Eyes or no?

TilasTrinity · 03-18-2004, 02:02 PM

Just outa curiosity here, which do you like better and why? The TMNT with their eyes showing (I think they all had brown eyes) or just the plain white Batman-esque type?

Orochi Chimera · 03-18-2004, 02:23 PM

I like both ways. It depends. For the original cartoon the way their eyes were suited the style fine. Same goes for the new cartoon. I think it all depends on the drawing style.

**Karpo_007** · 03-18-2004, 02:55 PM

Original style, white eyes while wearing masks.

Relay · 03-18-2004, 05:37 PM

They just look badass when it's just the white showing.

~~Jarrah White~~ · 03-18-2004, 05:39 PM

No pupiles

Psycho Andy · 03-18-2004, 09:11 PM

The interesting thing about taking away the turtles' eyeballs is that they lose some facial expressions.

Think about it - Without eyeballs, they can't roll their eyes, look over to the side without turning their heads, or become cross-eyed when smelling something nasty.

Regardless, I agree that the turtles do indeed look better without any pupils.

**Kali** · 03-19-2004, 09:45 AM

In the Mirage comics and new cartoon, the no-pupils style works very well. Gives that dark/mysterious style.

With the old cartoon/Archie comics, the eyes give a little more of friendly look.

But for my own art, I draw the eyes. Eyes are a very important part, if not *the* most important part of facial expressions. I find it easier to express these emotions and thoughts with the pupils there.

I wish that I had the skill of the show's animators, who are able to do wonderful expressions without the pupils. That means they have to over exaggerate a little, but the effect it worth it, I think.

*Raven* · 03-19-2004, 04:22 PM

no eyes, i dont know why, theyy just look cooler that way.

*Taloniss* · 03-19-2004, 06:06 PM

No eyes, it adds mystery to them.

Tigershard · 03-19-2004, 09:36 PM

When I started watching the new toon, the white eyes really bothered me, but now I actually like it. Did anyone notice in the episode "The King", when Raph had his mask off, his eyes were the color in his profile, brown. I wonder what makes their eyes white?

Psycho Andy · 03-19-2004, 10:10 PM

The turtles actually just constantly have their eyes rolled into the backs of their heads, while wearing the masks.

...and if you believe that, i've got some nice desert real estate in Florida to sell you.

~~Jarrah White~~ · 03-19-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigershard

When I started watching the new toon, the white eyes really bothered me, but now I actually like it. Did anyone notice in the episode "The King", when Raph had his mask off, his eyes were the color in his profile, brown. I wonder what makes their eyes white?

It's something to be with their masks, something in their headband covers their pupiles. Probably something Donatello designed, though I bet Splinter would kick their arses if they were more concerned about fashion and less concerned about their ninja training.

*Buslady* · 03-19-2004, 11:33 PM

I like them as they are, with masks no eyes. without mask you see eyes.

*Taloniss* · 03-20-2004, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Andy

The turtles actually just constantly have their eyes rolled into the backs of their heads, while wearing the masks.

...and if you believe that, i've got some nice desert real estate in Florida to sell you.

How much?

*Whitewolf89* · 03-20-2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White

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Originally Posted by Tigershard

When I started watching the new toon, the white eyes really bothered me, but now I actually like it. Did anyone notice in the episode "The King", when Raph had his mask off, his eyes were the color in his profile, brown. I wonder what makes their eyes white?

It's something to be with their masks, something in their headband covers their pupiles. Probably something Donatello designed, though I bet Splinter would kick their arses if they were more concerned about fashion and less concerned about their ninja training.

It's probably something like mesh. And the TMNT and Batman aren't the only cartoon/comic book characters that were masks with eye-holes like this. The two feline vigilantes/fighter jocks from my one of my fave cartoons of the early '90s, Razor and T-Bone, of the animated series, "SWAT Kats, The Radical Squadron", had the same sort of eye-holes on the black, hood-like bandanna masks thay they wore under their flight-helmets. You couldn't see their eyes when they were wearing them, but when they weren't doing the vigilante-thing and running around in their jet, the Turbokat, they worked as ordinary garage mechanics called Jake Clawson and Chance Furlong. When they were in THOSE personas, they didn't wear the masks, and you could see their eyes.

Krangfan · 03-21-2004, 06:20 AM

It's gotta be eyes for me all the way! But I think it's cool that when they take off the mask, you can see their eyes (and I'm also glad they used real eyes in the movies

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turtlelover · 03-22-2004, 07:38 AM

yeah i say eyes too the more realistic ones

LAXtitan99 · 03-22-2004, 10:51 AM

White eyes with no pupils are so much cooler. Makes the turtles look so much more bad ass!

The pupils work well for like the turtle toddlers though since they are suppose to be cute.

*Stone Ill* · 03-22-2004, 11:00 AM

There is no 'mesh' in the mask.

If you look at the episode 'Reflections' of the New Toon, you can clearly see that they are just regular holes.

Shreddette · 03-22-2004, 01:48 PM

I prefer pupils. I think that no pupils is good for say, a bad guy. Not good guys. No pupils looks to me like there's no soul, and they sort of lose expression. With pupils you can make them shrink or get bigger for emotional effect, and dart around the room.... the way they are now makes it look like they're always facing forwards.
Of course it's just my personal preference. No pupils is ok, but if I were the one creating the characters, I'd save the non-pupils for the really evil bad guys.

I loved the old shredder for his expressive eyes, too. I also prefer the way the old toon was drawn in general.

View Poll Results: What looks better?
Turtles with their pupils showing	16	34.04%
Plain White Eyes	31	65.96%
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03-18-2004, 02:02 PM	#1
TilasTrinity Thug Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Signpost Forest Posts: 54	Eyes or no? Just outa curiosity here, which do you like better and why? The TMNT with their eyes showing (I think they all had brown eyes) or just the plain white Batman-esque type? __________________ What do you mean I'm "Obsessed with Chao"?

03-18-2004, 09:11 PM	#6
Psycho Andy Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Just outside Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 25	The interesting thing about taking away the turtles' eyeballs is that they lose some facial expressions. Think about it - Without eyeballs, they can't roll their eyes, look over to the side without turning their heads, or become cross-eyed when smelling something nasty. Regardless, I agree that the turtles do indeed look better without any pupils. __________________ -Psycho Andy! Check out Psycho Andy's Website Extravaganza! And read Hawk and Croc: Heroes YOU can relate to! It's good for you.

03-19-2004, 04:22 PM	#8
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	no eyes, i dont know why, theyy just look cooler that way. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

03-19-2004, 10:10 PM	#11
Psycho Andy Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Just outside Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 25	The turtles actually just constantly have their eyes rolled into the backs of their heads, while wearing the masks. ...and if you believe that, i've got some nice desert real estate in Florida to sell you. __________________ -Psycho Andy! Check out Psycho Andy's Website Extravaganza! And read Hawk and Croc: Heroes YOU can relate to! It's good for you.

03-18-2004, 02:23 PM	#2
Orochi Chimera Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,289	I like both ways. It depends. For the original cartoon the way their eyes were suited the style fine. Same goes for the new cartoon. I think it all depends on the drawing style.

03-18-2004, 02:55 PM	#3
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Original style, white eyes while wearing masks.

03-18-2004, 05:37 PM	#4
Relay Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cacalacky Posts: 400	They just look badass when it's just the white showing.

03-18-2004, 05:39 PM	#5
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	No pupiles

03-19-2004, 09:45 AM	#7
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	In the Mirage comics and new cartoon, the no-pupils style works very well. Gives that dark/mysterious style. With the old cartoon/Archie comics, the eyes give a little more of friendly look. But for my own art, I draw the eyes. Eyes are a very important part, if not the most important part of facial expressions. I find it easier to express these emotions and thoughts with the pupils there. I wish that I had the skill of the show's animators, who are able to do wonderful expressions without the pupils. That means they have to over exaggerate a little, but the effect it worth it, I think.

03-19-2004, 06:06 PM	#9
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	No eyes, it adds mystery to them.

03-19-2004, 09:36 PM	#10
Tigershard Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 469	When I started watching the new toon, the white eyes really bothered me, but now I actually like it. Did anyone notice in the episode "The King", when Raph had his mask off, his eyes were the color in his profile, brown. I wonder what makes their eyes white?

03-19-2004, 11:33 PM	#13
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	I like them as they are, with masks no eyes. without mask you see eyes. __________________

03-21-2004, 06:20 AM	#16
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	It's gotta be eyes for me all the way! But I think it's cool that when they take off the mask, you can see their eyes (and I'm also glad they used real eyes in the movies ) __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

03-22-2004, 07:38 AM	#17
turtlelover Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 23	yeah i say eyes too the more realistic ones

03-22-2004, 10:51 AM	#18
LAXtitan99 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Clemson, SC - Franklin Lakes, NJ Posts: 284	White eyes with no pupils are so much cooler. Makes the turtles look so much more bad ass! The pupils work well for like the turtle toddlers though since they are suppose to be cute.

03-22-2004, 11:00 AM	#19
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	There is no 'mesh' in the mask. If you look at the episode 'Reflections' of the New Toon, you can clearly see that they are just regular holes.

03-22-2004, 01:48 PM	#20
Shreddette Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chained to Shredders Bed Posts: 402	I prefer pupils. I think that no pupils is good for say, a bad guy. Not good guys. No pupils looks to me like there's no soul, and they sort of lose expression. With pupils you can make them shrink or get bigger for emotional effect, and dart around the room.... the way they are now makes it look like they're always facing forwards. Of course it's just my personal preference. No pupils is ok, but if I were the one creating the characters, I'd save the non-pupils for the really evil bad guys. I loved the old shredder for his expressive eyes, too. I also prefer the way the old toon was drawn in general.