TMNT Season 3 Official Info Thread

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

That same problem that I had with it as well. I didn't like voice cast all that much. To me, Mikey was the worst. Nails on a chalkboard, my god. http://i.imgur.com/dWgs2TC.gif

It would such a crime if this nick show can never get to that level of writing because it now has such an amazing voice cast that actually can deliver the lines.

There few times when it can but I feel that this show is holding itself back from character development and story arcs.

This was my biggest problem with the 4kids show too. And I wasn't crazy about the design of the turtles. They are so damn shiny. Just imo.

Well, I keep hearing in interviews that the show is supposed to get darker. And they did show that with the difference in the S1 and S2 finale. I have yet to be really bothered by an episode.
I like these turtles.

Spoiler:

Finger crossed for epic Dark Raph finale that leads into S4.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by evan2000

You drew that? That's absolutely amazing and disturbing at the same time! The turtles seem more... naked than usual!

No...I didn't but I did try to attempt draw the Nick turtles as age 17-20 to see how they look. It looks crappy in comparison.

But looking at that concept art makes me want to see Glen Murakami version of TMNT as long it has the same serious tone of Teen Titans.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I now wonder how this show would've fared on something like Cartoon Network as opposed to Nickelodeon. Do you think the writing style would be different or that the series would be slightly darker or would've been from the get-go? Do you think the show airing wise would've been treated better than Nickelodeon's treatment of the show? Or do you think it probably would've been the same regardless?

I'm betting it would be darker, no doubt about it. It might even have dropped most of the episodic tendencies and plot amnesia and allowed Ciro to do the story stuff he likes, since he seems to be a good story teller when he's not restrained. They'd likely not have as many of the goofy Mikey episodes either, and heavily likely the villains wouldn't be nerfed. But the only gripe I would have had is that they'd possibly try to 'link' it up with their Tk3 'universe,' and I wouldn't be able to tolerate that if they did.

The airing wouldn't be so bad for me since I watch everything online anyway, which bugs me why Ciro or the executives still try the episodic thing, since it's not like in the olden days where if you miss an episode you were crap out of luck if it didn't get rerun. Most people can watch a bunch in a stretch now on their computers, so it's not like they couldn't catch up on the plot once it was underway. Sure it might have been necessary in the first season, but once all major players get established? There is no point to it after that, and the developing story should be the thing to draw in viewers next.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'm betting it would be darker, no doubt about it. It might even have dropped most of the episodic tendencies and plot amnesia and allowed Ciro to do the story stuff he likes, since he seems to be a good story teller when he's not restrained. They'd likely not have as many of the goofy Mikey episodes either, and heavily likely the villains wouldn't be nerfed. But the only gripe I would have had is that they'd possibly try to 'link' it up with their Tk3 'universe,' and I wouldn't be able to tolerate that if they did.

The airing wouldn't be so bad for me since I watch everything online anyway, which bugs me why Ciro or the executives still try the episodic thing, since it's not like in the olden days where if you miss an episode you were crap out of luck if it didn't get rerun. Most people can watch a bunch in a stretch now on their computers, so it's not like they couldn't catch up on the plot once it was underway. Sure it might have been necessary in the first season, but once all major players get established? There is no point to it after that, and the developing story should be the thing to draw in viewers next.

I agree. Particularly with this third season. It's like the writers and producers pretty much forgot the Turtles and Casey are orphans for the time being. And their childhood home is gone, this has to be a very emotional impact on them on top of worrying of Leo would recover from his injuries.

I know it's likely one if not two of them had a good cry off screen. But it would be nicer if we did have a moment where that wasn't all glossed over with the excuse that it's a kids show. Just because it's a kids show doesn't mean the characters are made of stone, they do have emotions, they do get hurt, and they are impacted by the things around them.

[Vicky82]

Some of you seem to forget that Mikey has ADHD/ADD (you need to read up on it. I know someone at work has ADHD, he works hard but sometimes he does make a silly mistake but we know that's expected). So it is expected that Mikey will do silly stuff like running around trashing the living room ect and as Splinter isn't with them, there's no rules.

Someone wrote an interesting article on Mikey on Tumblr and it's a good long read.

http://mysillylittlesoapbox.tumblr.c...restimated-and

Some of you need to stop whining and stop taking it so seriously, it is only a kids show (well it's supposed to be anyway )

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Some of you seem to forget that Mikey has ADHD/ADD (you need to read up on it. I know someone at work has ADHD, he works hard but sometimes he does make a silly mistake but we know that's expected). So it is expected that Mikey will do silly stuff like running around trashing the living room ect and as Splinter isn't with them, there's no rules.

Someone wrote an interesting article on Mikey on Tumblr and it's a good long read.

http://mysillylittlesoapbox.tumblr.c...restimated-and

Some of you need to stop whining and stop taking it so seriously, it is only a kids show (well it's supposed to be anyway )

That's interesting, I never thought Mikey had ADD.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Some of you need to stop whining and stop taking it so seriously, it is only a kids show (well it's supposed to be anyway )

I hate when people tell me to not take a show seriously cause it's a kids show.

Like kids shows can't be written well.

I can enjoy Regular Show, Amazing world of Gumball, and Gravity falls and they are all kid shows...but well written ones.

Gravity falls for example looks super cartooney compared to TMNT yet it has had more character development and continuity than TMNT has had lately. (and has better written females)

If you aren't gonna give me continuity then don't give me a story to follow. Just go with the episodic format.

[CharmedSerenity]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I hate when people tell me to not take a show seriously cause it's a kids show.

Like kids shows can't be written well.

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

If you aren't gonna give me continuity then don't give me a story to follow. Just go with the episodic format.

This! Especially as one of my favorite animated shows from the past couple of years would be Young Justice.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CharmedSerenity

This! Especially as one of my favorite animated shows from the past couple of years would be Young Justice.

Young Justice was awesome even after that crazy timeskip I didn't want it to cancel.

[Mukouno]

... Mikey has ADHD?

[ssjup81]

The only animated show I watch that is literally aimed at kids is this one. I can only assume this is the current style for kids. Episodic style doesn't bother me so much, as long as I'm entertained in some way I guess, but I also like stories with actual conclusions. Hopefully this gets one. At this point, that'd suit me fine.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Mukouno

... Mikey has ADHD?

Yeah, and I think Donnie is supposed to be OCD. Either way, I liked Mikey more for season 2 since they seemed to tone down the ADD thing.

[CharmedSerenity]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Young Justice was awesome even after that crazy timeskip I didn't want it to cancel.

Agreed on both counts.

[Mukouno]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Yeah, and I think Donnie is supposed to be OCD. Either way, I liked Mikey more for season 2 since they seemed to tone down the ADD thing.

Huh. I seriously didn't know that. Makes me kinda regret some things I said.
I'll keep it in mind from now on and before judging some of his actions.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Mukouno

Huh. I seriously didn't know that. Makes me kinda regret some things I said.
I'll keep it in mind from now on and before judging some of his actions.

When I first started watching the show this year I wondered why he was being written in such a way, especially in the ep where they met Falcor the first time and we see that he had a short attention span. Same with the ep where they first introduced the Shellraiser. In the beginning his lack of an attention span is pointed out, which really makes you wonder (for this incarnation anyway) how he was able to master the nunchucks, the weapon out of the four that requires one to have a lot of focus and concentration to use effectively.

[Mukouno]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

When I first started watching the show this year I wondered why he was being written in such a way, especially in the ep where they met Falcor the first time and we see that he had a short attention span. Same with the ep where they first introduced the Shellraiser. In the beginning his lack of an attention span is pointed out, which really makes you wonder (for this incarnation anyway) how he was able to master the nunchucks, the weapon out of the four that requires one to have a lot of focus and concentration to use effectively.

I always thought that's because of his natural talent? At least I think Splinter said something along those lines.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Mukouno

I always thought that's because of his natural talent? At least I think Splinter said something along those lines.

Yeah, but it still takes concentration and focus to master the nunchucks to keep from hitting yourself. I do believe he's a natural, but he still had to learn how to master his primary weapon.

[Chaotix12345]

Originally Posted by Jephael

I'm assuming it's mostly because of the way 4Kids belittled the original cartoon, but then again that's just my theory.

I don't think that's the reason, as Ciro himself has said on multiple occasions that he was more into the Mirage comics originally and only grew an appreciation for the OT later. Based on that, I doubt he'd be the type to be SO offended at a show's treatment of it that he'd leave a TMNT board because a certain TMNT show was mentioned at all.

Also, if there was SO much hate for the 2k3 series in Nick's staff, I doubt they'd have brought in Hun at all. He could've easily been a completely new character.

[ssjup81]

Also, isn't the EPF from the 2k3 series too? Isn't that Bishop character connected to that?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I hate when people tell me to not take a show seriously cause it's a kids show.

Like kids shows can't be written well.

To quote The Mysterious Mr. Enter.

""It's for kids...." This comment has come up so often, and each time I don't respond to it...for several reasons. Number 1 if their asking why I care about a show for kids. Then why the hell do they care about a guy talking about a show for kids, unless they to care about the show for kids.

But back to the topic at hand. For so long people who have brought up this topic I've responded to with nothing but silence, because in most cases it's not a comment that deserves responce. These kind of people don't belong on my channel. It's not that I don't think they'll ever come around, it's because 'It's just for kids' isn't an argument...It's flimsy at best. It boils down to 'This is supposed to be bad, you're wrong for wanting it to be good'; it's not even an excuse for an arguement...'I disagree with you, but I've nothing to say.' What it is is a mantality. You don't change a mentality by coming up with reasons or any of that bull ****, because it's only a bridge that they can cross themselves or be left behind as everyone else does. I can show that childrens entertainment has the same scale quality that adult entertainment does a million different times, and show the great things it can do. But that never works...I don't know, maybe it's because "Courage the Cowardly Dog" and "Hey Arnold" were more widely seen across the age groups...."

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Also, isn't the EPF from the 2k3 series too? Isn't that Bishop character connected to that?

Yeah, and they have had moments that seem like a subtle nod to the 2k3 series or at least the better episodes of the 2k3. Such as how the forms Fake Donnie and Fake Leo take when they attack sort of resemble Leo from the "Darkness within" episode.