Let the Hate Flow Through You...

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-09-2015, 07:48 PM

I'm curious, which is the most despised TMNT character ever? Main-ish character, not one-off mutant of the week. We're talking the biggies...

I want to know!

*Powder* · 07-09-2015, 07:50 PM

Does April Fox count? Her, if so.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-09-2015, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Does April Fox count? Her, if so.

I didn't include her because she's a version of April. And in most versions of TMNT, April is not a hated character. Hated portrayal, though, yeah, the Bay film would be walking away with all of the awards. Like, ALL of the awards.

*shuriken* · 07-09-2015, 07:55 PM

Zach. Screw that guy.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-09-2015, 08:00 PM

I think I gotta go with Eric Sachs. That character never deserved to exist in the first place.

Venus never deserved to exist either, but she could have been done much better. No hope at all for Sachs, short of an Utrom exosuit...

*shuriken* · 07-09-2015, 08:04 PM

^^He shoulda been the Shredder in the Bayverse though, since he wasn't he was relegated to Semi-Main-villain but not really... I dunno, I've always liked Fichtner. He was so hammy and it worked IMO. Zach was just an annoying little turd.

*Metalwolf* · 07-09-2015, 08:29 PM

I hate Mr. Ogg. I didn't like how he was 'joking' and laughing and turning the city buildings into various food items.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-09-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I hate Mr. Ogg. I didn't like how he was 'joking' and laughing and turning the city buildings into various food items.

Did he appear more than once? Dimension X weirdo, right?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 07-09-2015, 09:18 PM

Zach, oh GAWDS yes! Such a whiney little putz, and always causing more problems than he helped solve. That said, I will also nominate Timothy/Pulverizer as the "new" Zach.

*victory_angel* · 07-09-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Did he appear more than once? Dimension X weirdo, right?

He appeared only once and he was from Dimention Z.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-10-2015, 01:22 AM

I'd put Timothy cause he's an idiotic moron that deserves to die. But since he's not in the list, Venus is fine by me too. Redundant bimbo.

Shred Head · 07-10-2015, 02:09 AM

This is a hard poll because all these characters are **** but they really didn't do any major damage mostly because the series or movie they appeared in was **** from the start so even if they weren't in it was going to suck anyway. I'll say Cody while Zach was a worse character he was never really in the Fred Wolf cartoon much. Cody on the other hand ruined a great show and was first in line of a whole bunch of terrible characters like Serling. Now that I think about that fake ass C3PO really should be on this list as well.

DevilSpooky · 07-10-2015, 02:34 AM

Carver, a crappy character in a show full of crappy characters, ruined a perfectly crappy show for me...

*Prowler* · 07-10-2015, 03:13 AM

Venus and Eric Sachs were way more dertrimental to the franchise than Zach and Cody have ever been. The average joe has forgotten about those brats.

My vote goes to Eric Sachs. Never thought a character would supplant Venus de Milo in the "hate" department.

*Bry* · 07-10-2015, 07:40 AM

Gotta go with Eric Sacks - a completely pointless character with a lack of any believable motivation and an idiotic "master plan", whose presence was emblematic of everything disastrously wrong with that movie. The major low points are always the ones where they veer the furthest from the source material for no good reason, and that was a pretty rank example. And it was a total waste of William Fichtner.

PangolinFeets · 07-10-2015, 07:53 AM

Eric Sachs definitely.

I honestly don't hate Venus because after giving that show a chance, I feel like she's just the scapegoat for everything that was awful about TNM. She sucks, but she sucks about as much as everything on that show.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-10-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I'd put Timothy cause he's an idiotic moron that deserves to die.

How many people were happy to see the idiot get mutated and cheered at his misery? I am sure there were a few.

My vote is for Venus. Female turtle to try to maintain interest and gain a more of a female following in a dominantly male fandom? It hurt much more than helped. I generally do not care for Shadow and hope she remains exclusive to the black and white comics as she only serves a living plot point to force maturity in Casey Jones. Pimiko is redundant and any trace of her can live on in Karai. Zack, hated the guy since I was a kid. Annoying and in the way. The only thing I hate about my favorite TMNT (1987) episode is his unfortunate inclusion. Carter and Dregg just seem unnecessary and forced to try to maintain interest in a similar vein as Venus and I cant stand them either for the most part. CBS suit creations that messed up a perfect direction.

Klunk1234 · 07-10-2015, 08:56 AM

Venus de Milo, definitely.

*snake* · 07-10-2015, 09:37 AM

Sachs. Venus could've been done right.

*CyberCubed* · 07-10-2015, 05:50 PM

Zach was only in 7 episodes of the original toon, out of a 193 episode run. He thankfully didn't appear too much to make a difference.

View Poll Results: Who Do We Hate Most?
Cody Jones	2	4.55%
Eric Sachs	14	31.82%
Venus de Milo	16	36.36%
Zach	7	15.91%
Other	5	11.36%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

07-09-2015, 07:48 PM	#1
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Let the Hate Flow Through You... I'm curious, which is the most despised TMNT character ever? Main-ish character, not one-off mutant of the week. We're talking the biggies... I want to know! __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

07-09-2015, 07:55 PM	#4
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Zach. Screw that guy. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

07-09-2015, 08:00 PM	#5
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I think I gotta go with Eric Sachs. That character never deserved to exist in the first place. Venus never deserved to exist either, but she could have been done much better. No hope at all for Sachs, short of an Utrom exosuit... __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

07-09-2015, 08:04 PM	#6
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	^^He shoulda been the Shredder in the Bayverse though, since he wasn't he was relegated to Semi-Main-villain but not really... I dunno, I've always liked Fichtner. He was so hammy and it worked IMO. Zach was just an annoying little turd. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

07-09-2015, 07:50 PM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Does April Fox count? Her, if so.

07-09-2015, 08:29 PM	#7
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	I hate Mr. Ogg. I didn't like how he was 'joking' and laughing and turning the city buildings into various food items.

07-09-2015, 09:18 PM	#9
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Zach, oh GAWDS yes! Such a whiney little putz, and always causing more problems than he helped solve. That said, I will also nominate Timothy/Pulverizer as the "new" Zach. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

07-10-2015, 01:22 AM	#11
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I'd put Timothy cause he's an idiotic moron that deserves to die. But since he's not in the list, Venus is fine by me too. Redundant bimbo.

07-10-2015, 02:09 AM	#12
Shred Head Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 341	This is a hard poll because all these characters are ** but they really didn't do any major damage mostly because the series or movie they appeared in was ** from the start so even if they weren't in it was going to suck anyway. I'll say Cody while Zach was a worse character he was never really in the Fred Wolf cartoon much. Cody on the other hand ruined a great show and was first in line of a whole bunch of terrible characters like Serling. Now that I think about that fake ass C3PO really should be on this list as well. __________________ "Cold steel meets hot flesh! Thats why they call me Slash!"

07-10-2015, 02:34 AM	#13
DevilSpooky Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Portugal Posts: 884	Carver, a crappy character in a show full of crappy characters, ruined a perfectly crappy show for me... __________________ Life at best is bittersweet

07-10-2015, 03:13 AM	#14
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,998	Venus and Eric Sachs were way more dertrimental to the franchise than Zach and Cody have ever been. The average joe has forgotten about those brats. My vote goes to Eric Sachs. Never thought a character would supplant Venus de Milo in the "hate" department.

07-10-2015, 07:40 AM	#15
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	Gotta go with Eric Sacks - a completely pointless character with a lack of any believable motivation and an idiotic "master plan", whose presence was emblematic of everything disastrously wrong with that movie. The major low points are always the ones where they veer the furthest from the source material for no good reason, and that was a pretty rank example. And it was a total waste of William Fichtner. __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

07-10-2015, 07:53 AM	#16
PangolinFeets Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,321	Eric Sachs definitely. I honestly don't hate Venus because after giving that show a chance, I feel like she's just the scapegoat for everything that was awful about TNM. She sucks, but she sucks about as much as everything on that show. __________________ http://www.twitter.com/pangolinfeets http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryd...=3&gcat=106360

07-10-2015, 08:56 AM	#18
Klunk1234 Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: With the TMNT Posts: 462	Venus de Milo, definitely.

07-10-2015, 09:37 AM	#19
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Sachs. Venus could've been done right.

07-10-2015, 05:50 PM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,813	Zach was only in 7 episodes of the original toon, out of a 193 episode run. He thankfully didn't appear too much to make a difference.