[FS] TMNT Vol. 4 #1-32, Volume 3 #1-23 and Tales of the TMNT #70

[Red Robin]

Hi there,

I am going to sell some of my TMNT books.
In detail it is the complete run of Volume 4 including #1-32 (except #31 which was of course only online released). #32 is signed and sketched by Peter Laird.
Also I am selling a complete run of Volume 3 including #1-23 and a copy of Tales of the TMNT #70.

The books are in great condition.

If you are interested let me know and send me a PM with an offer.

Thank you!

[rickwj324]

I'm very interested, but would you mind posting a ballpark figure on how much you want? Thanks! Rick

[Peter Palmer]

I know it's not a rule here that sellers should list prices instead of just soliciting offers (though it really should be). Whenever I see a thread that says "PM me with an offer", I feel like the person isn't really interested in selling and is just looking for a free appraisal (most of the time).

That said, I'm certainly interested. I'll check back from time to time to see if a price gets posted.

[MiamiTurtles3434]

I agree 100% with Peter Palmer there should a rule in the in the forums that a price should be listed of a item is being sold. Even if it's a ridicules one..

[Red Robin]

Well, I sure don't need an appraisal. I know what the books are worth and I am not going dictate people the price regions where they begin to make offers. Whether people take this serious and fair or they don't.

And I don't think this is the place for debates of forum principles, Mr. Palmer. You could have gone to any other thread to post your opinion. But why here? And why are you throwing around with conjectures? I could also assume you are just looking for some people you can exploit by them posting cheap prices? Where is the sense in that? This is just outing you to see if you can get an appraisal whether you can afford it or not. Nice try.

[Sofistocat]

Whoa horsie, whoa...

If one makes a FS post, it's presumed you are willing to part with said items. Given your location and subsequent shipping costs related to being across the pond, it's understandable that shipping fees would be seen as a premium to those from the US, which is the region the majority of drome members hail from.

If you "know" what these books go for, then why not post a price either here or via PM? I'm only interjecting because this is not the first post you've made regarding these books and the concerns being voiced are somewhat valid. Not disclosing a price does raise a flag or two as to your motives. I have to agree with what's been said here. Requesting offers does point to wanting your items valued or points to you wanting top dollar. No harm in either, but call it what it is...

P.Palmer has just as much a right to post here as you do to make a fresh post without the opinions expressed...

And assuming these comments are based in trying to lowball you is not good business practice. You catch more flys with honey than vinegar friend.

[Red Robin]

Wow, this is really going way too far for me.
Well, questioning motives is the next step because I don't name a price? This is taking a weird direction now. So all the other FS-threads have questionable motives if they don't have a price tag or else?
And I am selling more these books again. Yes. So what's the point? I'm not allowed to sell two copies of the same book? Because this is what you're saying, spasmodic ignoring the peoples feedback in these threads you seem to follow and count meticulously.
This is taking a really weird direction. You can't just try convulsively to make a logic applied if it doesn't grasp buddy.

And finally: Sure, I could now write down all the shipping costs. But you know what? The shipping costs for a single copy of a book isn't as high as for a complete run of Volume 4. And as long I don't know what a person is looking for, there is no sense in calculating all different constellations of combined books.

[Sofistocat]

You're inferences are off base and your taking offense to things you shouldn't. Nobody is attacking you, it was simply an observation that does have validity. Not all FS threads that solicit offers have questionable motives. However, when you create new FS threads with the same items, solicit offers and get similar responses and observations as you have, flags go up unfortunately. It's the nature of the beast.

I can't speak to your "spasmodic" comment because I don't know what you were trying to say. But, my feedback and reputation on the drome speaks for itself. I have one of the highest positive feedback counts for a reason, I feel that entitles me to a little flex with my statements since they're relative to the situation.

You can sell whatever you want, it's a free market. Nobody questioned that. I wasn't trying to force you to disclose shipping fees, but point out it needs to be taken into consideration by your interested parties on this thread, all whom reside in the US.

We're not here to argue. It's a fact that disclosing your pricing will increase sales potential. Hopefully, we can both agree on that...

And in an attempt to rectify the situation, I offer this compromise:

I will offer $80.00 US currency, not including s/h, for your Tales #70. That is double what I previously offered and I do feel my previous offer may have been below market value at the time. I paid 40 for my copy and based my offer on that. I should've done more research.

This offer comes with three exceptions:

1) You provide hi-res scans of both covers and the spine. "Great Condition" is a qualifying measure. I would need a quantifiable measure to move forward. Your "great" may not be my "great" and vice versa...

2) You provide a quantifiable measure of grade publicly. I say, with certainty, that's something we all want to know.

3) If I deem the book to grade below my "great", you be willing to let me renegotiate my offer to reflect the grade, upon which you have full right to refuse.

My terms are non-negotiable

EDITS FOR GRAMMATICAL ERRORS

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

The problem with having to set a price is that it scares people away; better to just have people offer what they are willing to pay, sometimes it winds up being MORE than what you're expecting. As a seller myself, I see the logic in not throwing a price out there. I would be interested in buying the complete set of Vol. 3 books myself.

[MrPliggins]

Originally Posted by ***Doo Doo Acureds***

The problem with having to set a price is that it scares people away;

It's apparent from this thread that not setting a price ALSO scares people away. Maybe some kind of rule does need to be set. Perhaps this should be discussed in the questions/comments section rather than a sales thread.

[Powder]

Yeah, I virtually never go for "Make an offer" thread items. I just turn to ebay.

[Sofistocat]

Food for thought, as to the suggestions made by Doo Doo and Pliggens.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51387

[TheMasterTurtle]

It's a mixed lot for me. I sold some items out of my thread and never had prices. I just wanted everyone to see what I had and give a chance before I put it on eBay. I'm Switzerland in this situation

[Red Robin]

Originally Posted by Sofistocat

And in an attempt to rectify the situation, I offer this compromise:

I will offer $80.00 US currency, not including s/h, for your Tales #70. That is double what I previously offered and I do feel my previous offer may have been below market value at the time. I paid 40 for my copy and based my offer on that. I should've done more research.

This offer comes with three exceptions:

1) You provide hi-res scans of both covers and the spine. "Great Condition" is a qualifying measure. I would need a quantifiable measure to move forward. Your "great" may not be my "great" and vice versa...

2) You provide a quantifiable measure of grade publicly. I say, with certainty, that's something we all want to know.

3) If I deem the book to grade below my "great", you be willing to let me renegotiate my offer to reflect the grade, upon which you have full right to refuse.

My terms are non-negotiable

EDITS FOR GRAMMATICAL ERRORS

First of all, thank you for your offer Sofistocat.
Since I decided that I am way too lazy to operate a discussion of forum principles in a thread about book selling, I am going to ebay now.
This is sad because I met a lot of friendly people here and it was fun helping each other to complete each others collections.
If you are still interested, let me know then I will send you the link to the auctions. There you have Hi-res scans and an overview about feedback.
There are two main reasons I'm doing this. The first is that the conditions are set and there is no "do it my way or we have a problem".

The other reason why I'm doing this is obvious. (Not just) This thread-development has taken a non acceptable process.
The sense of this forum-area is simple to me: TMNT-fans getting together and helping each other completing their collections. But this doesn't seem to be the reason why (some) people come to this section.
For example: The thread above me offers a Fugitoid figure. Instead of being able to talk to interested buyers, all the seller has to do is legitimate himself about his item. And the people mauling on him are partially the same who come in this (and so many other) thread, just to drop topic missing one liners.
This permanent lacerating is creating an unbearable condition.
I'm sorry, I'm really not interested about profiling and meatgrinding on each other. But this is a dangerous direction some people are taking this community. And that is beyond all bearing to me and just boring.

So to the admin: You can close this thread.

[Sofistocat]

I found the link. Thank you for the pictures.

Personally, I'll pass. But, I will bump this thread and post the link for ya:

eBay

[inksb]

Woah I had no idea that Tales #70 was valued so high. Good to know since I have a copy. I would love to have the complete run of Vol 3 but I just can't justify the price to complete it.