Am I the only one who thinks these were two of the worst episodes of the OT? - Page 3

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 09-06-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not at all. I first got into the OT in middle school, and by then, my English class (I was in a gifted student program class) actually read Ten Little Indians, one of the Agatha Christie novels. When I saw April's aunt, I knew EXACTLY what they were parodying! And that was a really fun episode, too- especially the turtles making the TV commercial t o lure the Mob guys into their trap. That was just hilarious. (And is it weird that I still remember that goofy jingle??!!)

I thought Sherlock Holmes had been a real person when watching "Elementary, My Dear Turtle".

*CyberCubed* · 09-06-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

The only problem I ever had with that episode was that since they were never human to begin with, the anti-mutagen wouldn't "revert" them BACK to humans, it would just complete the change that the original mutagen started by turning them half-human in the first place!

I don't think the formula was perfected. They use anti-mutagen in the other episode, "Michaelangelo's birthday" but it turned the Turtles into balloon-sized floats instead.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-06-2013, 07:40 PM

Yeah, I don't think Krang EVER perfected it- every time they used it, it did something different- just like the mutagen in the swamp water turned Shredder into a toddler. For a genius scientist, Krang really wasn't very good at chemistry....

ctt4lfecw · 09-07-2013, 08:56 PM

Sorry, nothing is worse than Mr. Ogg. I wanted to blow my brains out.

*ssjup81* · 09-07-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

I hated the Usagi Yojimbo ones, because they depicted him as a complete moron.

I disagree about Usagi here. If anything, he was depicted as a character being tossed into a world with things that would definitely be unknown to him. Different era, dimension, and time period. IIRC, his dimension was set I Feudal Era Japan.

*Refractive Reflections* · 09-08-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yeah, I don't think Krang EVER perfected it- every time they used it, it did something different- just like the mutagen in the swamp water turned Shredder into a toddler. For a genius scientist, Krang really wasn't very good at chemistry....

I just assumed that Krang was able to perfect it when he was at Dimension X, but that the Dimension X mutagen was highly unstable under the conditions on Earth.

*Shark_Blade* · 09-08-2013, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

I disagree about Usagi here. If anything, he was depicted as a character being tossed into a world with things that would definitely be unknown to him. Different era, dimension, and time period. IIRC, his dimension was set I Feudal Era Japan.

Agree. He's kind of a lost soul in the modern city, and I like him. He's in his environment in 2k3, very confident which I like very much.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-08-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JYX

I just assumed that Krang was able to perfect it when he was at Dimension X, but that the Dimension X mutagen was highly unstable under the conditions on Earth.

The mutagen itself was certainly stable enough- although the Red-Sky seasons hint that perhaps it had unforeseen side-effects- but the anti-mutagen certainly wasn't. It had different effects every time it was used. How it could turn Mikey human in one episode, and turn the other three into giant floating "balloons" in another is strange and cause for speculation of why it had such diverse effects. After all, originally, the humanizing effect was INTENDED, while the spray Shredder used on the other three was SUPPOSED to turn them back into ordinary turtles. It failed miserably in that regard. I think it might have been used in another episode as well, but I can't recall off the top of my head. However, I DO remember that Donatello created something similar from the last bit of the original ooze, and that was what was used to return Splinter to normal in "Splinter No More". So apparently, that was the intended effect of anti-mutagen all along. The balloon thing just baffles me.

cammy85 · 09-09-2013, 09:41 AM

Michaelangelo's Birthday aired before The Gang's All Here so it's possible the formula wasn't properly tested yet. The Rock soldiers were rocks and the Turtles were... yeah.

*MrTMNT2012* · 09-09-2013, 10:10 AM

You know how just one episode can kill an entire show? "Shredders Mum" and "Raphael Knocks em dead!" Nearly did it for me......

Thankfully "Leonardo versus Tempestra" brought me back

.... Only to be disappointed again few episodes later!

ryukenden · 09-09-2013, 10:23 AM

Mr. Ogg was definitely the worst in my opinion. To be frank any episode featuring alien warlords, gangsters and mad scientists being the main antagonists were difficult to sit through.

*Prowler* · 09-09-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cammy85

Michaelangelo's Birthday aired before The Gang's All Here so it's possible the formula wasn't properly tested yet. The Rock soldiers were rocks and the Turtles were... yeah.

Oh my, Michelangelo's Birthday... what an awful episode that was. Definitely one of the worst ones of the FW toon.

ryukenden · 09-09-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Oh my, Michelangelo's Birthday... what an awful episode that was. Definitely one of the worst ones of the FW toon.

I do remember that episode did promote the Flush-O-Matic. Mikey taking his brothers' feigning forgetting his birthday too seriously. I can't even describe what Leo, Raph and Don got turned into only to be cured by Splinter's "moth balls". Though I did find Rocksteady and Bebop on tricycles kind of funny.

cammy85 · 09-09-2013, 03:31 PM

That episode was stupid but I loved the fact that Michaelangelo thwarted Shredder himself with a little help from Splinter.

09-12-2013, 10:51 AM

I don't like episode 'The case of the hot kimono', i can imagine it being at my buttom five list of ot episodes. However i do like 'New York's Shiniest'. I think REX-1 was a humorous character.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-12-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yeah, I don't think Krang EVER perfected it- every time they used it, it did something different- just like the mutagen in the swamp water turned Shredder into a toddler. For a genius scientist, Krang really wasn't very good at chemistry....

That's because Mutagen in its perfect form exists only in the Neutrino Kingdom in the form of the Holy Mutastones!!!

*CyberCubed* · 09-12-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

You know how just one episode can kill an entire show? "Shredders Mum" and "Raphael Knocks em dead!" Nearly did it for me......er!

Shredder's Mother was an excellent episode, and one of the best episodes of the series. What exactly is your problem with a comedy series?

That episode also had a fantastic plot and good action too.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 09-12-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

You know how just one episode can kill an entire show? "Shredders Mum" and "Raphael Knocks em dead!" Nearly did it for me......

Thankfully "Leonardo versus Tempestra" brought me back

.... Only to be disappointed again few episodes later!

I agree with you on the others, but I liked "Shredder's Mom"; she proved to be more clever than her son!

*Prowler* · 09-12-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

I agree with you on the others, but I liked "Shredder's Mom"; she proved to be more clever than her son!

What I wonder is how didn't Shredder's younger brother become a criminal like his older brother and his mother.

*CyberCubed* · 09-12-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

What I wonder is how didn't Shredder's younger brother become a criminal like his older brother and his mother.

They may not have all lived together. Shredder stayed in Japan until he followed Yoshi to America, but his brother may have lived in the U.S. after a young age where he became a police officer.

09-06-2013, 07:40 PM	#43
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Yeah, I don't think Krang EVER perfected it- every time they used it, it did something different- just like the mutagen in the swamp water turned Shredder into a toddler. For a genius scientist, Krang really wasn't very good at chemistry.... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

09-09-2013, 10:10 AM	#50
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	You know how just one episode can kill an entire show? "Shredders Mum" and "Raphael Knocks em dead!" Nearly did it for me...... Thankfully "Leonardo versus Tempestra" brought me back .... Only to be disappointed again few episodes later! __________________ Fav Quote - 87 Leo: "TURTLES FIGHT WITH HONOUR!" Fav Series - 2012 Nickelodeon Fav Game - Out of the Shadows Fav Comic - IDW Series Fav Movie - Liebesman's TMNT (2014)

09-07-2013, 08:56 PM	#44
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	Sorry, nothing is worse than Mr. Ogg. I wanted to blow my brains out.

09-09-2013, 09:41 AM	#49
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	Michaelangelo's Birthday aired before The Gang's All Here so it's possible the formula wasn't properly tested yet. The Rock soldiers were rocks and the Turtles were... yeah.

09-09-2013, 10:23 AM	#51
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	Mr. Ogg was definitely the worst in my opinion. To be frank any episode featuring alien warlords, gangsters and mad scientists being the main antagonists were difficult to sit through.

09-09-2013, 03:31 PM	#54
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	That episode was stupid but I loved the fact that Michaelangelo thwarted Shredder himself with a little help from Splinter.

09-12-2013, 10:51 AM	#55
shreddinghead Guest Posts: n/a	I don't like episode 'The case of the hot kimono', i can imagine it being at my buttom five list of ot episodes. However i do like 'New York's Shiniest'. I think REX-1 was a humorous character.