‘Ninja Turtles’ May Shell-Shock ‘Guardians’ at Box Office (The Wrap Article)

[Vicky82]

So far this year all movies i've seen were a lot better than Transformers 4

My Top 10 so far

1. X-Men: Days of Future Past (10/10)
2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (9/10)
3. Maleficent (7/10)
4. Guardians of the Galaxy (7/10)
5. Godzilla (6.5/10)
6. The Amazing Spiderman 2 (6.0/10)
7. The Lego Movie (6/10)
8. Transformers: Age of Extinction (4/10)
9.
10.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I prefer Loki than Thor anyway.

Loki, Widow, Fury, Coulson and his team are the only consistently interesting things about the MCU period.

[Vicky82]

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#TMNT #TMNTMovie #TMNTFans - its all about the fans-love you all!!! TMNT winning the weekend.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

I had no desire to see Guardians, but because of James Gunn, and knowing it will eventually tie in to the Avengers, I went and saw it. Also, I put myself through 2 Thor movies, and this didn't look as bad. Anyway, I loved GoTG. It's in my opinion, the best Marvel movie to date. It is better than TMNT, but I love TMNT and I still really know nothing about GoTG. So I'm rooting for TMNT to make a ton of money, and hope they will listen to complaints about the movie, make a sequel, that gives us more time, and develops the characters a little more. As much as I don't like Secret of the Ooze, it's like ALL turtles in that movie and barely anyone else, and that's how it should be.

My top 10 for the year so far is:

10. TMNT
9. Neighbors
8. Enemy
7. Edge of Tomorrow
6. Wish I Was Here
5. 22 Jump Street
4. X-Men: Days of Future Past
3. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. GoTG
1. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

[Jose Canseco]

I just went to see the matinee for Planet of the Apes with my roommates and there were a lot more people there than normal, especial considering that school just started back up. My roommates figured that the place was packed because of Guardians but when I asked the cashier she said they were seeing Ninja Turtles and that the tickets were sold out until 6. So 4 or 5 showings had no tickets left. Things are looking hopeful and I'm going to see it again tomorrow!

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

I had no desire to see Guardians, but because of James Gunn, and knowing it will eventually tie in to the Avengers, I went and saw it. Also, I put myself through 2 Thor movies, and this didn't look as bad. Anyway, I loved GoTG. It's in my opinion, the best Marvel movie to date. It is better than TMNT, but I love TMNT and I still really know nothing about GoTG. So I'm rooting for TMNT to make a ton of money, and hope they will listen to complaints about the movie, make a sequel, that gives us more time, and develops the characters a little more. As much as I don't like Secret of the Ooze, it's like ALL turtles in that movie and barely anyone else, and that's how it should be.

My top 10 for the year so far is:

10. TMNT
9. Neighbors
8. Enemy
7. Edge of Tomorrow
6. Wish I Was Here
5. 22 Jump Street
4. X-Men: Days of Future Past
3. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. GoTG
1. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

Great thread dude!! This film was definitely underestimated. And nothing taste better that TMNT taking number one.. knocking GOTG off of it's high horse

I also enjoyed GOTG and I agree it was the best Marvel film I've seen so far. But of course I enjoyed TMNT more. This year TMNT GOTG and POTA were my favorite films. Cant wait for next years blockbusters.

It's nice to see TMNT on top after all these years. Cant wait for that announcement!!
TMNT 2 anyone?

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

i just got home from seeing the movie...

I thought about making this a post mocking everyone claiming this movie was bad before even seeing it, but I'll just give a straight OPINION of the movie, not a review.

I loved this movie from the opening credits until the end credits. I do not need to hear Hamato Yoshi or Oroku Saki for this to be a TMNT movie. The Turtles were fantastic, funny, you are not constantly reminded they're CGI. This movie moves FAST. Unlike the 90's movie which takes place over a week or two, this takes place over a few days, with the chunk of it taking place in one day. There are of course classic villain explaining his scheme moments, and other cheesy moments, but they do NOT ruin this movie.

I was very angry when they cast Megan Fox as April. My opinion of her, is that she's the worst actress in main stream movies. In this movie, she did not miss a beat, and she was very good. She brought a new kind of April, and I have to say I enjoyed her take. Will Arnett was funny, his character actually serves a purpose, he's not just a disposable camera man.

Shredder...Shredder was AWESOME. He had plenty of dialogue, he was not given the opportunities the first movie Shredder had to establish how bad he can be, but he was a BAD MAN. I know it could be nothing, but I can't help but feel they certainly have an opening to explore Shredder and Splinter in a sequel. Their showdown was incredible and I felt immediate tension between them. The way certain things were said, they could inject the back story so many want to hear or see in further movies.

The turtles' personalities are perfect, their look in the actual movie is very good looking, the trailers and posters don't do them justice. Mikey was hilarious. Knoxville did really well as Leo, but sometimes I noticed it was Knoxville, others he blended in. The guy who played Raph was GREAT. Raph is my least favorite turtle, but this guy who played him, aside from Sean Astin, might be the best Raph.

I didn't think the plot was poorly written at all. It does move quick, but they logically move the story along. I know for sure now, the people complaining, or the reviewers who bash this, have agendas. My theater was roaring with laughter and everyone walking out was raving about it. Grown men acting like little kids talking about their favorite parts. The first movie is very special to me, and this movie is right up there. I'll answer any questions if anyone has any.

I agree with every word. I also hope they pace themselves a little more in the sequel. I like Liebesman as a director.. but I kind of want Bay or maybe even Ratner to take over maybe. I kind of got the feeling that Liebesman barley pulled this off. But none the less accomplished what he set out to accomplish. After seeing this movie I am already excited about what TMNT 2 will be like.

And for those of you " TMNT fans " here claiming it is not an " accomplishment " for TMNT to take a number 1 spot in the Box Office... get over it. Your precious Marvel film has taken a back seat to TMNT. It had it's time last week. It's getting it's sequel. This is a TMNT forum.. TMNT is number one. It is something to be happy about.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I prefer Loki than Thor anyway.

Everyone does.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

And for those of you " TMNT fans " here claiming it is not an " accomplishment " for TMNT to take a number 1 spot in the Box Office... get over it. Your precious Marvel film has taken a back seat to TMNT. It had it's time last week. It's getting it's sequel. This is a TMNT forum.. TMNT is number one. It is something to be happy about.

You act as if TMNT beat Gaurdians to the top instead of knocking it off in it's second week. Bare in mind that if the movie had been out a week earlier it wouldn't have beat GOTG.

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by Galactus

You act as if TMNT beat Gaurdians to the top instead of knocking it off in it's second week. Bare in mind that if the movie had been out a week earlier it wouldn't have beat GOTG.

Doesn't matter. It still beat GOTG nonetheless!

Just like when TMNT (2007) beat 300.

[Leo656]

The problem with that logic is... people still talk about "300", sometimes.

Other than, "Hey, remember they did that?", nobody really talks about TMNT 2007. It just kinda came, made some noise for a few minutes, then got promptly swept into the dustbin of history. Not entirely fairly, mind you, but that's what happened.

So, yeah, Big Picture. I'm a "Big Picture" kinda guy.

[MajorViolence]

The potentially amazing turn of events was never that TMNT might defeat GotG's second week. The amazing thing was that GotG was doing so well that it actually had a shot at beating TMNT in its second week. Fortunately for TMNT, it did better than its tracking predicted, and so we got a completely un-amazing outcome.

[Don77]

I don't get it why fans of TMNT want this film to be disaster at box office. Yes, the film isn't good but if it fails at box office. Do you understand how many years we will not see TMNT at big screen again?

[Leo656]

That's fine. The world already has too many bad movies, we don't need more just to re-establish a faded but still semi-relevant brand name.

We've had MORE than our fair share of good-to-great TMNT stuff over the years, and a relatively small amount of bad stuff. If keeping the "brand" alive means diluting the quality of it, then by all means, let it die off before it becomes a (further) parody of itself.

As I've said before, I'm a huge He-Man fan, but I've come to grips with it being a dead franchise. I genuinely don't care if it ever comes back, because if it did, it might be terrible, and I'm perfectly fine going back to what's already been done with it, because almost all of it was good. I wouldn't want them to bring it back just for the hell of it, especially if it was going to be done poorly. I can always watch the old cartoons, etc.

I'll never understand how anyone could love anything so much, that they would gladly swallow more "product" at the expense of any quality. "It's (Brand X), you HAVE to like it!" has never made any sense to me at all, and it's really dangerous thinking.

[The Stryker]

You'd think people's pride was on the line with the way people try undermine the money it's making or pump it up as a triumph.

What really gets me is people who were 'done' with the movie after the first trailer STILL talking about it and the money it will or won't make.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Galactus

You act as if TMNT beat Gaurdians to the top instead of knocking it off in it's second week. Bare in mind that if the movie had been out a week earlier it wouldn't have beat GOTG.

Uh how do you know that? I'm going to use an argument that's been tossed around here...GotG isn't a known name, so if it went up against TMNT last week, how do you know TMNT wouldn't have made $60 million? That's right, you don't know. GotG was up against Lucy and Hercules which flopped. If it was up against TMNT it might have lost due to the high volume of ads by Paramount, and the general name recognition of TMNT.

[pdizzle]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

Uh how do you know that? I'm going to use an argument that's been tossed around here...GotG isn't a known name, so if it went up against TMNT last week, how do you know TMNT wouldn't have made $60 million? That's right, you don't know. GotG was up against Lucy and Hercules which flopped. If it was up against TMNT it might have lost due to the high volume of ads by Paramount, and the general name recognition of TMNT.

This.....and lets not forget that people said it couldnt make the money its making strictly due to it coming out in august. Some people, not all, just cant accept that they were wrong about turtles losing to gaurdians and now that it hasnt you gotta go back and and call out gaurdians first week numbers not realizing gaurdians had no competition. But really that makes it all the better, so let me break it down for ya......bad critic reviews, horrible word of mouth, low rt and metta scores, up against a marvel/disney movie, and comimg out during back to school season ultimatly makes tmnt the bigger success this weekend seeing how it beat ALL odds. and here we are with the actual numbers and facts right in front of us and we still cant accept it for what it is. so I will go ahead and state it for what it is regardless of what people will claim.....gotg had no real competition and when it did it was drowned out, and if you take these two and put them head to head turtles would have still come out on top, even tho it would have been a really close race. Say what you will but the facts are there so quit justifying your presious marvel meltdown and accept it for what it is




edit: oh yea, and one more important thing to note....gaurdianns opened up in over 1000 more theaters than tmnt and yes this does make a slight difference

[Bry]

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

Uh how do you know that? I'm going to use an argument that's been tossed around here...GotG isn't a known name, so if it went up against TMNT did, how do you know TMNT wouldn't have made $60 million? That's right, you don't know. GotG was up against Lucy and Hercules which flopped. If it was up against TMNT it might have lost due to the high volume of ads by Paramount, and the general name recognition of TMNT.

GotG made $30m more in its opening weekend than TMNT's and did rather good numbers this weekend despite the (surprisingly strong) competition. Why do you assume it would have "lost" that fight if they came out on the same week? More likely Guardians would have won by a similar percentage, but they both would have opened lower than they did with the direct competition cannibalizing each others' audiences.

[Hawkeye]

21.3 are the Saturday estimates.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

You'd think people's pride was on the line with the way people try undermine the money it's making or pump it up as a triumph.

What really gets me is people who were 'done' with the movie after the first trailer STILL talking about it and the money it will or won't make.

I'm going to be completely honest here. You guys can choose not to believe me, and if so, whatever, **** you. But anyway, my only interest in this box office race was to see if GotG could really do that well. As someone who just looked into GotG to research this weird new movie Marvel was making, and then suddenly found himself becoming a massive fan as I started reading the comics, I've been terrified that GotG would fail at the box office. Does anyone remember League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, aka LXG? Yeah, I was picturing that, except this time with a property I actually cared about. I've even been buying up GotG merch like mad, spending $120 just to assemble that Groot figure. Why? Because part of my brain was telling me this property was going to bomb, either from being terrible or for being so weird audiences would reject it. And if that happens? There goes the last time you'll ever seen Rocket Raccoon on a lunch box. Anyway, I've been incredibly pleased to see that GotG was not only a fantastic movie, but was well received by both critics and audiences. The idea that this weird little property could not only be a success, but even beat TMNT's opening weekend was something I never even thought possible until the tracking numbers started leaning that way. It's just been incredibly relieving to see my worries that GotG will fade into obscurity melt away. But let's be honest, TMNT beating GotG's second week is as amazing as one race track runner's first lap in a foot race being faster than another runner's third lap. Heck, I'd even say it's not fully fair to compare totals from each film's opening weekend, because TMNT has GotG stealing ticket sales while GotG had no such competition. (Though it's a hell of a lot more fair than comparing GotG's second week to TMNT's opening.) To me, this was never about seeing how poorly TMNT would do, but whether GotG could actually do that well. Yeah sure, I'm not a fan of this new movie and I would have loved to see it bomb and the sequels get cancelled, but I never expected that to happen so I can't say I'm all that upset that it's doing well. I'm just incredibly pleased to see that GotG outdoing TMNT is even up for discussion, even if it's not actually going to happen.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I'm going to be completely honest here. You guys can choose not to believe me, and if so, whatever, **** you. But anyway, my only interest in this box office race was to see if GotG could really do that well. As someone who just looked into GotG to research this weird new movie Marvel was making, and then suddenly found himself becoming a massive fan as I started reading the comics, I've been terrified that GotG would fail at the box office. Does anyone remember League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, aka LXG? Yeah, I was picturing that, except this time with a property I actually cared about. I've even been buying up GotG merch like mad, spending $120 just to assemble that Groot figure. Why? Because part of my brain was telling me this property was going to bomb, either from being terrible or for being so weird audiences would reject it. And if that happens? There goes the last time you'll ever seen Rocket Raccoon on a lunch box. Anyway, I've been incredibly pleased to see that GotG was not only a fantastic movie, but was well received by both critics and audiences. The idea that this weird little property could not only be a success, but even beat TMNT's opening weekend was something I never even thought possible until the tracking numbers started leaning that way. It's just been incredibly relieving to see my worries that GotG will fade into obscurity melt away. But let's be honest, TMNT beating GotG's second week is as amazing as one race track runner's first lap in a foot race being faster than another runner's third lap. Heck, I'd even say it's not fully fair to compare totals from each film's opening weekend, because TMNT has GotG stealing ticket sales while GotG had no such competition. (Though it's a hell of a lot more fair than comparing GotG's second week to TMNT's opening.) To me, this was never about seeing how poorly TMNT would do, but whether GotG could actually do that well. Yeah sure, I'm not a fan of this new movie and I would have loved to see it bomb and the sequels get cancelled, but I never expected that to happen so I can't say I'm all that upset that it's doing well. I'm just incredibly pleased to see that GotG outdoing TMNT is even up for discussion, even if it's not actually going to happen.

If you love GotG so much why discuss it here, go somewhere else. You're just a broken record blabbing offtopic subject nobody cares. This is TMNT's box office were discussing.