Did the backlash cause them to backtrack on aliens Turtles and white Shredder?

[Leolead]

I have this crazy theory, we all know the foot captures the Turtles right? okay what if when the Turtles were pre mutated, Sachs had something to do with their creation/mutation? remember ''That's what your father and i were trying to do, create heroes" and accident happens and the Turtles and Splinter escape, now years later after April first encounters the Turtles, she happens to know Sachs, and she goes to him for answers, and he finally tells her about the Mutagen and the Turtles and everything, now Sachs is aware of the Turtles, what if he sends the Foot after them to finish what he started or to experiment on them, and inspect how the've grown over the years, and he claims they are his property now, basicaly he captures the Turtles because they were his specimens, so.. how'd i do!

[IndigoErth]

I was thinking part of the same of that, that they're taken hostage because those people are trying to recapture them. Treated like frigging escaped animals. That is gonna be sad...

Now if April does goes talking and that's how he comes to locate them, after Leo even threatened her not to say a word, that really sucks of her... Granted we already know she starts telling Whoopie about them, who seems to take her as a crazy person.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leolead

I have this crazy theory, we all know the foot captures the Turtles right? okay what if when the Turtles were pre mutated, Sachs had something to do with their creation/mutation? remember ''That's what your father and i were trying to do, create heroes" and accident happens and the Turtles and Splinter escape, now years later after April first encounters the Turtles, she happens to know Sachs, and she goes to him for answers, and he finally tells her about the Mutagen and the Turtles and everything, now Sachs is aware of the Turtles, what if he sends the Foot after them to finish what he started or to experiment on them, and inspect how the've grown over the years, and he claims they are his property now, basicaly he captures the Turtles because they were his specimens, so.. how'd i do!

I think that something similar might happen to that like he barrows the suit and uses it to capture the turtles to test them for what ever reason(whether its to find out how to create more, get there genes What ever)

I think Eric is the Lacky of Saki, and he is used as Shredder Front man , and Keeps him self hidden as to not draw to much attention to his Clan of Ninja

Eric Used Mercs and joins them with Sakis Ninja and creates a Huge crime syndicate and "task" force to "stop the crime, and control all aspects Government Law and the crime It would be the ultimate Shredder And the whole time Saki is the one in Control of everything

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Leolead

I have this crazy theory, we all know the foot captures the Turtles right? okay what if when the Turtles were pre mutated, Sachs had something to do with their creation/mutation? remember ''That's what your father and i were trying to do, create heroes" and accident happens and the Turtles and Splinter escape, now years later after April first encounters the Turtles, she happens to know Sachs, and she goes to him for answers, and he finally tells her about the Mutagen and the Turtles and everything, now Sachs is aware of the Turtles, what if he sends the Foot after them to finish what he started or to experiment on them, and inspect how the've grown over the years, and he claims they are his property now, basicaly he captures the Turtles because they were his specimens, so.. how'd i do!

That's actually a really good theory. It's something that we haven't really seen before, so I hope it's true.

[Leolead]

I'm getting really hyped for this movie! i'm interested to see what happens with Sachs and The Turtles.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leolead

I'm getting really hyped for this movie! i'm interested to see what happens with Sachs and The Turtles.

I keep Rewatching all the tv spots and trailers and the bts And man IM so excite I cant even express I think everything is going to turn out amazing

They have the character down they are amazing

The CGI is top notch,

I love the designs,

Im loving the flash back Splinter and turtles

I mean Really im get so excited anytime i see anything Guh August 7th can come fast enough(midnight premier) GAH HEHE

[Powder]

No offense but that's not exactly a crazy theory. Anyone who's watched all the trailers & followed the info as we have on this forum has more or less come to that conclusion already.

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I keep Rewatching all the tv spots and trailers and the bts And man IM so excite I cant even express I think everything is going to turn out amazing

They have the character down they are amazing

The CGI is top notch,

I love the designs,

Im loving the flash back Splinter and turtles

I mean Really im get so excited anytime i see anything Guh August 7th can come fast enough(midnight premier) GAH HEHE

What you said, and you know something else that i used to dream seems to be happening! the Turtles and Splinter becoming Mutants in the very begining of the movie, we won't have to wait for flash backs, in the very begining (as evidence in the script) we'll actually witness/see the Turtles become The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!!!

[Leo_Prime]

Now if they can only change those foot soldiers in the movie to look more like this.

[HeroTurtlesFan]

I love that there are lots of people that seem to genuinely think that our little posts here on the forum had the power to make a billion-dollar film company make significant amendments and changes to a multi-million pound production... it's naively sweet.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

William Fitcher seemed to think he was playing Shredder.

And Benedict Cumberbatch seemed to think he wasn't playing Khan in the last Trek movie....

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Please. No studio in their right mind is going to mislead their potential audience about something that would cause negative feedback and harm the financial return. Sachs was definitely Shredder when they started filming and probably still is at some point in the movie.

Ha ha. Not a Star Trek fan eh? JJ Abrams did this MASSIVELY with "Star Trek Into Darkness". Even when directly asked if Cumberbatch was playing Khan, everyone had to say "no, he is playing John Harrison" - it was an attempt to keep the 'surprise' plotpoint a secret.

Misinformation and misdirection is just another tool of marketing these days. Bay has done it himself, of course, with the TF films - often suggesting characters are going to appear who aren't, or we won't see certain things (and then we do)...

I am very surprised - but probably shouldn't be - that when it's 'bad' news we hear everyone takes it as gospel truth, but when it's potentially good/exciting news, everyone is very sceptical/doubting.

What happened to optimism, eh?

Originally Posted by Leolead

I'm getting really hyped for this movie! i'm interested to see what happens with Sachs and The Turtles.

Same.

[Radical Raph]

Now if only we could get them to fire Johnny Knoxville...

[NinjaPug]

I don't think it's accurate to compare the Khan/Cumberbatch situation to the Shredder/Fichtner situation.

The Fichtner situation is different in that leading people to believe he was playing Shredder would (and did) cause a huge negative backlash based on the race change. Why would you even want people to believe that if it was never the case? What twist are they hiding by saying Saki is Shredder and Sachs isn't? Producers are trying to lie about it now so the twist of Sachs becoming Shredder in this movie will be a surprise (even though it won't be).

Where was the negative backlash when they announced he was playing John Harrison? No one believed he wasnt Khan but revealing that didnt turn people off from the movie like Fichtner being Shredder did. There was plenty after the fact because there really was no reason to keep his identity a secret.

[Warboss74]

Let's not kid ourselves about the backlash not having an effect in the aliens situation. Production shut down indefinitely about a month after the comments were made to rework the script.

As for the Oroku Saki or Eric Sachs as the Shredder, let's not forget that Oroku Saki wasn't the Shredder in the Blue Door script either, and we're seeing more and more of that script make the film. (Bulletproof shells, and super strength). I think there's a very good chance that Sachs was originally meant to be the Shredder. He still may be the Shredder for most of the film despite the news that Oroku Saki is in the film.

[Leo656]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of this thing was made up on the fly. I'd be more surprised if it wasn't, frankly.

[Pondslider]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I don't think it's accurate to compare the Khan/Cumberbatch situation to the Shredder/Fichtner situation.

The Fichtner situation is different in that leading people to believe he was playing Shredder would (and did) cause a huge negative backlash based on the race change. Why would you even want people to believe that if it was never the case? What twist are they hiding by saying Saki is Shredder and Sachs isn't? Producers are trying to lie about it now so the twist of Sachs becoming Shredder in this movie will be a surprise (even though it won't be).

Where was the negative backlash when they announced he was playing John Harrison? No one believed he wasnt Khan but revealing that didnt turn people off from the movie like Fichtner being Shredder did. There was plenty after the fact because there really was no reason to keep his identity a secret.

There was a lot of backlash among Star Trek fans at the idea of casting a white guy as Khan.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Pondslider

There was a lot of backlash among Star Trek fans at the idea of casting a white guy as Khan.

But JJ and company weren't promoting Cumberbatch as Khan before the movie was released. People keep saying that the TMNT producers purposely misled fans to believe Fichtner was Shredder.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by HeroTurtlesFan

I love that there are lots of people that seem to genuinely think that our little posts here on the forum had the power to make a billion-dollar film company make significant amendments and changes to a multi-million pound production... it's naively sweet.

You seem to be forgetting the thousands of people on the internet, all over the world, who threw a fit at a large chunk of this films creative decisions. Youtube, Facebook, news sites, you name it. They're everywhere. & like it or not, we, all turtle fans, are the demographic. They have to make SOME effort to appeal to us, otherwise they lose a big portion of their ticket sales. So they threw in an Asian guy. It's not like it took much.

You need a broader scope, brah.

Naively sweet, hmm?

[CyberCubed]

So we saved this film from alien Turtles and white Shredder.

Too bad we didn't save the film from the nostril and humanoid face look of the Turtles. I can deal with Megan Fox and the Turtles wearing clothes....but those damn faces.

[Leo656]

Not since Michael Jackson has anyone alive had such a big problem with noses and nostrils. Was your father a rhinoplastician? Did he drink a lot and beat you?

I can't otherwise imagine why out of all the awful-looking stuff you can nitpick, it's the damn nostrils.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So we saved this film from alien Turtles and white Shredder.

Too bad we didn't save the film from the nostril and humanoid face look of the Turtles. I can deal with Megan Fox and the Turtles wearing clothes....but those damn faces.

yup Real human looking Sarcasm