Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 18: Mutant Gangland

[Vicky82]

Don Vizioso's gang tracks the Turtles with a bunch of anti-mutant weapons.

The Mutanimals are back.

Why does Raph quit the team?

Why are they trying to hurt Donnie?

The episode is now up on I Tunes.

[Vicky82]

Awesome episode, it was intense. It did feel more of a filler than last weeks episode though.

It looks like Pidgeon Pete won't be returning, I wonder if there's been a problem with his voice actor or IDW told Nick not to use him anymore.

Last week a had a theory (I posted it on Tumblr, not here) that Splinter may be killed off soon because he seemed to help with the turtles fear and weaknesses. In Broken Foot he had to talk to Leo about the bad things about going solo and keeping it a secret. Last week he was helping Raph's fear.

In this episode it looks like Splinter's death is being foreshadowed because he was saying to the turtles that he won't be around for long and he's worried about there weaknesses and still need to mature.

[MarsicornYT]

Yeah, I thought that was an awesome episode. It was kind of a filler, but it still linked back to the City at War plot because they were trying to take over because Shredders 'gone.' Loved Leatherhead's booyakasha at the end. And seeing how this second half of the season is going so far (going really good), if they do kill off Splinter it's going to be even sadder than the last time.

[ToTheNines]

I've been singing "Mutant Gangland" to the tune of Baba O'Riley by The Who all weekend lol. Psyched for 11.

[Mugen_Jin18]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Awesome episode, it was intense. It did feel more of a filler than last weeks episode though.

It looks like Pidgeon Pete won't be returning, I wonder if there's been a problem with his voice actor or IDW told Nick not to use him anymore.

Last week a had a theory (I posted it on Tumblr, not here) that Splinter may be killed off soon because he seemed to help with the turtles fear and weaknesses. In Broken Foot he had to talk to Leo about the bad things about going solo and keeping it a secret. Last week he was helping Raph's fear.

In this episode it looks like Splinter's death is being foreshadowed because he was saying to the turtles that he won't be around for long and he's worried about there weaknesses and still need to mature.

I don't think they will kill Splinter again.

I think Super Shredder kills Karai during their all out war & in season 5 the turtles go on a mystic/spiritual journey to the underworld or somewhere like that, to bring Karai back to life. That's where they meet kavaxas(or however you spell it) in the process. Or maybe April is the one who dies...

[Powder]

Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune! No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent.

It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

[The Happy One]

Originally Posted by Powder

Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune! No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent.

It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

Wow that good?! Now these next two hours will be the worst wait...

Quick question though...did this involve Shredder at all...like did he hire these dudes or is it just like the City at War free for all thing?

[Powder]

That's just my opinion, mind you. I'd hate for someone to get their hopes up only to be disappointed as we may share different tastes. But yeah I have nothing to complain about whatsoever. Mad good.

It's all mafia stuff right now. No sign of Shredder or his affiliates in this episode.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by The Happy One

Wow that good?! Now these next two hours will be the worst wait...

Quick question though...did this involve Shredder at all...like did he hire these dudes or is it just like the City at War free for all thing?

He wasn't in the episode and he didn't hire them. The mafia knew he had disappeared and they are trying to take over New York as well.

[MarsicornYT]

Spoiler:

I wonder if Pigeon Pete actually died or just left the team. The mutanimals seemed pretty sad, but I hope we get a full explanation down the track.

And sorry just wanted to make sure for anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet.

[Vicky82]

The way they said it

"We don't talk about Pigeon Pete"

He probably just left the team but in real life they probably had problems with his voice actor or maybe there been problems between IDW and Nick and IDW didn't want Nick to use him anymore but i'm betting it's problems with his voice actor.

[ctt4lfecw]

So funny, I guess Pidgeon Pete had contract issues lol

[Juanita27]

Why is it Raph can act childish but when Donnie fights fire with fire Splinter reprimands Donnie? I might just be being defensive bc don is my fav

Amd this is at least the second time Splinter brings up Donnie's intelligence (think the other episode was one of the mutagen man one's), which I think is a low blow- he is just a teenager, so just because he is a genius he shouldn't be held to a higher standard...he will make mistakes.....Splinter in turn should have praised him for apologizing to Raph

[TigerClaw]

hah, a pee joke from Mondo Gecko.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

The way they said it

"We don't talk about Pigeon Pete"

He probably just left the team but in real life they probably had problems with his voice actor or maybe there been problems between IDW and Nick and IDW didn't want Nick to use him anymore but i'm betting it's problems with his voice actor.

That's something that can be fixed by getting another voice actor.

[NinjaMan]

Raph with the Rampage Jackson move. Makes me wonder if Pete was killed the way they responded.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

That's something that can be fixed by getting another voice actor.

Yeah but as he was only in 4 episodes and he's not that popular, maybe the right thing to do was write him out of the show.

If it been a character who's been in more episodes and a lot more popular then they probably would have gotten a new voice actor.

They would have to explain the voice change as well.

[Aaronardo]

To quote Donnie from this episode: "That turned out so much better than expected."

Every single joke and plot point worked incredibly well this episode. Not a single dull or groan-worthy moment. The plot was actually quite strong this time around and the characters were all nicely in character, with a healthy dosage of bickering. I don't normally like this humorless Splinter, but he felt necessary for this particular episode.

This honestly felt like an older episode, it was so tightly written and well-done. Without any doubts, best episode of the show since Tale of the Yokai. So happy about that you have no idea. Booyakasha.

[TigerClaw]

It was a good episode, plenty of action, the Mutanimals are back sans Pigeon Pete, that one bad guy that sounds like Stallone.

and Mondo Gecko needed to pee so bad.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

To quote Donnie from this episode: "That turned out so much better than expected."

Every single joke and plot point worked incredibly well this episode. Not a single dull or groan-worthy moment. The plot was actually quite strong this time around and the characters were all nicely in character, with a healthy dosage of bickering. I don't normally like this humorless Splinter, but he felt necessary for this particular episode.

This honestly felt like an older episode, it was so tightly written and well-done. Without any doubts, best episode of the show since Tale of the Yokai. So happy about that you have no idea. Booyakasha.

Indeed. I also like how the violence doesn't feel so watered down here. It actually looks like the turtles are down for killing these guys.