Michael Bay Says "We're Not" Making The Turtles Aliens & That Its "The Ooze" - Page 7

sgtfbomb · 04-29-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Hopefully the whole alien script was rewritten.

In the leaked script, their alien origins really was only a small chunk of the script. That's not to say it wasn't a major element in the script. It just really only has bearing on some of the dialogue and the epilogue. They could still go to Dimension X like they did; but this time, they wouldn't find out they born there. In fact, it really felt thrown in.

Granted, it's quite possible that a lot has changed, and that's not in the slightest bit unordinary.

**Venom** · 04-30-2013, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Now he better confirm Shredder is Japanese and not Will Arnett.

In all fairness, Saki's only truly been Japanese in the comics.

Even James Saito is American!

**Jester** · 04-30-2013, 01:23 AM

WHAT!!!!!

My child hood is a lie!

Next you'll tell me most of the Shredder voice actors were BLACK!

Bob · 04-30-2013, 11:06 AM

Another reason why I think the script has gone through some major rewrites is because we haven’t heard anything about Casey. In the leaked script Casey was pretty much the main character. They wouldn’t leave it this late in the game to announce who’s playing the main lead. My guess is April is now the lead. Casey is probably still in it, but his role is now smaller. In all honesty, though, I don’t know what to think. Michael Bay’s recent comments have just confused me that much more. I still think Will Arnett is playing Colonel Schrader.

*Xav* · 04-30-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

WHAT!!!!!

My child hood is a lie!

Next you'll tell me most of the Shredder voice actors were BLACK!

No most of them were white.

**Jester** · 04-30-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

No most of them were white.

Are you sure?
James Avery, Dorian Harewood, and Kevin Michael Richardson are all black.
Jim Cummings and Townsend Coleman barely count because they only did him a few episodes. I'm not sure about some of the others like Scottie Ray (4Kids Shredder) or David McCharen (Movie Shredder) (Though they very well could be.)

Case is that 2 of the 3 main Shredder voices in the animated series (James "Uncle Phil" Avery, Scottie "Utrom Shredder" Ray, and Kevin Michael Richardson) are large black men. And that is AWESOME! Truly speaks to the world of voice acting.

EDIT: On a side note, how often did Dorian Harewood get tapped to replace James Avery in animated series...first Shredder than War Machine/Jim Rhodes. He should have replaced him as Uncle Phil, that would have been a sight.

*Candy Kappa* · 05-01-2013, 08:56 AM

Wasn't Saito also overdubbed in movie 1?

sgtfbomb · 05-01-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Wasn't Saito also overdubbed in movie 1?

Apart from all the Turtles except Raph (who was both voiced and played by Josh Pais), both Shredder and Master Tatsu were also dubbed.

*chrisdude* · 05-01-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

Apart from all the Turtles except Raph (who was both voiced and played by Josh Pais), both Shredder and Master Tatsu were also dubbed.

It always looked like Tatsu was dubbed, but the voice seemed to fit him just fine... I didn't think much of it.

*Kendamu* · 05-01-2013, 04:21 PM

I've seen Mr. Obata teach martial arts classes before. The Tatsu voice is nothing like his own voice. Back in 1990 you would've needed subtitles for the guy.

Shreddhead · 05-01-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTron

I can not wait till they reveal that Arnett is playing Schrader, just so I can watch your reactions.

----> in reference to cybercubed.

^ This, I'm saving a bottle of champagne for just that event

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 05-02-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob

If the Turtles aren’t full-on aliens anymore (which I still doubt), then the script would have gone through a (very) heavy rewrite. Reason being, the whole alien reveal was more or less the plot of the film. It just makes you wonder how much it’s been rewritten.

I still hold that losing the dimension X scenes, and splinter's revelation, leaves us with a krang invasion movie with most of the plot intact. Every other scene and event in the script still works.

**Venom** · 05-02-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Scottie Ray (4Kids Shredder) or David McCharen (Movie Shredder) (Though they very well could be.)

Both gents are white, myes. p_o

And for some reason, the 8 year old inside of me still secretly relishes the idea of seeing a live action Technodrome on a 12 foot silver screen!

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 05-03-2013, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

Know what? Michael Bay?

Cast The Rock as Shredder. That would be amazing. No joke.

I think The Rock would fit the role perfectly. He's tan, tall, muscular, just like Shredder. In the original cartoon I think Shredder actually kinda looks like the Rock, specifically when he takes off his mask on the episode "Cowabunga Shredhead" when they're in the pizza parlor. His face kinda looks like The Rock.

And hopefully it is Shredder and not Colonel Schrader.

*The Stryker* · 05-03-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

I think The Rock would fit the role perfectly. He's tan, tall, muscular, just like Shredder. In the original cartoon I think Shredder actually kinda looks like the Rock, specifically when he takes off his mask on the episode "Cowabunga Shredhead" when they're in the pizza parlor. His face kinda looks like The Rock.

And hopefully it is Shredder and not Colonel Schrader.

That was my way of thinking.

Plus, if the Turtles are gonna be taller you don't want a tiny little Shredder.

Darth Knuckles · 05-03-2013, 02:57 PM

I'm not surprised by this announcement by Michael Bay really. I was shocked by the fans response to the "alien" comments way back when. First, I wouldn't have liked that idea at all either but from what was actually said about the alien/TMNT stuff, I didn't understand the out pour of hate about it (even though I appreciated the TMNT fans around the globe voicing their distaste for a changed origin).

But I always thought Michael Bay may have just read into The Ooze being of alien origin itself (which it is) and that's why he said the turtles were "aliens". And the "Ninja Turtles" title I thought was just because they wanted a unique name for the title of the movie sense there already exists a "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" movie and a "TMNT" movie.

And I'm not a Bay fan by any means (I like Transformers (2007) and the forest battle scene from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)) but I just thought that people were jumping to conclusions on what he said a while back.

*chrisdude* · 05-03-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Knuckles

I'm not surprised by this announcement by Michael Bay really. I was shocked by the fans response to the "alien" comments way back when. First, I wouldn't have liked that idea at all either but from what was actually said about the alien/TMNT stuff, I didn't understand the out pour of hate about it (even though I appreciated the TMNT fans around the globe voicing their distaste for a changed origin).

But I always thought Michael Bay may have just read into The Ooze being of alien origin itself (which it is) and that's why he said the turtles were "aliens". And the "Ninja Turtles" title I thought was just because they wanted a unique name for the title of the movie sense there already exists a "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" movie and a "TMNT" movie.

And I'm not a Bay fan by any means (I like Transformers (2007) and the forest battle scene from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)) but I just thought that people were jumping to conclusions on what he said a while back.

Well, that was before the script leaked and confirmed that he was totally serious, while stacking new fears on top. This movie has been a PR nightmare. Or wildest dream... So this development isn't proving that we overreacted. But it's showing that they've changed course.

Darth Knuckles · 05-03-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

Well, that was before the script leaked and confirmed that he was totally serious, while stacking new fears on top. This movie has been a PR nightmare. Or wildest dream... So this development isn't proving that we overreacted. But it's showing that they've changed course.

That would be true but are we sure that leaked script was totally real and what was going to actually happen? I mean Michael Bay said he was going to lie about details for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to throw fans off so I just am not convinced that the leaked script is something to worry about.

*chrisdude* · 05-03-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Knuckles

That would be true but are we sure that leaked script was totally real and what was going to actually happen? I mean Michael Bay said he was going to lie about details for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to throw fans off so I just am not convinced that the leaked script is something to worry about.

I guess we don't know. It could have been a throwaway that wasn't seriously considered. And I suppose the whole thing could be written as a fake-out. But it really did exist, and it was 119 pages long.

*Candy Kappa* · 05-03-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

This movie has been a PR nightmare.

on the contrary, all PR is good PR.

I don't think it would have been as much articles and discussion had they not done the Alien "stunt"

04-30-2013, 01:23 AM	#123
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05-03-2013, 02:57 PM	#136
Darth Knuckles Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mutani-Isle Posts: 703	I'm not surprised by this announcement by Michael Bay really. I was shocked by the fans response to the "alien" comments way back when. First, I wouldn't have liked that idea at all either but from what was actually said about the alien/TMNT stuff, I didn't understand the out pour of hate about it (even though I appreciated the TMNT fans around the globe voicing their distaste for a changed origin). But I always thought Michael Bay may have just read into The Ooze being of alien origin itself (which it is) and that's why he said the turtles were "aliens". And the "Ninja Turtles" title I thought was just because they wanted a unique name for the title of the movie sense there already exists a "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" movie and a "TMNT" movie. And I'm not a Bay fan by any means (I like Transformers (2007) and the forest battle scene from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)) but I just thought that people were jumping to conclusions on what he said a while back. __________________ "Shredder, what have you done!?!" - Tiger Claw (Annihilation: Earth!)

04-30-2013, 11:06 AM	#124
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	Another reason why I think the script has gone through some major rewrites is because we haven’t heard anything about Casey. In the leaked script Casey was pretty much the main character. They wouldn’t leave it this late in the game to announce who’s playing the main lead. My guess is April is now the lead. Casey is probably still in it, but his role is now smaller. In all honesty, though, I don’t know what to think. Michael Bay’s recent comments have just confused me that much more. I still think Will Arnett is playing Colonel Schrader.

05-01-2013, 04:21 PM	#130
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	I've seen Mr. Obata teach martial arts classes before. The Tatsu voice is nothing like his own voice. Back in 1990 you would've needed subtitles for the guy.