put too much thought into the Illuminati so I might be way off. haha

I do wonder how all these rumors of Illuminati got started, however. Maybe some small group of filthy rich guys started it in the 40's or so to see how a tun of conspiracy theorists would embellish it. Maybe their descendants just sit around reading that stuff and laughing about it every week? My fiancee and I spent a little time trying to find out possible motives of this supposed cabal. Making money? Ruling the world like Saturday morning cartoon villains? Furthering the order of,"Saaaatan?" Just meeting together once a week to have ribs and play pool or cards and waving a bunch of money at each other while arguing about everything and nothing simply for argument's sake? Same as that old-time boys club Indigo spoke of, probably. That's what I've always believed since there's really not any hard evidence to go on. A tun of opinions out there, but not too terribly much in the way of facts. It's just my opinion, but I imagine people make them out to be a lot more powerful than they would be in actuality. I've forgotten what they're supposed to have their sticky fingers into. Everything, if memory serves correctly. A couple profs touched upon them briefly when I was in college but not all that much. I also had an x who was deep into all sorts of conspiracy stuff. Still is from what my mom says. I remember my x saying that They shaped Washington DC's streets like a few of their symbols. Something to that nature anyway. More power to her if that's what she still chooses to believe. I was always afraid that she'd fall in with one of those groups who use scare tactics to make people cough up a bunch of money in order to keep it safe from Illuminati, only to find themselves scammed in the end. The girl I'm now going to marry says that I should just watch 24 because that's more entertaining fiction than the stuff she and I tried wading through online. What can I say? Some of the shows we watch inspire us to do research for curiosity's sake sometimes. Neat topic, Mt. Best of luck to you deciding what to believe here. This is more fun than Christmas shopping. I dread the crowds, hence sitting here and reading everyone's responses.

12-19-2014, 01:48 PM	#1
~~Super Goku~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 445	I'm going to go ahead and put it out there Do you believe in the Illuminati? Simple question.

12-19-2014, 01:52 PM	#4
slashpieturtlemix Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 1,259	I do not believe in it because I see it as impossible to pull off. __________________ Owner of Hkohles1gaming, kohlesgoods, and hkohles1. https://www.youtube.com/user/hkohles1 https://www.ebay.com/usr/kohlesgoods https://www.facebook.com/hkohles1gaming

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Whatswiththeheadbands? The Weed of Crime Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Shadow's Sanctum Posts: 3,007	IMO, there is no evidence to suggest that they exist at all, so, no I don't believe the Illuminati exists __________________ Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of Men? The Shadow knows...

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BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	4 Life, bro. 4 Life. But in all seriousness, I don't believe in the Illuminati as you describe it. However, my advice would be to not let what anyone else says dictate what you believe in. There are people who believe in God and have faith in religion, but I don't and I intend to keep it that way. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

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Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	You sure know how to make attention-grabbing titles, I'll give you that. __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

12-19-2014, 01:49 PM	#2
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	No, not at all. What a weird thread to make, btw.

12-19-2014, 01:55 PM	#5
~~Super Goku~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 445	That's a good point. It would be hard to pull off. It is a complicated world with various types of governments, so the idea that there is a puppet master seems highly unlikely. When it comes to the Illuminati's existence, I'm agnostic though. They might be real, but my doubt of their existence is not an affirmation that I think they are real.

12-19-2014, 02:17 PM	#10
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Yeah! I read the official super-secret twitter all the time!

12-19-2014, 02:40 PM	#15
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	I could be willing to believe some old-time boys club, esp those of affluence and social or political power, might have wanted to think of themselves that way, or conspiracy theorist sorts outside those little groups deciding they're up to something like that. But legitimately...? Nah, really doubt it.

12-19-2014, 02:43 PM	#16
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	So... you're asking if I believe in a... New World Order...? Spoiler: ......Obviously.

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Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	__________________

12-19-2014, 05:13 PM	#20
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Nah. Don't believe in them either. I'm sure there are some shady folk in political circles but I guess that's about it. Maybe such an organization would devour itself if one ever existed. I'd hope there were more people in positions of authority who were willing to better humankind rather than to further the ambitions of themselves and a few of their pals eager to gain wealth and influence for greed's sake. I do believe that there are crooked individuals doing these sorts of things to further their own ends, but you see people like that in all sorts of professions. They're usually out for themselves and that's about it, really. Just look what happens to US government when neither of our parties are able to agree on anything for a while. A whole lot of nothing. I'm thinking of that brief shut down in 2013. I mean, those guys fight like a bunch of siblings but I'd like to think the majority have the people's best interests at heart. US does alright as a nation when we stop being silly and screaming at each other. We really do. That's all I'll say about government because I don't really like talking politics that much and I try to be an optimist most of the time if I can help it. Anyway, if Illuminati does exist, I bet they argue quite a bit longer and don't get anything done if they're in it for themselves. Seems like the inability to listen to the opinions of others and to work together to come up with a solution to such and such a problem often results in quite a bit of stagnation no matter the group. That's what I imagine is going on if such a group does exist. Especially if they're all self-centered old guys. Who knows? Haven't put too much thought into the Illuminati so I might be way off. haha I do wonder how all these rumors of Illuminati got started, however. Maybe some small group of filthy rich guys started it in the 40's or so to see how a tun of conspiracy theorists would embellish it. Maybe their descendants just sit around reading that stuff and laughing about it every week? My fiancee and I spent a little time trying to find out possible motives of this supposed cabal. Making money? Ruling the world like Saturday morning cartoon villains? Furthering the order of,"Saaaatan?" Just meeting together once a week to have ribs and play pool or cards and waving a bunch of money at each other while arguing about everything and nothing simply for argument's sake? Same as that old-time boys club Indigo spoke of, probably. That's what I've always believed since there's really not any hard evidence to go on. A tun of opinions out there, but not too terribly much in the way of facts. It's just my opinion, but I imagine people make them out to be a lot more powerful than they would be in actuality. I've forgotten what they're supposed to have their sticky fingers into. Everything, if memory serves correctly. A couple profs touched upon them briefly when I was in college but not all that much. I also had an x who was deep into all sorts of conspiracy stuff. Still is from what my mom says. I remember my x saying that They shaped Washington DC's streets like a few of their symbols. Something to that nature anyway. More power to her if that's what she still chooses to believe. I was always afraid that she'd fall in with one of those groups who use scare tactics to make people cough up a bunch of money in order to keep it safe from Illuminati, only to find themselves scammed in the end. The girl I'm now going to marry says that I should just watch 24 because that's more entertaining fiction than the stuff she and I tried wading through online. What can I say? Some of the shows we watch inspire us to do research for curiosity's sake sometimes. Neat topic, Mt. Best of luck to you deciding what to believe here. This is more fun than Christmas shopping. I dread the crowds, hence sitting here and reading everyone's responses. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.