Would You Consider Kraang Prime Female?

[Rukitron]

My mind's blown Krang Prime is "male", just assumed he was the mother brain (I know bad pun, sorry)...

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

Ciro never said Kraang Prime was based on Krang

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

So not based on OT Krang.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Which is wrong, its make and based on OT Krang. Ciro said so.

That doesn't make it scripture.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Ciro never said Kraang Prime was based on Krang

He pretty much is for the following reasons:

- Kraang Prime is a warlord from Dimension X

- Lived in the Technodrome (at least in Season 1)

- Has an Android body that resembles the original with the antenna on top

- Has Traag and Granitor as his bodyguards

- Makes deals with Shredder

- Leads an army and now has a personal vendetta against the Turtles


I think you guys are kidding yourselves because while the Kraang are just evil Utroms, Kraang Prime is clearly meant to be THE Krang. They would have never made a leader Kraang if they didn't want the classic Krang in the show

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

He pretty much is for the following reasons:

- Kraang Prime is a warlord from Dimension X

so are the rest of the Kraang
- Lived in the Technodrome (at least in Season 1)
so do the rest of the Kraang
- Has an Android body that resembles the original with the antenna on top
Just the antenna as a homage
- Has Traag and Granitor as his bodyguards
Traage and Granitor were never OT's Krang's bodyguards. Traag lef an army of stone warriors. We haven't seen any yet.
- Makes deals with Shredder
They're the two major villains in the show, regardless they had to team up or cross paths sooner or later
- Leads an army and now has a personal vendetta against the Turtles
an army of invading aliens. what personal vendetta? That's Shredder. These guys are just mad that the turtles defeat them or stand in their way.

I think you guys are kidding yourselves because while the Kraang are just evil Utroms, Kraang Prime is clearly meant to be THE Krang. They would have never made a leader Kraang if they didn't want the classic Krang in the show

Nope. The Kraang are basically 'evil Utroms' and the Utroms never had a leader, unless you consider Mortu to be one. This is Hivemind Queen Bee Kraang. Deal with it.

[NinjaPug]

So you go from saying that Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is Krang to "he pretty much is"

Keep telling yourself that. I'll listen to people who worked on the show when they say they aren't the same character.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

So you go from saying that Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is Krang to "he pretty much is"

Keep telling yourself that. I'll listen to people who worked on the show when they say they aren't the same character.

So you're saying that Ciro and crew brought back every single other major OT character, as well as many minor characters like Mutagen Man, Muckman, etc. who only ever appeared in 1 episode of the original series.....but they're not bringing in "Krang" the second most important and memorable villain of the original show besides Shredder?

Yeah, no. If you notice the Nick show has slowly but surely been bringing back almost all the major or notable characters from the 80's show and toyline. So saying they would ignore Krang of all characters when EVERYONE ELSE is being brought back makes no sense.

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

[NinjaPug]

I'm not saying that. One of the writers said that.

The Kraang is the Nick version of Krang/Utroms mashed together.

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

If they are the same character, their name would at least match? No extra 'a' in the spelling and no 'prime' behind?

They paid homage to OT Krang, but they're not the same character per se. I don't expect Kraang Prime calling Shredder "you bumbling idiot" any time soon.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So you're saying that Ciro and crew brought back every single other major OT character, as well as many minor characters like Mutagen Man, Muckman, etc. who only ever appeared in 1 episode of the original series.....but they're not bringing in "Krang" the second most important and memorable villain of the original show besides Shredder?

Yeah, no. If you notice the Nick show has slowly but surely been bringing back almost all the major or notable characters from the 80's show and toyline. So saying they would ignore Krang of all characters when EVERYONE ELSE is being brought back makes no sense.

That's of course because we have seen Krang already, as Kraang Prime.

Nope. They had two choices in where they could have gone. Krang. Or the Utroms. They choose the Utroms and made them evil, and named them Kraang. And gave them a hivemind queen bee leader. And a sub leader super spy. They can't bring in 'The Krang' cause they already went with the Evil Utroms.

Bringing both in would be as redundant as bringing in Ch'Rell as well.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by evan2000

If they are the same character, their name would at least match? No extra 'a' in the spelling and no 'prime' behind?

They paid homage to OT Krang, but they're not the same character per se. I don't expect Kraang Prime calling Shredder "you bumbling idiot" any time soon.

He who is the one known as Shredder is the kind of idiot known as bumbling.

[CyberCubed]

I'm baffled by what you're getting at, of course the Kraang are based on the Utrom only evil. That's not what I'm debating.

But what I'm saying is why have a leader at all? Kraang Prime exists to be Krang, otherwise we would simply only see Kraang and no "leader" so to speak. The Utroms never had a leader either.

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

He who is the one known as Shredder is the kind of idiot known as bumbling.

You made my day

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm baffled by what you're getting at, of course the Kraang are based on the Utrom only evil. That's not what I'm debating.

But what I'm saying is why have a leader at all? Kraang Prime exists to be Krang, otherwise we would simply only see Kraang and no "leader" so to speak. The Utroms never had a leader either.

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

Didn't Mortu lead the Utroms? Didn't they have some kind of high council or something? Stop the nonsense. They needed some kind of leader. An army doesn't pull an invasion without someone leading the charge and calling the shots. Why not just have the Foot be a bunch of ninjas. No Shredder. Just random army of ninjas without any clear leader.

You also don't need everyone to spell it out for you. The Kraang have all the characteristics of a hive mind race withe KP being the 'Borg Queen'. You don't need some character to be all like 'hey kids at home, these guys kinda remind me of a bee colony, duh-huh-huh'. Not everything has to be spelled out for you.

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Also stop with the "queen bee" nonsense, that's never been stated in the show at all and Ciro confirmed Kraang Prime is male. The fact that you keep trying to pass it off as a female queen is ridiculous and wrong.

Or we could settle with gender being a moot point for aliens from Dimension X with different physics law, and probably different biology characteristics as earth's. Ciro did not confirm KP is male. He only referred KP as a "he" because sometime we also use "he" to refer to animals with unconfirmed gender. Let alone aliens

[CyberCubed]

Kraang Prime is Krang, because Ciro would never not use Krang.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Kraang Prime is Krang, because Ciro would never not use Krang.

Ciro decided to use the Utroms instead. Boo hoo. Plus a Russian Rocksteady that says 'da' and an Asian Hun. Huzzah!

[neatoman]

Here's my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Here's my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Yep. This thread needs to be locked.