Who is your favorite TMNT.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

Though light-hearted overall, Mikey isn't immune to depression, which in his case usually comes from their separation from the human world. He'd love nothing more than to be able to walk the city streets and socialize with all the people he came into contact with, but he can't. He also probably feels the strongest guilt for the people he and his brothers kill, self defense or not, and occasionally this will hit home. He's also sensitive to negative comments from his brothers, whose opinions he values very highly. Whatever's making Mike feel down, he'll usually go hide himself somewhere to be sad about it, worrying that his brothers may think differently of him if they ever saw him this way... perhaps then his peacemaking skills wouldn't be as effective?

Just like sadness, Mikey shows outward anger sparingly. When he does get visibly angry, it's rather scary because you know there's enough built up that he can't conceal it any more. In family situations Mike's anger is the scary silent type... in terms of enemies (say, a ninja jumps out of nowhere and kills Don) he's more liable to go into a Raph-like rage, but it would take a severe hurt to do that, probably related to an injury to his family (as evidenced by the example), to which he's fiercely loyal.

While he enjoys training enough, after a while Mikey gets bored with it and goes off to do something fun. These will include video games, reading (comic books or whatever books they've collected over the years... they're all great to lose himself in), or even art. It's one of those far-flung dreams of his to one day draw comic books, or even write a best-selling novel. He's got natural talent in the martial arts, and if he had the drive or focus to surpass Leonardo he would most likely be able to do it... but he doesn't place much importance on being the "best," perferring to have fun with life. And while he's never even thought about it, his rising to the position of top fighter would probably change his relationship with Leonardo to be pretty uncomfortable, and he would regret it once he got there.

As for Leo, Mikey looks up to him as a big brother and shining example. Of course he believes Leo could stand to lighten up a lot, but he respects him for what he does for the family. He's also able to bring out a little bit of Leo's fun side, which he enjoys doing. Leo appreciates Mike for his peacemaker personality, and doesn't underestimate his skill like Don or Raph might on occasion - good especially for impromptu battle plans. He sees Mikey's potential and wishes he'd work harder to achieve it, but if Mikey ever surpassed him he honestly wouldn't know how to react.

Mikey feels like he knows Don the least, mainly because Don likes to spend a lot of time by himself and this doesn't compute to Mike's social-butterfly brain. They can have fun together easily enough, but sometimes Mikey feels like he just doesn't know Don well enough, like they think on totally different planes. Don, on the other hand, loves spending time with Mikey... though he does get annoyed whenever his "alone time" is disrupted. He also wishes Mikey would apply himself to something a little bit more, not seeing as much value in his younger brother's sketches and writings as Mikey himself does. (could be the left-brainedness in him?)[/color].

wow Masked Ninja you and I must be on the same brain waves or something because you have basically described the Michaelangelo that I like and what characteristics I would to see him display. i have to say that even though I like Michaelangelo I have always felt a little dissaticfied with his representation. I mean I see certain indepth characteristics that he has in the new toon (and the old toon) but for me the writters have always fell shy of ever delving into them and making him more three-demintional and have always choose to emblish his more silly or hyper-active side.

I guess when you like a character but they are not meeting your wants exaclty as a fan you tend to take what is hinted at in the show and then develop them in your imagination to what you feel is more true to that character. The Michaelangelo in my immagination is a bit diffrent in my head that what is shown on screen, and you have basically mentioned every single one of them. His multi-faceted emotions and his occasinal depression on not going out in the real world, his relationships his brothers. his prowess and potentical as a warrior and his scarey silent anger (that floored me when you mentioned that) and his artistic inclinations, to how his brother percive him (Leo's apprication for Mikey's thoughts and skills) and his closeness to Raph. Its almost like you looked into my head and took my imagined Michaelangelo!

Although in my head I imagine Mikey while angry being able to delever a verbal smack down on some one and being able to to word something in just such a way that can really cut and devistate you because he hits the truth. And only says things when he really means it and is very hard to win an agrument with because his bouts of anger are more of the rightous "How dare you!!" kind of anger when he feels he's been trully wronged.

However I do think I want to challenge you on one thing. I don't think Michaelangelo is nessacarely holding back his potentical just to not compete or usurp Leonardo's postition in the team. i think he just looks up to him to much to even try. Also I think Leonardo would have no problem if Michaelangelo became as good as him. I think Leonardo is confident in him self enough not to feel threatened by Michaelangelo and his talents. In fact I think if he Mikey did become as good as him I think Leo would appricate having some one to spar with him on his own skill level. I draw this conclusion from Grudge match because he was the only one who seemed uneffected by Mikey's boasting and actually helped him defend his title as Battle Nexus champion (which was something he hinself was in run for as well). I just enjoy Michaelangelo and Leonardo pairings since they seem to get along so well. Like in "Nobody's Fool.

. The one thing I must ask about is Mike's relationship with Don. Those two spend a lot of time together in most of the TMNT mediums. I definitely get that Mike doesn't get Don sometimes, finding him distant. But they definitely seem to have a good rapport, although I can imagine that Don might get more out of their relationship in terms of emotional connection. Mike is so friendly that everyone feels loved by him, and even Don needs love, sometimes. But they do have some things in common--they are less interested in training, they are less confrontational and egotistical, and they are peacemakers. I can see them understanding each other in that way.

I have to agree on Masked Ninja on the whole Donatello and Mikey thing. I don't know why but Mikey and Donatello as a pair just seems so out of place and forced. Like they hang or are stuck with each other because Leo and Raph have their thing between them going on. Don and Mikey are my least favorite pairing and it seems to the most likely paring in the movies and new toon. And I just not feeling their rapport. I also get the feeling that Don gets the most exasperated by Mikey and has the least amount of tolrance.

I think Mike and Raph were the best of friends when they were younger. Then Raph got more depressed and angry, and he also started seeking more power. This lead to Raph's conflicts with Leo, but also to his closeness with Leo (shown especially in the movies and new toon). So Mike settled more for Don's companionship. I think that Mike misses Raph and wishes they could just have fun together again, but Raph is focused on Leo now. They still have good times, but I don't think they get each other quite as much when Raph is competing with Leo.

I've thought this too as well. I think Mikey and Raph had a closer relationship when they where younger than what they do now. And I think the competiveness between Leo and Raph is the reason for it ad that in a sence Raph has choosen Leonardo's company over his as a result. In fact in later seasons Raph and Mikey never seem to get along all that well any more. I think the reason for this is that Raphael has changed and Mikey hasn't, and settled for Donatello's company by default. i wonder if thats the reason Mikey is more in Raphael's face than what he used to be, you know trying to get his attention again. I also wondr if Mikey feels in a sence that Casey stole Raph away from him, since they have so much in common. I don't to much evidence of this but Raph did apear to concebtrate on Casey than Mikey when he showed up. I know that Raph and Mikey have a closer friendship in the mirage comics and hung alot but Raph kind of ditches Mikey for Casey after he shows up. Was there any hints of jealously on Mikey's part when Casey showed up and too Raph's attention away?

heretic888 I'll get back to you when I have a chance I few things to say about what you posted.