Do you think Mikey is getting as dumb as Patrick Star?

[Papenbrook]

I watched a commercial concerning Mikey and Patrick Star from Spongebob. They were competing about who is more dumber, and I think it was a tie. With all the mistakes and poor choices that Mikey makes in the recent episodes, is he getting as dumb as Patrick Star?

[CyberCubed]

No. Lock this thread.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think Mikey is getting as dumb as Vice-President Quayle. And THAT'S saying something.

(If you prefer, swap out President Gerald Ford, President George W. Bush, or Vice-President Joe Biden for Quayle.)

[Autbot_Benz]

This post is stupid, Purple Kraken.

[GoldMutant]

This thread I feel is extremely unrequired, but I'm going to quote what I said to turtlesfanforever on the least favorites incarnation thread:

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Without Mikey, the Turtles would fail to storm Dimension X to save Leatherhead, prepare for the Invasion, and rescue the citizens of NY. If it weren't for Mikey, Raph would have had a major meltdown in the Invasion and would do who knows what in the end. If it weren't for Mikey in Parasitca, all four of them would have been possessed and killed by the wasps.

The biggest example I know of is Wrath of Tiger Claw, he did not one, but TWO smart things in that episode. He had a strange idea for looking for Casey with Raph despite being said intelligently and it was him who helped set up the battle with Tiger Claw in the meat area. I get Mikey is an unintelligent doofus in the Nick show, but it should be acknowledged that whenever he does a smart thing, it really works. The problem is him going two steps back every step forward. That's my two cents.

What is holding Mikey back is the writing of the character, but he's shown tons more intelligence where has Patrick has gotten turned into a terrifying being, either smart and enjoys the pain or cruel and unknowing of his destruction. It's impossible to top Patrick's intelligence, Mikey would not go that low at all.

So, no, but needs improvements in writing him instead of the simple comic relief he is, because other incarnations have shown the emotional and creative side to the character.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

This thread I feel is extremely unrequired, but I'm going to quote what I said to turtlesfanforever on the least favorites incarnation thread:



What is holding Mikey back is the writing of the character, but he's shown tons more intelligence where has Patrick has gotten turned into a terrifying being, either smart and enjoys the pain or cruel and unknowing of his destruction. It's impossible to top Patrick's intelligence, Mikey would not go that low at all.

So, no, but needs improvements in writing him instead of the simple comic relief he is, because other incarnations have shown the emotional and creative side to the character.

That's all I needed to know. Thanks.

[TurtleTitan97]

Unnecessary thread. And the answer is no.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

This thread I feel is extremely unrequired, but I'm going to quote what I said to turtlesfanforever on the least favorites incarnation thread:



What is holding Mikey back is the writing of the character, but he's shown tons more intelligence where has Patrick has gotten turned into a terrifying being, either smart and enjoys the pain or cruel and unknowing of his destruction. It's impossible to top Patrick's intelligence, Mikey would not go that low at all.

So, no, but needs improvements in writing him instead of the simple comic relief he is, because other incarnations have shown the emotional and creative side to the character.

^This x 100. Nick Mikey acts on his feelings and instincts and is a bit spacey sometimes due to his lack of focus (which still makes me wonder how a character like his can master the weapon that requires the most focus and concentration), but he's not brain dead like Patrick.

You know, kind of off topic, but this thread made me think of Ed from Ed, Edd, n Eddy. In the beginning he wasn't that stupid. He was more geeky with his love of horror comics than anything else. He became dangerously stupid as the show went on. First season Patrick too. I don't feel he was a brain dead moron in the beginning just like Spongebob didn't feel like a kid. So yeah, Mikey isn't stupid.

[Papenbrook]

This thread is(or was) necessary. Every time I watch the later episodes of the new show, I felt that Mikey was flanderized. He rubbed mutagen on himself even though it was obviously dangerous, he trashed April's old house and didn't take responsibility for it, and he almost doomed New York city if it wasn't for an ass pull. In addition, I think the Nick crew is forced to make Mikey dumber for entertainment values. They even have to do a test to make sure that Mikey isn't too dumb. That is why I felt the need to create this thread.

However, I guess this thread is meaningless now, so lock it.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

They even have to do a test to make sure that Mikey isn't too dumb.

What test?? It was a freaking commercial made for kids to laugh at. There was absolutely no "test" to begin with.

No offense PK, but you were looking WAAAAAY too deep into this.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

What test?? It was a freaking commercial made for kids to laugh at. There was absolutely no "test" to begin with.

No offense PK, but you were looking WAAAAAY too deep into this.

Ciro does a test where he takes out Mikey moments he finds too dumd.

[Powder]

This feels like bait, or just... sheer ridiculousness, but assuming you're serious, it's pretty simple. Hell no. Patrick doesn't register pain a lot of the time, he completely misunderstands most things that are said to him, lacks self awareness, he's (lovably) about as dumb as a person can be before they lose their ability to function. Mikey's just a hyperactive kid.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

This thread is(or was) necessary. Every time I watch the later episodes of the new show, I felt that Mikey was flanderized. He rubbed mutagen on himself even though it was obviously dangerous, he trashed April's old house and didn't take responsibility for it, and he almost doomed New York city if it wasn't for an ass pull. In addition, I think the Nick crew is forced to make Mikey dumber for entertainment values. They even have to do a test to make sure that Mikey isn't too dumb. That is why I felt the need to create this thread.

However, I guess this thread is meaningless now, so lock it.

So everyone's allowed to discuss Mikey on other Nick threads, but if PK creates a thread specifically to discuss Mikey's intelligence (or lack thereof), it's unnecessary?

WTF? I don't see the problem. This strikes me as more than a little unfair.

[Powder]

The problem is in the phrasing. Mikey & Patrick are miles apart, so it's a grand exaggeration to make that comparison, comes off as a joke/troll post. Were the thread titled "Is Michelangelo Becoming Too Dumb?" she'd have been met with a different climate, I imagine.

[BabyTurtles]

No Mikey isn't as dumb as Patrick....cause Patrick is on a whooooooole nother level!

but Mikey is dumb (sorry I love Mikey but I'm not gonna pretend there's nothing wrong)The writers needs to realize that fun and silly doesn't have to equal dumb.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Ninturtle

Ciro does a test where he takes out Mikey moments he finds too dumd.

That isn't what I was talking about at all.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

The problem is in the phrasing. Mikey & Patrick are miles apart, so it's a grand exaggeration to make that comparison, comes off as a joke/troll post. Were the thread titled "Is Michelangelo Becoming Too Dumb?" she'd have been met with a different climate, I imagine.

I guess I'm slightly in the dark, as I have never seen an episode of Spongebob nor do I intend to.

[victory_angel]

The difference between Mikey and Patrick how they react for what they do that is wrong.

Patrick has a series of episodes in Sponge Bob that are known as Patrick is a Prick episodes. In these episodes he is being willfully dumb to the point of being malicious. Sometimes to the point where you wonder whether he really is as dumb as he's trying to be or is he just pretending to be dumb for the sake of being evil.

Yes sometimes he does feel remorse for what he has done, but 9 times out of 10...even when he does acknowledge what he's doing is wrong he doesn't feel any sense of remorse for it.

Mikey on the other hand has a childish outlook and sense of curiosity. But he doesn't really have any malicious intent behind it. Heck he hardly has a malicious bone in his body.

And when he does acknowledge when he does something wrong he tries to make it up. Such as when Raph, Donnie, and Mikey tease Leo in follow the leader and Mikey later tries to make it up to him by offering his comic book.

It's only in the Croaking and in the Battle for New York that he doesn't acknowledge that he did anything wrong.

In the Croaking he destroys the living room of April's family home. And when the others tell him to clean up his mess he decides to run back to New York from home because he feels the others don't appreciate him.

where as in Battle for New York...Mikey was playing with Donnie's chem set and then decides to play with Donnie's retromutagen. He knew Donatello had spent months creating that retromutagen and how important it was. And even when Donnie tried to stop him he doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong. It's only through good fortune and plot convenience that Mikey's tampering worked in their favor. Still Mikey doesn't acknowledge that what he was doing could have been a major set back in their efforts to save humanity.

[IndigoErth]

Patrick is like ten brain cells away from brain dead. Mikey is simply scatter brained and immature.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I guess I'm slightly in the dark, as I have never seen an episode of Spongebob nor do I intend to.

Now I know why this golden child show of theirs still gets so much attention and is on all. the. damn. time. They're still waiting for that last holdout who has somehow, as if by some strange magic, still eluded it.

[neatoman]

To be fair, this seems like something Mikey would say.